The Slaves of New Orleans

Gulf1 ^ | 10/01/05 | Sydney M. Wallace, Ph.D.

[RightWhale]

When the Americas were discovered, slavery migrated with the people to the new world

There is a level of BS here. Slavery, African slavery in particular, began in 1621 in the Virginia Company.

[elbucko]

Didn't they...

Not sure. I'm neither Northern or Southern, but Western.

[elbucko]

Last tie I checked the score, it was.. Yankees 1 - Rebels 0 / HALFTIME

I think the field has changed since 1865. Either the line of scrimmage runs between East and West (Lib vs Con) or the Mason Dixon line is on the US-Mexico Border and we're all "Yankees" now.

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[Carbonsteel]

There is a level of BS here. Slavery, African slavery in particular, began in 1621 in the Virginia Company.

I'm not sure, but I think he is refering to the concept of slavery in general.

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we're all "Yankees" now.

Bite your tongue...

:-)

[Jason_b]

The problem I have with this article is that slaves, by definition, WORK!
This article talks about people who don't work. I'm not sure what they are but they sure aren't slaves. Pets perhaps?
If there are any slaves to be found, I believe it would be most useful to examine the list of taxpayers.
Who other than taxpayers work under the gun for those who have first claim on the first 50% of the labor of the working, and let the working keep what is left? That is slavery. 0.0% to 10% is a reasonable tax to support the functions of limited government. 50% is more than a bad deal, it is a slave tax. Who's crying for me?

[SauronOfMordor]

There is a level of BS here. Slavery, African slavery in particular, began in 1621 in the Virginia Company

Slavery in the American colonies may have started in 1621, but slavery in the new world existed with the first Spanish colony. And the Arabs were enslaving blacks for hundreds of years before 1621, and kept the slave trade going long after slavery ended in the US.

One cute tidbit about the start of slavery in Virginia:

Virginia, Guide to The Old Dominion, WPA Writers' Program, Oxford University Press, NY, 1940, p. 378

"In 1650 there were only 300 negroes in Virginia, about one percent of the population. They weren't slaves any more than the approximately 4,000 white indentured servants working out their loans for passage money to Virginia, and who were granted 50 acres each when freed from their indentures, so they could raise their own tobacco.

Slavery was established in 1654 when Anthony Johnson, Northampton County, convinced the court that he was entitled to the lifetime services of John Casor, a negro. This was the first judicial approval of life servitude, except as punishment for a crime.

But who was Anthony Johnson, winner of this epoch-making decision? Anthony Johnson was a negro himself, one of the original 20 brought to Jamestown (1619) and 'sold' to the colonists. By 1623 he had earned his freedom and by 1651, was prosperous enough to import five 'servants' of his own, for which he received a grant of 250 acres as 'headrights.'

Anthony Johnson ought to be in a 'Book of Firsts.' As the most ambitious of the first 20, he could have been the first negro to set foot on Virginia soil. He was Virginia's first free negro and first to establish a negro community, first negro landowner, first negro slave owner and as the first, white or black, to secure slave status for a servant, he was actually the founder of slavery in Virginia. A remarkable man."

[OldEagle]

"These socialist have looked back into history to see how to continue slavery in America, and in today’s America all the slaves are not all black. "

Is that what Sheets Byrd was talking about?

[reg45]

The slaves of today are worse off than the slaves of 1850. In 1850 their bodies were in chains but their minds were free. Today, their bodies may be free but their minds are in chains.

[Jason_b]

See my other post. Today's slaves are taxpayers.

[Ben Chad]

Well said amigo.

[RightWhale]

Work for hire is a form of slavery. Not total slavery, but a sort of voluntary slavery to a generic master. Buy a house and car, leave your freedom at the gate. Fair trade.

[RightWhale]

'We'll get the beggars off your street and the children off your front steps.'

Cleared out the orphanages and poorhouses. Some prisons, too. Progress, though, by 1841 it was illegal to beat your 'employees' in the New World.

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

Uh Oh! Don't let some Rebel Freepers see that, they think the Republican Party was formed to invade the South.

Well where is the Republican Party strongest today? Proof of what they were up to ..... ;-)

[SaintDismas]

Even if you are "slaving away" on your job, you took it freely, nobody made you, and you own the fruits of your labor (except for taxes-which is getting more slave like I agree) But still, when the confiscatory tax rates go up, so does the underground economy ;) and only in America

[ladyinred]

I wish the GOP would grow some Nuts and start attacking.

Perhaps it would help if members of the GOP would SUPPORT this President and our leaders rather than helping the left tear them down constantly.

I would hope we don't resort to attacking the same way the left does, as I detest their tactics. But it is no help when we carry the ball for them and repeat their lying attacks ourselves.

[RegulatorCountry]

I take exception to the statement that slavery came to America with Europeans. There is ample evidence of slavery here prior to that point. And, before anyone pounces, I do have some Cherokee and Creek ancestry, so it's not as if I stand to gain anything from stating this. Facts are facts, and overly sentimental, positive stereotypes also tend to reinforce negative ones as well.

[RegulatorCountry]

"The situation of enslaved Indians varied among the tribes. In many cases, enslaved captives were adopted into the tribes to replace warriors killed during a raid. Enslaved warriors sometimes endured mutilation or torture that could end in death as part of a grief ritual for relatives slain in battle. Some Indians cut off one foot of their captives to keep them from running away; others allowed enslaved captives to marry the widows of slain husbands. The Creek, for example, treated the children born of slaves and tribal members as full members of the tribe rather than as enslaved offspring. Some tribes held captives as hostages for payment. Other tribes practiced debt slavery or imposed slavery on tribal members who had committed crimes; but this status was only temporary as the enslaved worked off their obligations to the tribal society."

http://www.slaveryinamerica.org/history/hs_es_indians_slavery.htm

[jordan8]

It's an odd sort of slavery where the slave sits on the porch all day and the master goes out to work.