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Bush Wants Right To Use Military If Bird Flu Hits
Reuters ^ | 10/4/05

Posted on 10/04/2005 12:02:27 PM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON, Oct 4 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush asked Congress on Tuesday to consider giving him powers to use the military to enforce quarantines in case of an avian influenza epidemic.

He said the military, and perhaps the National Guard, might be needed to take such a role if the feared H5N1 bird flu virus changes enough to cause widespread human infection.

"If we had an outbreak somewhere in the United States, do we not then quarantine that part of the country? And how do you, then, enforce a quarantine?" Bush asked at a news conference.

"It's one thing to shut down airplanes. It's another thing to prevent people from coming in to get exposed to the avian flu. And who best to be able to effect a quarantine?" Bush added.

"One option is the use of a military that's able to plan and move. So that's why I put it on the table. I think it's an important debate for Congress to have."

Bird flu has killed more than 60 people in four Asian nations since late 2003 and has been found in birds in Russia and Europe.

Experts fear that the H5N1 bird flu virus, which appears to be highly fatal when it infects people, will develop the ability to pass easily from person to person and would cause a pandemic that would kill millions.

"And I think the president ought to have all ... assets on the table to be able to deal with something this significant," Bush said.

He noted that some governors may object to the federal government commandeering the National Guard, which is under state command in most circumstances.

POLICE DUTIES BANNED

"But Congress needs to take a look at circumstances that may need to vest the capacity of the president to move beyond that debate. And one such catastrophe or one such challenge could be an avian flu outbreak," Bush said.

The active duty military is currently forbidden from undertaking law enforcement duties by the federal Posse Comitatus Act.

That law, passed in 1878 after the U.S. Civil War, does not prohibit National Guard troops under state control from doing police work. But, unless the law is changed, it would keep them from doing so if they were activated by Washington under federal control.

While the law allows the president to order the military to take control and do police work in an extreme emergency, the White House has been traditionally reluctant to usurp state powers.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters he was not aware of any current planning by the military to help respond to a flu pandemic.

But he noted that after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf region, Bush had asked Congress to consider giving the military control over initial response in dealing with major natural or other domestic disasters.

"Obviously the (Defense) Department has a tremendous amount of capability in a lot of areas. And we are a large force," Whitman said, noting also that the military had deployed field hospitals to Louisiana after the hurricanes.

Health experts are working to develop vaccines that would protect against the H5N1 strain of flu, because current influenza vaccines will not.

And countries are also developing stockpiles of drugs that can reduce the risk of serious disease or even sometimes prevent infection -- but supplies and manufacturing capacity are both limited.

Bush said he was involved in planning for an influenza pandemic, which experts say will definitely come, although they cannot predict when, or whether it will be H5N1 or some other virus. (Additional reporting by Maggie Fox)


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To: areafiftyone

No, we don't have a vaccine, bt there is a treatment. We don't stockpile that either. I think it might me manufactured abroad.


41 posted on 10/04/2005 12:35:18 PM PDT by From many - one.
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To: areafiftyone; Petronski; B4Ranch; Travis McGee

Lord have mercy. There's a CW2 ping in here somewhere.


42 posted on 10/04/2005 12:35:29 PM PDT by cyborg (I'm on the 24 plan having the best day ever.)
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To: areafiftyone
We do have a vaccine. But they haven't stockpiled it yet of course.

If I am not mistaken, you cannot stockpile this type of vaccine because it is produced to combat a specific strain of influenza, and influenza is constantly mutating. The vaccines that are produced each year are designed to target the anticipated type of influenza in circulation that year. The same vaccine may be useless the following year.

43 posted on 10/04/2005 12:37:57 PM PDT by kaboom
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To: AMERIKA

have a link to those EO's ? just want to read the text


44 posted on 10/04/2005 12:39:03 PM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: areafiftyone

Someone needs to tell Big Government George that when he swore an oath to defend the Constitution from all enemies both foreign and domestic that included himself.


45 posted on 10/04/2005 12:39:12 PM PDT by rattrap
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To: Artemis Webb
But I am curious as to how you would quarantine against aids. Please explain.

Reopen Alcatraz. It is convient to one of the most affected populations.

46 posted on 10/04/2005 12:39:27 PM PDT by w1andsodidwe (Jimmy Carter allowed radical Islam to get a foothold in Iran.)
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To: areafiftyone

No foreign virus should be allowed to cross our borders
without putting our military on the front lines to confront
and challange their invasion....

dogonne it!


47 posted on 10/04/2005 12:40:55 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: William Terrell

So, if a pandemic broke out, killing say...50% of CA's population, you would not want martial law declared and CA quarantined?


48 posted on 10/04/2005 12:41:55 PM PDT by A.Hun (The supreme irony of life is that no one gets out of it alive. R. Heinlein)
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To: NJ_gent
It's not just you. It's beginning to make me uneasy, to say the least.

Carolyn

49 posted on 10/04/2005 12:42:13 PM PDT by CDHart (The world has become a lunatic asylum and the lunatics are in charge.)
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To: PeterPrinciple
"We should have quarentined for the aids epidemic"

Ding, Ding, Ding we have a great thinking winner! You are 100% right.

50 posted on 10/04/2005 12:42:37 PM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: A.Hun
They would be the only ones in a position to enforce needed quarantines. If he is mentioning this now, it is possible.

Obviously he knows more about it than we do, and it looks like somethings got him spooked. That gets me spooked.

51 posted on 10/04/2005 12:43:58 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: joesnuffy
"No foreign virus should be allowed to cross our borders without putting our military on the front lines to confront and challenge their invasion...."

It'll most likely come in from the open, almost nonexistent, southern border.

52 posted on 10/04/2005 12:44:13 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: Artemis Webb

Same way they quarantined for tuberculosis!


53 posted on 10/04/2005 12:44:45 PM PDT by A.Hun (The supreme irony of life is that no one gets out of it alive. R. Heinlein)
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To: kaboom
If I am not mistaken, you cannot stockpile this type of vaccine because it is produced to combat a specific strain of influenza, and influenza is constantly mutating. The vaccines that are produced each year are designed to target the anticipated type of influenza in circulation that year. The same vaccine may be useless the following year.

That is quite correct.
Some time ago, I read the book linked below.

It's quite sobering, and IIRC they describe the vaccine development process in the book.

The Great Influenza: The Epic Story of the Deadliest Plague In History

54 posted on 10/04/2005 12:44:57 PM PDT by Constitution Day (When life gives you lemons, just shut up and eat your damn lemons.)
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To: kaboom
Probably not but some countries including the U.S. are doing it anyway.

Finland to stockpile enough bird flu vaccine for entire population

Malaysia to stockpile drugs and protective gear to prepare for bird flu

U.S. signs deal for stockpile of bird-flu vaccine

55 posted on 10/04/2005 12:45:25 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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To: PissAndVinegar

The only problem is that drunk drivers, stubbing your toe, and food poisoning aren't contagious. After WW I, between 25-50 million people died of the 'flu,' which is contagious. It seems to me that some precautions should be taken to avoid an epidemic...


56 posted on 10/04/2005 12:45:42 PM PDT by BlueBlood
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To: kaboom

They made a lot of pills for the government employees.


57 posted on 10/04/2005 12:45:49 PM PDT by nygoose
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To: janetgreen

possible power grab alert


58 posted on 10/04/2005 12:45:59 PM PDT by DumpsterDiver
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To: AMERIKA

Ping for later read.

EO 11000 looks interesting...


59 posted on 10/04/2005 12:46:02 PM PDT by PissAndVinegar
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To: PeterPrinciple
We, the people of the United States, should quarantine Washington, DC.
60 posted on 10/04/2005 12:46:41 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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