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Bush Wants Right To Use Military If Bird Flu Hits
Reuters ^ | 10/4/05

Posted on 10/04/2005 12:02:27 PM PDT by areafiftyone

WASHINGTON, Oct 4 (Reuters) - President George W. Bush asked Congress on Tuesday to consider giving him powers to use the military to enforce quarantines in case of an avian influenza epidemic.

He said the military, and perhaps the National Guard, might be needed to take such a role if the feared H5N1 bird flu virus changes enough to cause widespread human infection.

"If we had an outbreak somewhere in the United States, do we not then quarantine that part of the country? And how do you, then, enforce a quarantine?" Bush asked at a news conference.

"It's one thing to shut down airplanes. It's another thing to prevent people from coming in to get exposed to the avian flu. And who best to be able to effect a quarantine?" Bush added.

"One option is the use of a military that's able to plan and move. So that's why I put it on the table. I think it's an important debate for Congress to have."

Bird flu has killed more than 60 people in four Asian nations since late 2003 and has been found in birds in Russia and Europe.

Experts fear that the H5N1 bird flu virus, which appears to be highly fatal when it infects people, will develop the ability to pass easily from person to person and would cause a pandemic that would kill millions.

"And I think the president ought to have all ... assets on the table to be able to deal with something this significant," Bush said.

He noted that some governors may object to the federal government commandeering the National Guard, which is under state command in most circumstances.

POLICE DUTIES BANNED

"But Congress needs to take a look at circumstances that may need to vest the capacity of the president to move beyond that debate. And one such catastrophe or one such challenge could be an avian flu outbreak," Bush said.

The active duty military is currently forbidden from undertaking law enforcement duties by the federal Posse Comitatus Act.

That law, passed in 1878 after the U.S. Civil War, does not prohibit National Guard troops under state control from doing police work. But, unless the law is changed, it would keep them from doing so if they were activated by Washington under federal control.

While the law allows the president to order the military to take control and do police work in an extreme emergency, the White House has been traditionally reluctant to usurp state powers.

Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters he was not aware of any current planning by the military to help respond to a flu pandemic.

But he noted that after Hurricanes Katrina and Rita devastated the Gulf region, Bush had asked Congress to consider giving the military control over initial response in dealing with major natural or other domestic disasters.

"Obviously the (Defense) Department has a tremendous amount of capability in a lot of areas. And we are a large force," Whitman said, noting also that the military had deployed field hospitals to Louisiana after the hurricanes.

Health experts are working to develop vaccines that would protect against the H5N1 strain of flu, because current influenza vaccines will not.

And countries are also developing stockpiles of drugs that can reduce the risk of serious disease or even sometimes prevent infection -- but supplies and manufacturing capacity are both limited.

Bush said he was involved in planning for an influenza pandemic, which experts say will definitely come, although they cannot predict when, or whether it will be H5N1 or some other virus. (Additional reporting by Maggie Fox)


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To: areafiftyone

Does this mean F-15s will be given the green light to fire on birds?


61 posted on 10/04/2005 12:47:06 PM PDT by Kokojmudd (Outsource Federal Judiciary and US Senate to India, NOW!)
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To: AMERIKA

Why doesn't the gov't just get on with it?


62 posted on 10/04/2005 12:47:33 PM PDT by nygoose
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To: A.Hun
Well I guess that depends if you live in CA.
If the same happened in your area would you like to be imprisoned?
63 posted on 10/04/2005 12:48:36 PM PDT by vrwc0915
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To: PissAndVinegar

I'm sure we have plans to invade Canada and Japan too. Will we ever use them? No (well, maybe not Japan ;-)

But it sure is nice someone is planning for it to mitigate problems with the response.


64 posted on 10/04/2005 12:49:00 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (When a Jihadist dies, an angel gets its wings)
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To: Kokojmudd

Yes, any suspicious acting ones. (look out Teddy)


65 posted on 10/04/2005 12:49:16 PM PDT by azhenfud (He who always is looking up seldom finds others' lost change.)
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To: glorgau

I think it is a matter of inept, corrupt and a totally disfunctional civilian systems. The military works with fewer rules - though they have their share - has leadership and is goal oriented. All similar responsible civilian agencies are burdened with cumbersome and often contradictory rules and regulations - Congress makes the rules and bureaucracies interpret them. The implementation of rules of disaster relief/response have too much emphasis on making sure the right people - as opposed to the deserving people - getting government help, read "money".


66 posted on 10/04/2005 12:49:33 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: azhenfud

Bet you never thought you'd see a catastrophic flood in New Orleans in your lifetime, either.


67 posted on 10/04/2005 12:49:41 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: pbrown

I think its smart to pay very close attention. This is not scaremongering. This is something possible in the near future and inescapable in the long term. Mother earth has her own checks and balances. People should never forget that.


68 posted on 10/04/2005 12:50:07 PM PDT by A.Hun (The supreme irony of life is that no one gets out of it alive. R. Heinlein)
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To: areafiftyone

Oh, boy. Why not draw up plans for an armed citizen volunteer corp to enforce any quarantines and supplement the National Guard. This corps, if needed, would be composed of law-abiding, well-trained gun owners. In other words, the militia. Then the army can go about training for its primary job, which, as Rush says, is to kill people and break things.


69 posted on 10/04/2005 12:50:12 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, get over yourself, already!)
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To: nygoose

Look at the story out of Canada today. At least 6 have died from a nursing home. The others are sick...


70 posted on 10/04/2005 12:50:57 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: NJ_gent

Frightening isn't it?

Just think. He's going to leave office, probably for a democrat to fill with all these sets of circumstances applicable to using military force.

What next. Sometimes I wonder...


71 posted on 10/04/2005 12:51:22 PM PDT by OpusatFR (Vegetarian, permaculturalist, cloth wearing, green, peak oil believing Trad Catholic Indie.)
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To: Constitution Day

Wasn't that the book on President Bush's reading list this summer?


72 posted on 10/04/2005 12:51:24 PM PDT by goodnesswins (DEMS....40 yrs and $$$dollars for the War on Poverty, but NOT a $$ or minute for the WAR on Terror!)
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To: vrwc0915

I wouldn't have any choice, and shouldn't have. I am already somewhat prepared for exactly this scenario.


73 posted on 10/04/2005 12:51:35 PM PDT by A.Hun (The supreme irony of life is that no one gets out of it alive. R. Heinlein)
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To: NJ_gent
Is it just me, or is our President looking for more and more situations in which the Commander-in-Chief should be allowed to use American military forces on our own soil?

You would be correct.

I have long been of the opinion that Bush is not conservative, but instead, part of the Crony Party. His desires to use American troops on American soil in no way jibe with the desires of most conservatives.

74 posted on 10/04/2005 12:53:07 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is merely Nazism without the snappy fashion sense.)
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To: vrwc0915

http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html


75 posted on 10/04/2005 12:53:07 PM PDT by AMERIKA
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To: Doctor Stochastic
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76 posted on 10/04/2005 12:53:19 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, get over yourself, already!)
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To: A.Hun
I totally agree.

I've been worried about the things China has been cooking up lately. Their containment measures aren't as stringent as ours. I was wondering when someone would make a issue over possibilities of a pandemic striking here. I don't see it as a power grab. I see it as forewarned is forearmed.

77 posted on 10/04/2005 12:54:44 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: areafiftyone
Only 60 people worldwide died from it in the past two years and that is the justification? Or perhaps this is a rope-a-dope play to get Congress to declare that the NG is the governor's responsibility and they will be the ones to call them into service just like Gov. Blank-o did ... er, did not ... uh, oh ... I see.

If kept at the state level you could expect to see a Gov. deploy their troops at their state lines, the ACLU to file an emergency Commerce Clause appeal, and meanwhile the Prez will nationalize the troops. What a mess!

It is healthy to have the discussion but I am not comfortable giving blanket authority to the President. It's better to have a path available so a Governor can request Federal support, but it must come from the state and not be imposed by a President no matter how well intentioned.

78 posted on 10/04/2005 12:54:49 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: goodnesswins
Wasn't that the book on President Bush's reading list this summer?

I have no idea. I read it last winter, I believe.

79 posted on 10/04/2005 12:55:14 PM PDT by Constitution Day (When life gives you lemons, just shut up and eat your damn lemons.)
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To: From many - one.
I wonder if it wouldn't be a bit more effective to let the local police do the enforcement and focus on medical preparedness: prevention, treatments, distribution networks and suchlike before we end up with de facto martial law.

I'm afraid that might be too compatible with ordered liberty for this administration...

80 posted on 10/04/2005 12:55:20 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, get over yourself, already!)
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