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Student Investigated by the FBI
WBNS-10TV Central Ohio ^ | Oct 1, 2005 | by Kevin Landers

Posted on 10/05/2005 3:32:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

An Ohio company gets credit from the FBI for putting an immigrant student, who raised suspicions when he tried to order thousands of dollars worth of pilot information, in federal custody.

What raised the red flag is the credit card he used was declined. It was then that federal agents began to investigate.

Mahmoud Maawad is an Egyptian-born citizen living in the U.S. illegally. According to an affidavit, Maawad "placed 11 orders by wire" to Sporty's Pilot Shop located near Cincinnati "for flight equipment."

FBI agents say the 29-year-old logged on to the website for Sporty's Pilot Shop and tried to buy $3,300 in merchandise, including pilot clothes, airline software, an airport map and a DVD entitled, "How An Airline Pilot Should Look."

There's nothing illegal about that, but when the credit card was rejected for lack of funds, the store called the authorities.

FBI agents later raided his apartment in Memphis and discovered a fake social security number that they say he used to open a credit card account and enroll at the University of Memphis. They also found flight simulation software and detailed information of the Memphis airport.

Agents say Maawad once attended Bergen Community College in Patterson, New Jersey, the same city where six of the of September 11th hijackers lived.

(Excerpt) Read more at 10tv.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Ohio; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fbi; maawad; oh; ok; oubombing; terrorism; wot
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Received via email on the CAS mailing list.

Not directly related to the OU Bombing, but thought it interesting. The post was followed by this note:

"Zacarias Moussaoui purchased flight deck videos from Sporty's."

And this mentioning Norman Oklahoma:

"Pursuant to my last email (below), this excerpt regarding the history of 9-11, with source:

"Then there are the disturbing similarities between Moussaoui and Mohamed Atta, federal sources say. Atta visited the same flight school in Norman, Okla., that Moussaoui attended, although Atta wound up taking flight training in Florida. Atta and Moussaoui both researched using crop dusters for what might have been a biochemical attack, and Atta and Moussaoui both bought "flight deck" instructional videos for the Boeing 747 from the same retailer, Sporty's Pilot Shop in Batavia, Ohio. Based on an interview with a woman who lived downstairs from Moussaoui in Norman, Okla., NEWSWEEK reported in mid-October that Moussaoui ordered videos on the 747-200 and 747-400-a finding now included in the indictment." [CNN/Newsweek, Sarah Downey, "Who Is Zacarias Moussaoui? http://www.msnbc.com/news/673068.asp#BODY] "

1 posted on 10/05/2005 3:32:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson

Very interesting.


2 posted on 10/05/2005 3:36:28 AM PDT by aculeus
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To: Jim Robinson

Not even "The Washington Times" is covering this.

The result could have been much worse than what McVeigh did.

I don't get it.


3 posted on 10/05/2005 3:38:20 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Jim Robinson
This is all the talk around here, naturally, and the FBI, according to the local news channels, scheduled two different news conferences which were subsequently canceled.

Still quite don't know what to make of it all at this point, but there's a lot that doesn't seem to add up so far. This information adds another interesting piece to what is turning out to be a curious puzzle.

4 posted on 10/05/2005 3:42:47 AM PDT by A Jovial Cad ("It has been my experience that folks who have no vices have very few virtues." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Jim Robinson
Maawad's visa expired five years ago.

Golly gee, who'd a thunk it?

At this stage of the game, anybody who doesn't realize that "They" are amongst us has their head up the proverbial dark place.

5 posted on 10/05/2005 3:44:10 AM PDT by metesky (This land was your land, this land is MY land; I bought the rights from a town selectman!)
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To: Jim Robinson

There is no doubt that among US are still some who plot and plan to carry out their terror. Sadly the liberals have gone insane and think the enemy is President Bush.


6 posted on 10/05/2005 3:48:30 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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Received via email on the CAS mailing list.

Glad to hear CAS is still around. I migrated to here when the Lewinsky news broke, but it was a good resource back in the Dark Ages of the Clinton administration.

7 posted on 10/05/2005 3:52:02 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Jim Robinson
when the credit card was rejected for lack of funds, the store called the authorities.

Note to self: pay credit card bill.

8 posted on 10/05/2005 3:58:14 AM PDT by ordinaryguy
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I think they are all splinters of the same cloth...all roads lead back through Norman and more recently OU. I would like to know if Ramzi Yosuf was in the Phillipines the same time as Terry Nichols.

The Murrah bombing has the same methods used in the 1993 WTC attack (fertilizer bomb in a Ryder truck).

9 posted on 10/05/2005 4:06:34 AM PDT by RasterMaster (I'm not ignoring you, just multitasking!)
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There's nothing illegal about that, but when the credit card was rejected for lack of funds, the store called the authorities.

Oh great! So does this mean that if the card was legit, this 'patriotic' company would have sold a terroist lots of goodies he needed to perpetrate some 'incident'?

10 posted on 10/05/2005 4:06:38 AM PDT by AmericaUnited
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Egyptian-born citizen living in the U.S. illegally-----one way ticket home and don't bother to land the plane.


11 posted on 10/05/2005 4:10:12 AM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: AmericaUnited

The terrorist are living among us. I am glad they caught him.


12 posted on 10/05/2005 4:19:35 AM PDT by just me
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To: Jim Robinson

And the Bush administration still doesn't see an illegal immigration problem . . . . .


13 posted on 10/05/2005 4:26:36 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: AmericaUnited
Oh great! So does this mean that if the card was legit, this 'patriotic' company would have sold a terroist lots of goodies he needed to perpetrate some 'incident'?

No, it means exactly what it said. If you have ever worked retail or managed it, you know that you process orders continually. Most of the time they are number coded, and your clerks don't even see the titles they are selling. This store markets info and the mere purchase of such items is not sufficient to "red flag" the guy. We are lucky that the guy was a dumbass. I personally would have hired a local black muslim to make the purchase for me, in person and in cash. He could scream "RACIST" if there were any questions and no one would have done anything.

14 posted on 10/05/2005 4:27:35 AM PDT by chronic_loser
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To: Jim Robinson; All
Moussaoui, Atta & Marwan al-Shehhi(Pentagon pilot/hijacker) wanted to rent a motel room for a week about 28 miles north of Norman... 6 weeks before 9/11. The manager however, couldn't accomodate them because he was filled-up.

The manager thought it was strange for them to rent so far from the flight school in Norman... there were plenty of motels closer. Odd thing... this is the same motel that McVeigh(and supposedly several Iraqi's) stayed in before the bombing in 1995.

15 posted on 10/05/2005 4:33:03 AM PDT by johnny7 (“Nah, I ain’t Jewish, I just don’t dig on swine, that’s all.”)
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To: RasterMaster
The Murrah bombing has the same methods used in the 1993 WTC attack (fertilizer bomb in a Ryder truck).

History Channel ran an excellent piece on Ramzi Yousef last night.

Something I hadn't known before, after WTC 1993 he made it to Bangkok and built a huge fertilizer truck bomb which fortunately was prevented from attacking the US embassy there... only due to a minor traffic accident before they made it to the embassy gates.

They showed video of the truck and the disassembly of the bomb, which apparently was fairly sophisticated. There was also a dead guy in the bed of the truck, whom the BKK police ID'd as the guy who rented it to Yousef.

16 posted on 10/05/2005 4:36:02 AM PDT by angkor
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To: RasterMaster
The Murrah bombing has the same methods used in the 1993 WTC attack (fertilizer bomb in a Ryder truck).

Yup. And after the '93 attack failed, AQ came along eight years later to finish the job -- in a manner startling similiar to Ramzi Yousef's Project Bojinka. But, as we all know, there's no connection between Al Qaeda and Iraq. Nope, never has been. Isn't that what the Dims tell us?

17 posted on 10/05/2005 4:36:19 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: Jim Robinson
a DVD entitled, "How An Airline Pilot Should Look."

Why is there even a market for a DVD like that?

18 posted on 10/05/2005 4:37:49 AM PDT by TankerKC (Done with the NFL..)
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To: DustyMoment
And the Bush administration still doesn't see an illegal immigration problem . . . . .

What is even more amazing to me is the nimrods who continually howl about the Mexico border and scream for action when the talk goes to terror.

Any halfwit with three functioning synapses can see that the real risk is from young males from Islamic countries who are here on student or other types of visas or who have overstayed such visas.

The second critical risk is our completely porous border with CANADA where they harbor hordes of fanatical sheetheads (two of whom they have caught here in the country illegally planning to do us harm).

Despite this, we have tons of "conservatives" here on Free Republic who bray continuously about the "security risk" at the border with Mexico! And, they pound the table continuously that THIS should be our first priority in addressing illegal immigration!!!! Such slack jawed drooling stupidity defies any rational categories I can see. There may be problems (I believe there are severe problems!) with some poor Mexican family swimming across the Rio Grande to mow our yards, but to act as though THAT is the security risk on our borders requires a willing idiocy that is clearly fueled by something other than concern for our safety.

19 posted on 10/05/2005 4:39:22 AM PDT by chronic_loser
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To: DustyMoment

Oh, no. Did this guy swim the Rio Grande?


20 posted on 10/05/2005 4:39:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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