Posted on 10/05/2005 3:32:03 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
Maawad's visa expired five years ago. He's currently charged with using a fake social security card and wire fraud. The FBI says it has no evidence that he has any connection to a terrorist group.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see where this was/is going. Maawad is here illegally, had fake social security and someone else’s visa card. If our liberal laws of protecting the criminal hinder the FBI, turn the terrorist over to ICE, brand him on the forehead and deport him ASAP!
Just another illegal doing a job Americans won't.
The pilot suit doesn't bother me so much as his visa expired 5 years ago and our government didn't care.
Yeah, I know. Damn government is useless when it comes to tracking down people. Ought to have a great big old database or something to track us, er them, er, well, you know what I mean.
Well said and deftly played. I suppose a police state is preferable to finding ways to solve our MESS with the borders that actually encourage the good guys to stay! I always thought "true conservatives" were against expansion of state powers. Silly me.
again, that was a very witty post.
ping
That's not the point, and I think you know it.
There was a time when foreigners in this country had to have visas for whatever reason they were here and they had to register each January with Immigration just to let them know where they were and what they were doing. When someone didn't register in January and there was no record of them leaving the country, the INS would track them down and deport them.
Somewhere along the line, the INS stopped doing its job and tracking the activity of foreigners in this country. This is partly what lead to 9/11 and the prevailing belief that another attack, possibly more deadly, is in our future.
The DHS isn't doing its job, the INS isn't doing its job and Americans are vulnerable to terrorist attack as a result.
That is why they will never do away with the IRS as we know it and go to a consumer tax. SSN are used everyday to track people, even though they are not supposed to be used for ID, try doing business with a bank without one.
>>>Ramzi Yosuf was in the Phillipines the same time as Terry Nichols.
Yes they were in Cebu. That is on FR. I remember reading it.
There are also human smuggling problems with networks using ports and airlines. This has been the priority of Operation ICE Storm. I post a lot of their press releases. See FR Keyword Search: ICE
They seem to have remembered what's in their job description long enough to deal with Elian, then forgot again.
Pardon for my denseness, but what is the specific link you are postulating (between iraq and Al Q)??
It actually IS the point, and you are still missing it. Fixing our HORRIBLE HORRIBLE immigrant situation is not a justification for turning the country into a police state. The same mechanisms the "close the border" people advocate to fix the problem will inevitably erode our freedoms. Sorry. Just the way it is, and Jim nailed it perfectly and wittily.
Surely you jest!
Cal, thanks for the ping, interesting way to learn to be a pilot........
Is that how you learned, Wings?
(said with a big smile, to fit the joke)....
"Damn government is useless when it comes to tracking down people. Ought to have a great big old database or something to track us, er them, er, well, you know what I mean."
LOL at that "thought exercise" Iim, just see how far even tracking public information got the Able Danger gang....
We're in a pickle here and this story illustrates it well. The CIA, DIA & FBI are not omni-present or infallible in spite of many who believe they can & should be. In this rapid fire world of hi-tech, does anyone believe they have the legal basis, resources, technology and pure dumb luck to connect every piece of every puzzle everytime in the WOT?
"There's nothing illegal about that, but when the credit card was rejected for lack of funds, the store called the authorities."
#5 - How to handle deadbeats
Who said anything about turning the country into a police state?
Put your coffe down and chill. Controlling the borders, controlling immigration doesn't mean turning the country into a police state, it means doing what every other country in the world EXCEPT this one does. That's how other countries provide security for their citizens and control immigration.
That's all I'm saying.
>>>>what every other country in the world EXCEPT this one does.
Really? You need to follow a few more human trafficking threads.
Just here to do the jobs Americans refuse to do?
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