Newdow Wants To Change Entire Pledge Of Allegiance

KCRA ^ | 10/05/05 | KCRA

[Pikamax]

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- A man who is fighting to get the words "under God" out of the Pledge of Allegiance was back in federal court Wednesday, making some surprising comments about the case.

Although the hearing was a procedural matter with no key rulings, Michael Newdow said that if he is successful in having the words removed from the pledge at the U.S. Supreme Court level, it still wouldn't be enough.

Newdow believes that it is time to get rid of the old Pledge of Allegiance altogether. He said that it's impractical to just change the pledge because children will continue to say "under God" out of habit or under protest.

"The whole point of the pledge was to unify the students, and it's not," Newdow said outside the hearing Wednesday. "(The pledge) has become divisive, not so much because it has been the atheists who have become discriminated (against), and they don't have so much of a voice. But if the Christians and the people who believe in God want to start throwing 'God' in there, the pledge will be continuing 'one nation indivisible,' while someone is saying 'under God.' And I think it's going to be a mess, and I think we're going to have to get rid of it."

Newdow also said there should possibly be some kind of a competition to come up with a new pledge.

Judge Lawrence Carleton in the hearing Wednesday told Newdow and attorneys for three Sacramento-area school districts that once the procedural motions are filed, he will quickly file an injunction against the schools, and then send the case to the Ninth District Circuit Court of Appeals. Carleton said he would not rule on the merits of the case himself.

School district attorney Terrance Cassidy said that the case is proceeding as expected.

"We're pleased that he announced that he would immediately enter a stay of any injunction that he would enter so that the school district would not change its day-to-day procedure and would be able to continue to recite the Pledge of Allegiance on a day-to-day basis throughout ... all the appeals," Cassidy said.

[cripplecreek]

Newdow needs to fall asleep on a set of train tracks.

[digger48]

Having a bad complexion musta really had an effect on this jerks outlook on life.

[gondramB]

"Newdow believes that it is time to get rid of the old Pledge of Allegiance altogether. He said that it's impractical to just change the pledge because children will continue to say "under God" out of habit or under protest."

I thought there was a small chance this guy was sincere about separation of church and state. This comment reveals that he is against free expression of religion. Hopefully this will end his 15 minutes.

[Tim Long]

... or a set of "get over it, you crybaby atheist" tracks.

[No Longer Free State]

under protest

So now it's unconstitutional for other children to say it if they chooooose to?

[NautiNurse]

He said that it's impractical to just change the pledge because children will continue to say "under God" out of habit or under protest.

Newdow rather resembles The Grinch now, doesn't he?

[556x45]

Geez...where to start. This was never an issue until the left made it so. They decided to continue litigation until a judgment was made in their favor. That's what makes this issue 'divisive'. They're demanding to win no matter what anyone else (or tradition or history) says. What is with liberals? If they decide not to say the pledge then fine. I don't like it but that's their choice. I'll choose to say it just as is with all the words. It's surprising how the party of choice to kill babies in the womb (and out) are so against any choices they don't favor. I don't think that occurs to them though.

[Montfort]

Here's one he'd probably like:

I pledge allegiance to myself.

And to the nothingness for which I stand.

One man.

Without God.

With slavish submission to political correctness and America-hating apologies to all.

[fredhead]

I said it before and I'll say it again. In a way, I hope that Newdow outlives me. I want to be there when he comes face to face with the God he says doesn't exist.

Maybe if he goes first, St. Peter will let me see the replay.

[Argus]

Newdow also said there should possibly be some kind of a competition to come up with a new pledge

How about Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer? Worked for the Nazis, and they didn't believe in God either.

[cripplecreek]

One good thing about Newdow is the fact that he's too arrogant or stupid to keep his true agenda to himself.

[TheOracleAtLilac]

why does 158 gr. JHP come to mind ?

[Americanwolf]

To: Mr. Newdow
RE: Pledge of Allegiance

Mr. Newdow,

what gives you the right to speak for an entire nation?
What sacrifices have you made that even remotely gives you the right to call for this change?

Have you served your country? Have you served in an office of politics? have you done anything else by complain?

Sir just because you have and issue with the pledge does not give you the right to take it away from the rest of Americian s who not only say it, but say it proudly.

You have been a lawyer and a doctor, both professions that require a modicum on intelligence to conduct. So it stuns me that you can be so irrational on this point.

What is your suggestion to replace it?

You and the 9th circus court misuse the 1st amendment to further your case. you attempt to use it in a form the framers did not intend, and that is also why this case will fail at the Supreme court level.

If you do not appreciate the right that this country bestows upon its people and allows them to exercise them freely. (which by the way includes reciting the pledge in its current form.) There are several other countries where your type of thought is more acceptable... perhaps you should talk to fidel casto or hugo chavez... they like you mindset...

being a defender of this country and its constitution, I served to protect peoples right to speak, worship, and act upon their other freedoms as they wish... not to see fellow citizen misuse the Constitution to try to restrict others rights.

Mr. Newdow you are a wrong, your attempts to change the core of this country is wrong, and you will lose in the end. You will not even be a footnote to history.

IYAOYAS,

AW

P.s. pray (oh wait you don't) we never meet and have a discussion..I will take every point you have and turn the Constitution against what you are doing.
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Sorry for the rant folks but I have had enough of this idiot trying to misuse and abuse the Constitution for his own communist leanings..

[Maceman]

Newdow also said there should possibly be some kind of a competition to come up with a new pledge..

I guess he'd prefer this one:

I pledge allegiance
To the Federal Government
of the United Nations of Earth,
And to the wisdom of our leaders, in whom we trust,
One planet, under Kofi,
With prosperity and comfort for all.

[sgtbono2002]

Maybe he could run out of gas at 2AM in Watts or Harlem.

[Americanwolf]

logical choice? ;)

[gondramB]

"One good thing about Newdow is the fact that he's too arrogant or stupid to keep his true agenda to himself."

Yep. this was a strategic blunder... and a lucky blunder for us.

[bpjam]

Mr. Newdow, I'd like to introduce you to Chief Justice Roberts. He will be explaining the Constitution to you for the last time. And after that you will need to leave the continent.