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What if Miers is a conservative AND Bush is an idiot? (Nice Kitty, Niiiiice kitty)
Too little sleep ^ | 10/8/05 | Dangus

Posted on 10/08/2005 11:15:04 AM PDT by dangus

Let's avoid kidding ourselves, shall we? Democrats aren't going to defeat Miers. They know the only liberal under consideration was Alberto Gonzales, the guy they used to argue that maybe Hussein wasn't so bad, as if a few humiliating photographs compared to the physical torture, starvation or execution of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi dissidents. (Man, those Democrats must've been scarred earlier in their lives. Memo to self: Don't join a fraternity that allows hazing but is "tolerant" of deviant sexual practices.)

No, Harriet Miers was the best they could hope for. Sure they're afraid she MIGHT be conservative -- and I'm happy to say I believe those fears are well-founded -- but she ain't no Janice Rogers Brown. They were so grateful for Miers, they probably melted down their golden phalluses to offer as praise honorings to their high priestesses! (Is that too much inflammatory rhetoric? I know that cigars would suffice.)

A problem with the conservative movement is this: Conservatives are used to most everything being run by liberals, so they fall in around a perceived champion who represents the best hope for challenging liberals. Elections often become about defending "their guy."

A problem with this is that it permits liberals to prevent any political discourse to the right of the Republican champion. If the champion is a true conservative, that's not so bad; a fantastic amout of conservative philosophy was developed under Reagan. If the champion is a moderate, it's fatal.

Another problem is quite basic: Bush isn't running for re-election. And yet, criticism of conservative leadership is habitually forbidden, because it hurts "the movement."

A unique time in American history when conservatives were willing to criticize their leader was in 1993. The country was [perceived to be still] in a recession, which was blamed on President George H. W. Bush's tax hikes. Souter was already obviously a liberal, and we still had a problem with Hussein in Iraq, even though we beat him in a war. Bush had governed like a liberal, and even liberals blamed his liberalism for the apparent poor shape the country was in.

The failure of conservatives to defend Bush may actually have cost the Republicans the presidential election, but they did win back control of Congress in the next election for the first time in three generations, and haven't lost it since. Not only that, but the new Republicans were light years better than the old breed (who unfortunatelt won a counter-revolution in 1996) of worthless moderates who ran the Republican party, like Senators Specter, Dole, Hatfield, Chafee, Warner, Roth, Simpson, and Stevens.

The other time conservatives expressed frustration at Republicans was in the late '70's, after America has "lost" the Viet Nam "war," the economy was in shambles, and a Republican president was forced to resign from the White House after having spent years trying to placate Democrats by caving in to their every demand. Reagan ran in 1976 against the man who pardoned Nixon, and very nearly defeated an incumbent Republican.

Reagan didn't run against Washington liberals; he ran against Washington. And Republicans in Washington in 1976 and 1980 weren't at all shy to reveal their hatred for him, fretting as Reagan ran against Jimmy frickin' Carter that he couldn't win because he was too radically right-wing. Even after Reagan won 49 states in 1984, Washington Republicans refused to see the wisdom of standing up for principle. They routinely helped Democrats override Reagan's vetoes, meanwhile carping about deficits while their veto overrides stripped Reagan of the power to do more about the deficit.

In both cases, conservatism was boldly advanced. But in both cases this only happened after a chastising defeat of a Republican leader.

My question is: Why wait? Why wait until the campaign-finance overlords hand us another mushy moderate who gets hammered in the next election by a Democrat who fakes to the right? Why let immigration reform be what welfare reform was in 1992? Why wait for charges of "coddling terrorists"?

I'm not saying pound on Republicans in Washington for no reason. I'm not saying we should call Bush an idiot. I'm proposing defending conservativism instead of a lame-duck president. Their not totally separate; a president with a 12 percent approval rating can do little to promote conservativism. But on the other hand, it could even teach a president with a forty-something percent approval rating that he could do better by winning the support of conservatives rather than try and sneak by as a liberal.

So, let's suppose a fairly apolitical American is uncomfortable about Miers because she appears to be a crony. Do we avoid the issue (and fail at an opportunity to promote conservativism) because we agree that she was a bad pick? Do we make lame excuses for the selection of a crony? Do we promote the perception that conservatives are unreasonable by saying we simply trust Bush. Or do we say how our favorite pick would have been better, teach why that person's position on a given issue is so beneficial, and then, after having established ourselves as reasonable and thinking people, teach how much worse it could have been if a liberal had gotten to select a Supreme Court pick?

Or, consider the Iraq war. Do we simply insist Bush has been perfect, and inadverdantly teach that defending ourselves inevitably causes everything that concerns the other person to happen? (And, yes, it is good to teach that we should be willing to make sacrifices, but its not good to teach that we can't help causing problems for others.)

Or do we recognize the difficulties we have had, assert that they HAVE been worth it, but then examine ways thinks could have been done better from a conservative perspective.

Did Hussein get rid of his WMDs while we were wasting time trying to get Frace's approval? Did going to the UN set a bad precedent which hinders our ability to deal with Iran? Did terrorists get the opportunity to organize themselves in the northern part of the country because of our misplaced reliance on Turkey in formulating our military strategy?

Seriesly folks, you want to have fun? Next time a liberal wonders why we are in Iraq while "a more dangerous threat exists in North Korea," say try this answer:

"Damn straight. If George Bush weren't so concerned about the United Nations, we could turned Kim Jong Il's palace into glass by now, but he keeps trying to appease liberals by establishing that these crackpots dictatorships have broken international law before invading them. To hell with the U.N.! To hell with Colin Powell! The hell with the French! It's bad enough we waited ten years allowing Hussein to starve a million people by cuttig off their water supply while he built golden toilet paper dispesers with the food aid. Why don't the Koreans deserve to be liberated?"

Notice how I even got to correction a notion that sanctions caused the starvation, as opposed to Hussein's deliberate genocide? You should've seen the look on my pastor's face. :^D


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1 posted on 10/08/2005 11:15:06 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

btt


2 posted on 10/08/2005 11:20:02 AM PDT by NeoCaveman (trust but verify)
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To: dangus
This piece is just too good and commonsensical for the forum, which is why I expect that it will be deported to General/Chat rather soon, if not by the time this post is registered.
3 posted on 10/08/2005 11:21:19 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: inquest

Thanks... I'll be happy if I don't get zotted! :^D


4 posted on 10/08/2005 11:22:21 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus
I'll be happy if I don't get zotted!

You'll be lucky too.

5 posted on 10/08/2005 11:23:28 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski
Don't worry, he's on safe ground in that department. If this was one year ago, he might have run into problems, but Bush-worship has definitely been losing its romance lately.
6 posted on 10/08/2005 11:28:01 AM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Petronski

I have more confidence in the Kitties' ability to read past a head line to the rest of an article before zotting everyone.

(By the way, If only I could think of someone who might be able to use all this nice warm milk I just happen to have...)


7 posted on 10/08/2005 11:30:19 AM PDT by dangus
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To: dangus

Great post!


8 posted on 10/08/2005 11:32:28 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (I don't think I'm half as good as I know I really am.)
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To: dangus

I prefer the Army acronym: MOOSEMUSS! I begin to wonder if there are bitter little McCains running about on this forum.


9 posted on 10/08/2005 11:33:55 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Proud Member of the Water Bucket Brigade - Merry MOOSEMUSS!)
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To: To Hell With Poverty

However, as much as I like the points made here, I *do* like seeing all the kitty pictures before the ZOTs! ; )


10 posted on 10/08/2005 11:34:06 AM PDT by To Hell With Poverty (I don't think I'm half as good as I know I really am.)
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To: dangus
Even after Reagan won 49 states in 1984, Washington Republicans refused to see the wisdom of standing up for principle. They routinely helped Democrats override Reagan's vetoes

Establishment (primarily East coast) Republicans are a far more dangerous enemy than liberal Democrats. At least the latter doesn't dress up in costumes.

11 posted on 10/08/2005 11:34:31 AM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: RasterMaster; dangus
MOOSEMUSS BUMP!!!

DANG GOOD DANGUS!!!

12 posted on 10/08/2005 11:41:08 AM PDT by smoothsailing (Just an old Nam guy)
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To: dangus

What if Miers is a conservative AND [President]Bush is consistant in the fact that he has always picked good Judicial nominees (the one that survive the RINO's in the Senate).


13 posted on 10/08/2005 11:41:26 AM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: To Hell With Poverty
I think the Kitties aren't too pissed off.
14 posted on 10/08/2005 11:44:13 AM PDT by dangus
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To: smoothsailing

Thanks. What's Moosemuss?


15 posted on 10/08/2005 11:45:22 AM PDT by dangus
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"Proudly" posting without reading the article since 1998.




;OP


17 posted on 10/08/2005 11:49:00 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: dangus
So, let's suppose a fairly apolitical American is uncomfortable about Miers because she appears to be a crony

I totally disagree with this because to the average apolitical American...the SCOTUS is way below the radar.

Just listen to one of those man on the street interviews that Hannity does, many, many Americans have no idea who the VP is, much less understand or even know that the President has made two recent nominations to the SC.

If they're apolitical, I don't think they're following this story.

18 posted on 10/08/2005 11:49:37 AM PDT by dawn53
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To: Mr. Mojo
Establishment (primarily East coast) Republicans are a far more dangerous enemy than liberal Democrats. At least the latter doesn't dress up in costumes.

Well the latter do dress up in costumes on high holy days marked by sodomy celebrations and parades.
But I know what you mean. ;)

19 posted on 10/08/2005 11:49:46 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: dangus

In short, Army terminology for defeating the enemy in war without (in the case of Miers) firing a shot.


20 posted on 10/08/2005 11:50:05 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Proud Member of the Water Bucket Brigade - Merry MOOSEMUSS!)
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