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Can an Electron be in Two Places at the Same Time?
Max Planck Society ^ | 11 October 2005 | Staff

Posted on 10/12/2005 3:10:28 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

A hundred years ago, we took the first steps in recognising, at the level of elementary physical events, the dual character of nature that had been postulated in natural philosophy. Albert Einstein was the first who saw Max Planck’s quantum hypothesis leading to this dual character. Einstein suggested the photon have an electromagnetic wave character, although photons had previously been considered as particles. That was the quintessence of his work on the photoelectric effect. Later in 1926, it was deBroglie that recognised that all the building blocks of nature known to us as particles - electrons, protons, etc. - behave like waves under certain conditions.

In its totality, therefore, nature is dual. None of its components can only be considered as a particle or as a wave. To understand this fact, Niels Bohr introduced in 1923 the Complementarity Principle: simply put, every component in nature has a particle, as well as a wavelike character, and it depends only on the observer which character he sees at any given time. In other words, the experiment determines which characteristic one is measuring - particle or wave.

His whole life long, Einstein suspected [PH: shouldn't that be "doubted"?] that natural characteristics actually depend on the observer. He believed that there must be a reality independent of the observer. Indeed, quantum physics has simply come to accept as a given over the years that there does not seem to be an independent reality. Physics has ceased questioning this, because experiments have confirmed it repeatedly and with a growing accuracy.

The best example is Young’s double-slit experiment. Coherent light is passed through a barrier with two slits. On an observation screen behind it, there is a pattern made of light and dark stripes. The experiment can be carried out not only with light, but also particles - for example, electrons. If single electrons are sent, one after the other, through the open Young double slit, then a stripe-shaped interference pattern appears on the photo plate behind it. The pattern contains no information about the route that the electron took. But if one of the two slits is closed, an image appears of the other open slit from which one can directly read the path of the electron. What this experiment does not produce, however, is a stripe pattern and situation report. For that, a molecular double slit experiment is required that is based not upon position-momentum uncertainty, but on reflective symmetry.

The double-slit was voted the most beautiful experiment of all time in a 2002 poll by Physics World, published by England’s Institute of Physics. Although each electron seems to go alone through one of the two slits, at the end a wavelike interference pattern is created, as if the electron split while it went through the slit, but then was subsequently re-unified. But if one of the slits is closed, or an observer sees which slit the electron went through, then it behaves like a perfectly normal particle. That particle is only at one position at one time, but not at the same time. So, depending on how the experiment is carried out, the electron is either at position A, position B, or at both at the same time.

But Bohr’s Complementarity Principle, which explains this ambiguity, requires that one can only observe one of the two electron manifestations at any given time - either as a wave or a particle, but not both simultaneously. This remains a certainty in every experiment, despite all the ambiguity in quantum physics. Either a system is in a state of "both/and" like a wave, or "either/or" like a particle, relating to its localisation. This is, in principle, a consequence of Heisenberg’s uncertainty principle, which says that given a complementary pair of measurements - for example, position and momentum - only one can be determined exactly at the same time. Information about the other measurement is lost, proportionally.

Recently there has been a set of experiments suggesting that these various manifestations of material can be "carried over into" each other - in other words, they can switch from one form to the other and, under certain conditions, back again. This set of experiments is called quantum markers and quantum erasers. Researchers have shown in the last few years that for atoms and photons - and now, electrons - "both/and" and "either/or" exist side-by-side. In other words, there is a grey zone of complementarity. There are therefore experimentally demonstrable conditions in which the material appears to be both a wave and a particle.

These situations can be described with a duality relation. It can be seen as an extended Complementarity Principle for quantum physics; it can also be labelled a co-existence principle. It says that manifestations of material which would normally be mutually exclusive - e.g., local and not local, coherent and not coherent - are indeed measurable and make themselves evident, in a particular "transition area". One can speak of partial localisation and partial coherence, or partial visibility and partial differentiability. These are measurements that are connected to each other via the duality relation.

In this transition area the Complementarity Principle, and the complementary dualism of nature, can be extended to be a co-existence principle, a parallel dualism. Nature has thus an ambivalent character previously unassumed. Atomic interferometry provides us with examples of this ambivalence. It was first found in 1997 in atoms, which are made from an assembly of particles.

In a recent issue of Nature Max Planck researchers in Berlin, together with researchers from the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, California, report about a molecular double-slit experiment with electrons - not assemblies of particles, like atoms. Molecules with identical, and thus reflectively symmetrical, atoms, behave like a microscopically small double-slit built by nature. Nitrogen is one such molecule. In it, each electron - also the highly localised inner electrons - stays simultaneously in both atoms. If we ionise such a molecule with a weak x-ray, we end up with a coherent - that is, wavelike - strongly coupled electron emission from both atomic sides. This is just like a double slit experiment with single electrons.

For the first time, the researchers were able to show the coherent character of electron emissions from such a molecule, in this analogue to the double slit experiment. They used a weak x-ray to destabilise the innermost, and thus most strongly localised, electrons of nitrogen from the molecule, and then followed their movement in the molecular frame of reference using ion coincidence measurements. In addition, the researchers succeeded in proving something long doubted: that a disruption of the reflective symmetry of this molecule leads to a partial loss of coherence through the introduction of two different heavy isotopes, in this case N14 and N15. The electrons begin to localise partially on one of the two, now distinguishable, atoms. This is equivalent to partially marking one of the two slits in Young’s double slit experiment. This is partial "which way" information, because the marking gives information about which path the electron took.

The experiments were carried out by members of the working group "atomic physics" of the FHI at the synchrotron radiation laboratories BESSY in Berlin and HASYLAB at DESY in Hamburg. The measurements took place using a multi-detector array for combined electron and ion proof behind what are called undulator beam pipes, which deliver weak x-rays with a high intensity and spectral resolution.


[Lead paragraph, which seems like an abstract, so to make the article read smoother, I moved it to the end.]
In something akin to a double-slit experiment, scientists at the Fritz Haber Institute of the Max Planck Society, in co-operation with researchers from the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, California, have shown for the first time that electrons have characteristics of both waves and particles at the same time and in virtually the push of a button can be switched back and forth between these states. The researchers provided evidence that disrupting the reflective symmetry of these molecules by introducing two different heavy isotopes, in this case N14 and N15, leads to a partial loss of coherence. The electrons partially begin to localise on one of the two, now distinguishable, atoms. The results could have implications for the building and control of "artificial molecules", which are made of semiconductor quantum dots, and are a possible component of quantum computers. (Nature/i>, September 29, 2005).


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To: PatrickHenry

Thanks for the ping!


41 posted on 10/12/2005 6:46:06 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: PatrickHenry
This looks like a classic.

If I ever figure it out.

42 posted on 10/12/2005 6:52:05 AM PDT by VadeRetro (I'll have a few sleepless nights after I send you over, sure! But it'll pass.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I cannot begin to say what they have measured without some additional information.

Was there a difference in the number of electrons striking the target and the number of electrons emitted? That is a fairly easy thing to measure.

I would like to know if there was a difference with and without the 2nd slit being closed.

Passing a stream of electrons through a pair of closely spaced slits and seeing an interference pattern similar to light would not be surprising as within that stream each electron would have some small effect on any other electrons near it, possibly pushing them to the side enough to go through the 2nd slit. All of this I have had to deal with in color CRT (picture tubes) construction.

To believe what they are saying would require understanding how 100 electrons could be emitted, some or all passing through 2 slits at the same time. Seems we would for a moment have more than 100 electrons and where did they come from?

As far as the duality, never liked that word and they may have seen too many episodes of Star Trek TNG. Duality was Counselor Troy's favorite word. New age mumbo jumbo.

43 posted on 10/12/2005 6:52:08 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: R. Scott

You know, it's discussions (not the previous post specifically) like this that require the explanation of the postulates of quantum mechanics in the Freshman year of high school, instead of waiting to the sophmore/junior year for physics majors. Then we can just say that the electron is a quantum object and forget all of this wave/particle B.S.

The electron is a quantum system where the relative value of Planck's constant is large compared to the mutiplicand of momentum and distance. It is acting like a quantum system. We've had outstanding descriptions of this for the last 50 years. This experiment has done nothing but, once again, validate the accepted description for the umpteenth time. The electron is acting exactly like the math says it should. An electron is what it is and we can validate it's description down to 13 decimal places. There is no problem with independent reality here, and anyone who says there is is a COMPLETELY IGNORANT MORON!


44 posted on 10/12/2005 6:52:52 AM PDT by Netheron
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To: gridlock
Spelling correction: Heisenberg = Heisenberg.

You owe me two minutes of my life.

45 posted on 10/12/2005 6:54:09 AM PDT by VadeRetro (I'll have a few sleepless nights after I send you over, sure! But it'll pass.)
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To: Netheron
You know, it's discussions (not the previous post specifically) like this that require the explanation of the postulates of quantum mechanics in the Freshman year of high school, instead of waiting to the sophmore/junior year for physics majors. Then we can just say that the electron is a quantum object and forget all of this wave/particle B.S.

From what I have seen of high school textbooks, the atom is still described as being composed of three particles – with electrons orbiting around the nucleus like mini-solar systems.
I do like the use of “quantum object”. It keeps the reader from trying to visualize them as either a particle or wave. I’ll have to keep that term in mind.
46 posted on 10/12/2005 7:06:17 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: R. Scott

Yeah, they should put pictures of electron orbitals next to the solar system one and say that we'll show how to derive them after the student has learned some Calculus.

It really p****s me off when journalists, and especially textbook writers, go on about how weird and mysterious some physics concepts are when the actual concepts have been non-controversial for decades in the physics literature. I admit it could be strange to a novice, but don't leave the impression that a little more background won't cure the metaphysical vertigo. Doesn't anyone know that Newtonian mechanics was just as weird for most people back then as Quantum mechanics is now? Heck, once someone REALLY knows how to do Classical mechanics, Quantum mechanics is a very small extension.


47 posted on 10/12/2005 7:20:16 AM PDT by Netheron
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To: Gumlegs

"He's a real nowhere man..."


48 posted on 10/12/2005 7:26:36 AM PDT by furball4paws (One of the last Evil Geniuses, or the first of their return.)
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To: kanawa

I was gonna name such a particle a Kerrytron.


49 posted on 10/12/2005 7:27:27 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: PatrickHenry
Use spatial engineering. Take the space that the electron is in, copy it, then move it.

There you go.

50 posted on 10/12/2005 7:30:55 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Netheron

Like trying to explain a black hole to the average high school graduate – or journalist.


51 posted on 10/12/2005 7:32:40 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: PatrickHenry

There is only One Electron!


52 posted on 10/12/2005 7:51:08 AM PDT by hang 'em (Commies, Nazis, Muslims: enemies of the Constitution; ref. Das Kapital, Mein Kampf, Koran)
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To: PatrickHenry
Einstein suspected [PH: shouldn't that be "doubted"?] that natural characteristics actually depend on the observer.

It wasn't just Einstein. This idea goes way back.

53 posted on 10/12/2005 8:49:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: hang 'em
And this One Electron knows all about his possibilities to be at one place or another.

With helium atoms it is a little bit more strange. Especially then you know that you have an emission rate about 1 atom per second and you still get your interference behind a double-slit .
54 posted on 10/12/2005 8:57:03 AM PDT by MHalblaub (Tell me in four more years (No, I did not vote for Kerry))
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To: Netheron
"Quantum mechanics is a very small extension." Nice pun, that.

Although to be fair tunneling is a fairly non-classical phenomenon.

55 posted on 10/12/2005 10:23:48 AM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I still think Harriet should withdraw and evolution is bunk!


56 posted on 10/12/2005 10:25:12 AM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything!")
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bttt


57 posted on 10/12/2005 10:36:19 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Yes, the world does revolve around us. We picked the coordinate system.)
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To: Physicist
If an electron is in two places, it doesn't mean that there's no independent reality.

Agreed. People tend to try to read too much philosophy into the science of quantum mechanics. Wave-particle duality means just what it says; no explicit or implicit statements about "independent reality" lie within it.

58 posted on 10/12/2005 10:37:14 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: Netheron
Heck, once someone REALLY knows how to do Classical mechanics, Quantum mechanics is a very small extension.

That is true (and easier said than done). The big leap (IMO)is accepting the probablistic nature of the wave function; once you do that, most of the problem is statistical-mechanical in nature.

59 posted on 10/12/2005 10:40:21 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: kanawa

"The Kerry Effect"-------Zero + Zero= sumtin?


60 posted on 10/12/2005 10:56:16 AM PDT by litehaus
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