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Bird flu virus resistant to Tamiflu
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | October 14, 2005 | MALCOLM RITTER

Posted on 10/14/2005 4:34:28 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 10/14/2005 4:34:31 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
I've got mixed feelings about the H5N1 virus. I'm fascinated by it and somewhat frightened by it. Yet, I'm completely powerless to do anything about it if it becomes a human pandemic.

Does it make any difference whether I stick my head in the sand? I dunno.

2 posted on 10/14/2005 4:46:41 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: neverdem

The text contradicts the headline.


3 posted on 10/14/2005 4:46:46 PM PDT by Stirner
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To: Dog Gone

Me too:)


4 posted on 10/14/2005 4:49:33 PM PDT by SE Mom (Keep an open mind; nothing will fall out.)
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To: Dog Gone

Hope for a vaccine. The entire world population won't get vaccinated because of limited supplies. We have the trial lawyers to thank for driving most of the vaccine companies out of business in the U.S.. If not vaccinated, avoid crowds, contact with the ill and/or the public in general. If it happens, it won't be pretty.


5 posted on 10/14/2005 4:58:28 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot (Conservatism: doing what is right instead of what is easy)
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To: Dog Gone; Mother Abigail; Judith Anne

Wasn't there an article not to long ago that mentioned partial Tamiflu resistance?


6 posted on 10/14/2005 4:59:02 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
not too long ago
7 posted on 10/14/2005 5:02:04 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
The girl, who had been caring for an older brother with the disease, had been taking low doses of Tamiflu as a preventive measure when the virus was isolated in late February. She later got sick and was given higher doses. She recovered and left the hospital in March.

Good thing we're being kept right up to date on this, isn't it?

8 posted on 10/14/2005 5:02:50 PM PDT by pipecorp (Let's have a CRUSADE! , the muslims have already started. 1700 replies and not a single post!)
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To: Dog Gone

Instead of trying to find a human vaccine, they should be trying to come up with a vaccine for chickens and turkeys. It's more likely to wipe out our poultry industry than our human population, and if it mutates so that it can be easily transmitted from human to human, the vaccine they are working on now won't necessarily work.


9 posted on 10/14/2005 5:34:02 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: El Gato; JudyB1938; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Robert A. Cook, PE; lepton; LadyDoc; jb6; tiamat; PGalt; ..
Indian Company to Make Generic Version of Flu Drug Tamiflu

Europe's Avian Flu Experts Hold Crisis Talks

FReepmail me if you want on or off my health and science ping list. Anyone can post any unrelated link as they see fit.

10 posted on 10/14/2005 5:38:18 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: Dog Gone

There has been some blog chatter that the new 3M P100 or N100 masks could provide 100+ hours of protection. They are not expensive or hard to get at the moment. I bought a couple as a "just in case" measure. Even if the pandemic never happens I can always use one in my shop!


11 posted on 10/14/2005 5:40:24 PM PDT by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: neverdem
Wasn't there an article not to long ago that mentioned partial Tamiflu resistance?

Yes, but we're really all guessing at this point. Until the virus breaks through to sustained human to human transmission we can neither make a vaccine nor judge what drugs will be most effective against it.

The limited cases where humans have acquired this are too few to conduct any sort of clinical trial.

12 posted on 10/14/2005 5:49:13 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Here is a article for all it's worth.
(http://www.healingdaily.com/exercise/hydrogen-peroxide-in-ears.htm)
I have been using ( 3 % solution hydrogen peroxide ) in my ears for the last year and have not had a cold or flu at all ( put drops in each ear for about 5 to 10 mins , and let it drain out ( DO NOT GET HYDROGEN PEROXIDE IN YOUR EYES ).
I would advise to go seek a doctors advise before using hydrogen peroxide in your ears.
I did onetime had a infection or pimple in my ear, and when I put the hydrogen peroxide in my ear, there was this pain in my ear.
13 posted on 10/14/2005 6:00:08 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: neverdem

Perhaps some bio-engineering by the Chinese?


14 posted on 10/14/2005 6:11:07 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: Neoliberalnot

"Hope for a vaccine. The entire world population won't get vaccinated because of limited supplies. We have the trial lawyers to thank for driving most of the vaccine companies out of business in the U.S.. If not vaccinated, avoid crowds, contact with the ill and/or the public in general. If it happens, it won't be pretty."

Amen,


15 posted on 10/14/2005 6:36:43 PM PDT by HonestConservative (Bless our Servicemen!)
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To: neverdem

This bird flu sounds scary ... but so did "10,000+ dead" from hurricane Katrina. I pray this is media hype.


16 posted on 10/14/2005 6:46:28 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: Wiseghy
Yes, now is a good time to buy stocks in those companies who make those masks.
Those 3M masks might be in short supply if this bird/flu virus gets a hold of the worlds population.
Another thing that I buy are those sanitary handy wipes.
I use those handy wipes to wash/wipe my hands and face before I eat at a restaurant.
A good hygiene regiment will help, did you know that your heart can get infected from bacteria from infected teeth and gums ?

http://www.periocare.info/Search_Folder/periodontal_disease_and_heart_disease.htm.

Even your tooth brush is laden with bacteria, and when you brush your teeth with a tooth brush with bacteria on it, the bristles can cut into the skin on your gums, and that bacteria gets into your blood stream and goes right to your heart and major organs.
I put my tooth brush in a cup or glass of hydrogen peroxide before I brush my teeth to clean it, and when I go to brush my teeth, I run water over the brush to rinse out the hydrogen peroxide.
You can even gargle with hydrogen peroxide ( you still should get advise from a doctor or dentist before you do this )... you put about a cap full of peroxide in a cup, and dilute the peroxide with water, and swish it and gargle ( DO NOT SWOLLOW THE WATER AND PEROXIDE ) and spit it out, and rise your mouth thoroughly with water.
17 posted on 10/14/2005 7:54:32 PM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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To: manwiththehands

No it is Bush's fault.


18 posted on 10/14/2005 9:06:57 PM PDT by pterional
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To: Dog Gone; neverdem

My theory is that it's time to quit depriving myself of chocolate. Eat, drink and .....


19 posted on 10/14/2005 9:14:53 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US. http://www.lifeethics.org/www.lifeethics.org/index.html)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness

Unless other people blow their noses on your toothbrush or you use it to clean the toilet, why worry?


20 posted on 10/15/2005 1:46:43 AM PDT by drlevy88
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