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Mayor Blames Gangs for Anti-Nazi Violence
AP via Yahoo! ^ | October 15, 2005 | AP

Posted on 10/15/2005 3:25:34 PM PDT by Brilliant

TOLEDO, Ohio - A crowd that gathered to protest a neo-Nazi march Saturday turned violent, throwing baseball-sized rocks at police, vandalizing vehicles and stores, and setting fire to a neighborhood bar, authorities said.

Mayor Jack Ford blamed the rioting on gang members taking advantage of a volatile situation. He said he was declaring a state of emergency and setting an 8 p.m. curfew. He also ask the Highway Patrol for help.

"It's exactly what they wanted," Ford said of the group that planned the march, which was called off because of the rioting.

At least two dozen members of the National Socialist Movement, which calls itself "America's Nazi Party," had gathered at a city park just before noon and were to march under police protection. Organizers said they were demonstrating against black gangs they said were harassing white residents.

Violence broke out about one-quarter of a mile away along the planned march route.

About 150 police officers in helicopters and on horses and foot chased bands of youths throughout the afternoon. Officers wearing gas masks fired tear gas canisters and flash-bang devices designed to stun suspects, only to see the groups reappear nearby and resume throwing rocks and bottles. A group pounded on a convenience store and overturned vehicles. A fire was set in a nearby bar. At least six people were arrested.

Police Chief Mike Navarre said officers had a report of a man shot in the area, but they had not found a victim. No other injuries had been reported, Navarre said.

The mayor had appealed to residents the night before to ignore the march.

He said the city indicated it wouldn't give the Nazis a permit to march in the streets but couldn't stop them from marching on the sidewalks like other citizens.

When the rioting broke out, Ford tried negotiate with those involved, saying he would meet with them to discuss any grievances, but he said "they weren't interested in that."

He said they were mostly "gang members who had real or imagined grievances and took it as an opportunity to speak in their own way."

"I am disappointed that some folks who clearly are not strong citizens to begin with took this opportunity to make this statement," Ford said. "I was chagrined that there were obvious mothers and children in the crowd with them. Several intimated that they had guns."

Thomas Frisch, 76, said a large group of men destroyed the exterior of a gas station next to his home of 30 years.

"A whole big gang started to come in here. Next thing you know, they're jumping on the car. Then they overturned it. Then they started on the building, breaking windows, ripping the bars off," he said.

Keith White, a black resident, criticized city officials for initially allowing the march.

"They let them come here and expect this not to happen?" said White, 29.


TOPICS: US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 1984; fascists; firstamendment; gang; gangbangers; hailthekommissar; jackford; mayor; nazi; neonazi; riot; toledo; toledoriot; truenazis; urbanbarbarians
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Sounds like gangs are a bigger problem than Nazis in Toledo.

"Keith White, a black resident, criticized city officials for initially allowing the march..."

He needs to register his complaint with the ACLU and the federal courts. They are the ones who say that Nazis have a Constitutional right to conduct these marches.

1 posted on 10/15/2005 3:25:35 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Brilliant

"They are the ones who say that Nazis have a Constitutional right to conduct these marches."

Actually, I think it's the 1st Amendment, not the ACLU. I don't like it either but it's legal.


2 posted on 10/15/2005 3:30:49 PM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: Brilliant

The Nazis were only an excuse for the looting and violence, period. Most of the gang members probably don't even know what a Nazi is/was. No one likes what the Nazis say, but like Louis Farakkhan, they have a right to free speech even if they are idiots.


3 posted on 10/15/2005 3:35:14 PM PDT by TommyDale (I'm not schizophrenic, and neither am I...)
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To: Brilliant
"...Ford tried negotiate with those involved, saying he would meet with them to discuss any grievances..."

WHat an idiot... Gotta be a stinkin liberal...
4 posted on 10/15/2005 3:38:17 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: TommyDale

Y'all can speak so forthrightly against the National Socialist German Workers' party but get all mealy mouthed about the American socialist party and their democrat useful fools. Hate socialists of any stripe!


5 posted on 10/15/2005 3:40:37 PM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Brilliant
The gangs got played, big time. They were the Nazi's B*tches today. Hope they're proud.
6 posted on 10/15/2005 3:40:47 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Brilliant
This is BS!!

Everyone knows that this can happen in almost any inner-city Black neighborhood in America.

All that is needed is an excuse to gather.

Black leaders here complain that businesses will not build in Black neighborhoods, not even grocery stores. I wonder why?

7 posted on 10/15/2005 3:45:32 PM PDT by blam
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To: Brilliant

WTOL-Toledo reports: "The Nazi marchers got in their cars and left, while the counter-protesters took over several city streets, growing more and more irate. Mayor Jack Ford says he went into the crowd with several city leaders to try to diffuse the situation. In a late-afternoon news conference, Ford said he was confronted in that crowd by gang members who had what he called 'long-standing grievances.'"

Long after the "at least two dozen" nazis left town, video shows a store being vandalized, an apartment being broken into, a parked NBC newsvan being vandalized, and (dead-serious) a paramedic vehicle being barraged by bricks and rocks thrown by rioters. Can't think of a better way to respond to bunch of idiots who (ironically enough) were marching against........BLACK CRIME!


10 posted on 10/15/2005 3:53:19 PM PDT by zaxxon
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I hate Nazis. Scum of the Earth is what they are. If they marched in my neighborhood I'd throw whatever I could at 'em myself.


11 posted on 10/15/2005 3:57:12 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: kevinjdeanna

Likely. That's the saddest part of this story. Since their rep is already rock bottom, and it can't possibly get any worse, this is just good publicity for them. Get a few new moron recruits to shave their heads, wear swastikas and yell 'heil' while engaging in a small basement Nazi party circle-jerk.


12 posted on 10/15/2005 3:57:15 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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To: Brilliant
Say what you want about the "nazi's" but in a few years we will wish we had an enemy with as much civility as them.
Think Japanese fanaticism and the Muslim/black/Hispanic disregard for anything at all.
just saying......... At least the Nazi's could keep water running and power and clean streets.....while killing...
13 posted on 10/15/2005 4:03:40 PM PDT by viper_disorder
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Damned socialists are to blamed:

A, O, OH, WAY TO GO OHIO! (left wing organizations takes pride in Toldeo riot)

14 posted on 10/15/2005 4:05:00 PM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: Prodigal Son

Vigilantism is no answer. I have no use for Louis Farrakhan's racist hate filled rantings either. He incites some followers to violence.

Weren't the DC sniper duo followers?


15 posted on 10/15/2005 4:07:58 PM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: StillProud2BeFree; Calpernia; Velveeta; DAVEY CROCKETT; Alabama MOM; Shadow5644; Pepper777; ...

Radio news has Toledo under curfew now.

A sad glimpse of life in America, New Orleans style.


16 posted on 10/15/2005 4:13:37 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny (You say that you have prayed about your problem! Now, shut up and listen to God's answer.)
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To: Brilliant

It looks to me that the black gangs made the point for the Nazi's. Next time they might want to formally invite the gangs along to demonstrate the kinds of behavior the Nazi's claim is the trademark of the black community.


17 posted on 10/15/2005 4:38:17 PM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: Brilliant

Keith White, a black resident, criticized city officials for initially allowing the march.

"They let them come here and expect this not to happen?" said White, 29

YEA how dare they allow free speech and expect people to be able to voice disdain without ripping off somebodys tv


18 posted on 10/15/2005 4:49:33 PM PDT by skaterboy (Be good)
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To: Brilliant

"Sounds like gangs are a bigger problem"

ya think? Maybe


19 posted on 10/15/2005 4:54:37 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: Prodigal Son
If they marched in my neighborhood I'd throw whatever I could at 'em myself.

Does you action include ransacking gas stations and convenience stores in your neighbor
20 posted on 10/15/2005 4:56:47 PM PDT by uncbob
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