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Chinese Scientists Unearth 4,000-Year-Old Noodle Dish (Suggests Pasta Invented In China)
KTVU ^ | October 13, 2005

Posted on 10/15/2005 3:55:18 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Ancient Finding Suggests Pasta Invented In China

BEIJING -- Who invented noodles first?

A discovery in western China could bolster the argument that the Chinese came up with pasta before the the Italians.

Researchers have found a 4,000-year-old clump of yellow noodles inside an overturned bowl in China. The noodles had been made from a dough of two local varieties of millet. The bowl had become sealed with clay, so the noodles were preserved.

The findings are published in this week's issue of the journal Nature. A Chinese researcher said they're definitely the earliest noodles ever found.

The researcher said the Chinese and Italians have always been at odds over who invented noodles, but said the disagreements were always based on personal accounts and menus -- not actual material like this.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: archaeology; chinaitaly; food; godsgravesglyphs; grain; history; millet; noodles
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Culinary archaeology: Millet noodles in Late Neolithic China (Nature article)
1 posted on 10/15/2005 3:55:19 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: SunkenCiv; carlo3b; blam; Fiddlstix

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2 posted on 10/15/2005 3:56:10 PM PDT by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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The Chinese seem to do an awful lot of digging. Every few days they come up with some new discovery proving a new aspect of their prowess. Almost any day now, they'll dig up an Atlas 5 and declare that they had one in 1782 BC.


3 posted on 10/15/2005 3:57:43 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne

They will find a bottle of liquid Prell next to the skeleton of a trilobite.


4 posted on 10/15/2005 3:59:27 PM PDT by calrighty ( Terrorists are like cockroaches . Kill em all soon!!)
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To: nickcarraway
Chinese came up with pasta before the the Italians.

I've never heard any different.

5 posted on 10/15/2005 4:00:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: DoughtyOne; nickcarraway

Actually, it's been thought by food historians for some time that pasta originated in China. It may have been brought back in the relatively recent past by Marco Polo, or it may have been something that was known to Italians from older Silk Road contacts with the Orient.


6 posted on 10/15/2005 4:00:55 PM PDT by livius
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To: nickcarraway

In fact -- it was Marco Polo who brought noodles (noodle 'technology') back to Italy.


7 posted on 10/15/2005 4:01:40 PM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: BenLurkin

I have learn about Marco Polo all my life. I'm 51 now. Nothing new here.


8 posted on 10/15/2005 4:02:10 PM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: calrighty

LOL, could be.

BTW, I thought it was gigabyte. Oh well...


9 posted on 10/15/2005 4:02:22 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: nickcarraway

That's not all. They also found one of those white take-out cartons with the little metal wire holder next to the noodles!


10 posted on 10/15/2005 4:03:38 PM PDT by Brofholdonow
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To: DoughtyOne

: )


11 posted on 10/15/2005 4:03:45 PM PDT by calrighty ( Terrorists are like cockroaches . Kill em all soon!!)
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To: nickcarraway
Previous thread with a more informative article on the same topic here (with pictures).
12 posted on 10/15/2005 4:04:18 PM PDT by Ichneumon (Certified pedantic coxcomb)
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Now they just need to dig up a 4000 year-old Suffering Bastard.


13 posted on 10/15/2005 4:06:54 PM PDT by Ruddles
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Oldest Noodles Unearthed In China
14 posted on 10/15/2005 4:06:57 PM PDT by blam
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To: livius

I do agree with that. It is still rather comical to watch the blurbs coming out of China at about two to four week intervals.


15 posted on 10/15/2005 4:07:09 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: livius

The Italians didn't invent pasta, they just perfected it.


16 posted on 10/15/2005 4:09:13 PM PDT by PeoplesRepublicOfWashington (Washington State--Land of Court-approved Voting Fraud.)
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To: DoughtyOne
The Chinese seem to do an awful lot of digging. Every few days they come up with some new discovery proving a new aspect of their prowess. Almost any day now, they'll dig up an Atlas 5 and declare that they had one in 1782 BC.

They even acknowledge that there were "white" civilizations, that is, European types (as we were all out of Africa at once time) on their western borders.
The graves dug up were in the thousands....very well preserved. Even the color of the hair was still evident -- red hair.

They do like to dig, don't they?

17 posted on 10/15/2005 4:09:59 PM PDT by starfish923 (It's never right to do wrong. Socrates)
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Let's not foget that he also brought back the recipe for "gelate" from the Arabian lands. Snow was brought from the mountains, mixed with milk and ice milk was born. Marco Polo brought this home along with the noodles but lasagna and ziti are definitely Italian inspired improvements. When the Italians learned this recipe they developed gelate, ice cream and lemon ice!!!

Pst...pizza was invented as a dish for the poor not the pine apple, chicken, steak, and other ingredients which pollute my tomato pie!!!!

18 posted on 10/15/2005 4:10:18 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: starfish923

Gotta keep those 1.3 billion people busy doing something.


19 posted on 10/15/2005 4:17:07 PM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: nickcarraway

Damn those commies. First the Russians invented the Hot Dog and Baseball and now this. But I'll bet those "Chinese Finger-cuffs" were invented in Brooklyn.


20 posted on 10/15/2005 4:17:16 PM PDT by fat city ("The nation that controls magnetism controls the world.")
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