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White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio (ABC & AP caught red-handed in a lie)
ABC NEWS ^ | October 16,2005 | JOHN SEEWER

Posted on 10/16/2005 6:19:00 AM PDT by Jonah Johansen

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To: Skooz
WHAT???????? Didn't the Jews know they were supposed to riot, loot and destroy property to express their "outrage?"

:-)
No, them Skokie joooos are smarter than that.

In fact, as usually happens when the 'Nazis' march and are rightfully ignored, there's more cops than Nazis and the odd curious onlooker.

51 posted on 10/16/2005 6:44:53 AM PDT by Condor51 (Leftists are moral and intellectual parasites - Standing Wolf)
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To: Drew68

They just can't bring themselves to say "Black protestors riot".



Nothing like not facing reality. Sheesh.


52 posted on 10/16/2005 6:45:48 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Recon Dad

"Could this be another case of FEMA letting us down again? Oh, I really thought I was watching the Million More March."

I thought the same thing. It looked like there were more blacks at the riots than at the million more march. I guess rioting is worth the effort of getting out of bed.


53 posted on 10/16/2005 6:46:41 AM PDT by Ez2BRepub
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To: Jonah Johansen

Saturday night in Toledo, Ohio is like being nowhere at all.
All through the day how the hours rush by, you sit in the park and you watch the grass die.

Ah, but after the sunset, the dusk and the twilight, when shadows of night start to fall.
They roll back the sidewalk precisely at ten and people who live there are not seen again.

Just two lonely truckers from Great Falls, Montana and a salesman from places unknown
all huddled together in downtown, Toledo to spend their big night all alone.

You ask how I know of Toledo, Ohio? Well I spent a week there one day.
They've got entertainment to dazzle your eyes: go visit the bakery and watch the buns rise.

Ah, but let's not forget that the folks of Toledo unselfishly gave us the scale.
No springs, honest weight, that's the promise they made,
so smile and be thankful next time you get weighed.

And "wive and wet wive", let this be our motto, let's let the sleeping dogs lie.
And here's to the dogs of Toledo, Ohio, ladies, we bid you goodbye.

Words and music by randy sparkes


54 posted on 10/16/2005 6:47:13 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Skooz
The ABC headline still reads: "White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio."

ABC News just updated it as well. I'm sure there were cries in the newsroom of, "Do we haaaaave to?"

55 posted on 10/16/2005 6:47:44 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Jonah Johansen
What is surprising it that they didn't use some sort of computer animation to insert white people into the mob.
56 posted on 10/16/2005 6:49:35 AM PDT by Gator61
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To: BooksForTheRight.com

As soon as I read these words

"...when he and a local minister tried to calm the rioters Saturday, they were cursed and a masked gang member threatened to shoot him."

I knew that it wasn't the "white supremacists" who did it!

What about the black supremacists who massed in Washington DC Saturday? Why no news about their hatred for the USA?


57 posted on 10/16/2005 6:49:35 AM PDT by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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To: Jonah Johansen
On CNN.com, there's a story in which a CNN photographer explains the riots. You see, the police caused the problem by making arrests.

Brian Jagodzinski, chief news photographer for CNN affiliate WTVG is quoted as saying: "The crowd was very ... extremely agitated at the police ... for doing this [making arrests in] the community when they should be doing this to the Nazis," Jagodzinski said.

Here's the link: CNN spins

58 posted on 10/16/2005 6:49:47 AM PDT by RedRover
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To: TheForceOfOne

>> The title should read "Thugs, Gang members, and White Supremacists battle for control of our streets"

By all accounts I've seen, the white supremicists were back in their hotel rooms patting themselves on the back for so effectively getting their message out. They didn't even march.

The battle for the streets was between the cops and the (nearly all) black thugs.


59 posted on 10/16/2005 6:52:32 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Jonah Johansen

Wow, I guess that the first casualty of this incident was the truth....


60 posted on 10/16/2005 6:54:26 AM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: Jonah Johansen
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61 posted on 10/16/2005 6:54:49 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: Drew68

"They just updated it to: "Anti-White Supremacist Protesters Riot""

I take screenshots just for future proof, I got one of the original.

Cheers


62 posted on 10/16/2005 6:55:32 AM PDT by theymakemesick (Sept 11th was perpetrated by GOOD MUSLIMS www.prophetofdoom.com)
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To: Jonah Johansen
On the page you linked to there is a link to this page, with what is seemingly the opposite headline, and the same story. WT?
63 posted on 10/16/2005 6:55:47 AM PDT by savedbygrace ("No Monday morning quarterback has ever led a team to victory" GW Bush)
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To: Condor51

I hope Eric Burns exposes this on "Fox Watch" next Saturday.


64 posted on 10/16/2005 6:57:15 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: BooksForTheRight.com; briansb; MAK1179
Reference:  US/wireStory?id=1220242 -
White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio
Mayor of Toledo, Ohio, Declares Emergency, Sets Curfew After Hundreds of White Supremacists Riot
By JOHN SEEWER Associated Press Writer
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=1220242 
Dear Sirs:
The biased spin is never more apparent than when ABC actually changes the headline and the by-line on a story to make it say exactly the OPPOSITE of what really happened when the facts and circumstances fail to align with your world view.   To be fair,  I suppose it might be possible that the Associated Press and Mr. John Seewer may have actually edited their story after your ABC online version was posted, but if this is the case, then you owe your readers a corrected version and the grossly inaccurate version linked above should be retracted and a published correction put out there.
 
When I search other internet news sites and then go directly to the AP website,  I find only stories which tell the reverse of what your misleading ABC headline reports.   Two examples:
Oct 16, 9:31 AM EDT
Anti-White Supremacist Protesters Riot


TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) -- Protesters at a white supremacists' march threw rocks at police, vandalized vehicles and stores and cursed the mayor for allowing the event.http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NAZI_MARCH?SITE=OHDEF&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&SECTION=HOME
 
Anti-White Supremacist Protesters Riot


TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) -- Protesters at a white supremacists' march
I am also watching the reports of this event on television right now and the video from Toledo shows a VERY different story then your ABC headlines would imply.  While there may have been a bit of 'violence' from both ends (marchers and protesters), the RIOTING was very clearly the work of people protesting the marchers...  Facts are:  "White Supremacists"   did NOT "Riot in Toledo, Ohio"  and your headline in your ABC online story is not even simply a different perspective on the story.  Your headline is a lie and an attempt to tell the story as you wish it had happened.   This is unforgiveable for any serious news organization.
 
This type of reporting is VERY disturbing and upsetting.  There is no excuse for this behavior and with the by-line in addition to the headline, it is obvious that this is NOT a simple typographical error where the word "anti" was inadvertently left out.
 
Do the right thing here and correct your story.  Do it publicly and do it loudly.  You have sinned against journalism.
 
Best regards,
xxxxxx
xxxxx, Connecticut

65 posted on 10/16/2005 6:57:21 AM PDT by Lloyd227
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To: GOP_Proud

Spewage....all over the monitor!


66 posted on 10/16/2005 6:57:43 AM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: savedbygrace; Jonah Johansen

Somebody woke up and figured out they couldn't get away with the original headline.

I have a nice screen shot of the original ABC page, with the "White Supremecists Riot" headline, and the "Curfew after hundreds of white supremecists riot" sub-head, as I figured it would get changed.


67 posted on 10/16/2005 6:59:59 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: RedRover

"He also blamed gang members for the violence, saying it turned into "exactly what they wanted," referring to the Nazi group."

He's exactly right


68 posted on 10/16/2005 7:00:29 AM PDT by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR) [there's a lot of bad people in the pistachio business])
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To: theymakemesick

Yep. See my previous.


69 posted on 10/16/2005 7:00:47 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: paudio
"Will the ACLU come out to defend the rights of the white supremacists to voice their opinion?"

They actually did once in Skokie Illinois, but that was a very long time ago.

70 posted on 10/16/2005 7:00:48 AM PDT by Hoof Hearted
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To: Lloyd227
GOOD FOR YOU! Thanks!

Stoopid MSM. Liberal tricks are for kids.

71 posted on 10/16/2005 7:00:54 AM PDT by add925 (The Left = Xenophobes in Denial)
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To: Jonah Johansen
This wasn't the only politically loaded distortion on the ABC site this morning. See "U.S. Military Deaths in War with Iraq", implying that the enemy is Iraq in general. By extension, this endorses the head-choppers' claim that they alone represent legitimate authority in Iraq. Old lefty trick.
72 posted on 10/16/2005 7:02:13 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Islamo-terrorists: Strike force of the MSM)
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To: RedRover
Reminds me of a clueless parent watching their 2yr old pitching a ring-tailed fit, tearing up the living room and saying...

"Oh look how well he expresses himself. We really shouldn't have left those breakables out where they got in his way."

73 posted on 10/16/2005 7:02:18 AM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: FreedomPoster
"I have a nice screen shot of the original ABC page...

The original lying headline is still posted here: White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio

74 posted on 10/16/2005 7:02:55 AM PDT by Lloyd227
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To: pageonetoo
They were mostly "gang members who had real or imagined grievances and took it as an opportunity to speak in their own way," Ford said. "I was chagrined that there were obvious mothers and children in the crowd with them," he said.

The mothers were talking to their children as they were looting and burning the neighborhood bar, they were saying "grab me a bottle of gin".

75 posted on 10/16/2005 7:04:07 AM PDT by metalurgist (Death to the democrats! They're almost the same as communists, they just move a little slower.)
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To: Lloyd227

Amazing, I thought it had been changed, from some of the other posts. I guess that must just be the AP/Yahoo headline, that had been changed.

ABC is stuck on stupid, but we already knew that.


76 posted on 10/16/2005 7:06:25 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Jonah Johansen

Here is the headline showing ABC's brilliant journalism/propaganda. Please make ABC news aware of your concern over this misreporting of the news. Contact ABC News at:

http://Support@abcnews.go.com

77 posted on 10/16/2005 7:06:25 AM PDT by Huber (It is time for the emergence of a strong Conservative leader!)
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78 posted on 10/16/2005 7:10:17 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: Huber

Has there been a more BLATANTLY dishonest headline from a major MSM outlet? This is truly mind-boggling, and I'm glad we all have seen it and c/p it before they take it down.

Perception is reality.


79 posted on 10/16/2005 7:10:18 AM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: Jonah Johansen

Sorry,but white supremacists DID NOT RIOT!They were invited in by people who were being victimized by black gangs and the neo-nazis were proven right because the police stopped their demonstration and the black gangs(caught on tape)were showing this to be so by creating an air of hatred,vandalism,theft and voilence.


80 posted on 10/16/2005 7:10:41 AM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Jonah Johansen

bump


81 posted on 10/16/2005 7:12:16 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (also enjoy the occasional kick of a puppy.)
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To: Jonah Johansen
White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio

Think Clinton.

Notice that there is no apostrophe in "supremacists." Therefore it is not their riot, by them. It is a riot about them. It's like when they talk about draft riots or food riots. It's not the food or the draft that is rioting. That is the subject of the riot.

Of course, you know the reason they worded it this way was to convey the false information that it was WS who were throwing rocks and attacking police.

Accurate, but a lie.

82 posted on 10/16/2005 7:14:11 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: Drew68
That's odd.

This ABC page still has the headline: "White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio,"

With the subtitle "Mayor of Toledo, Ohio, Declares Emergency, Sets Curfew After Hundreds of White Supremacists Riot."

83 posted on 10/16/2005 7:17:20 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Jonah Johansen
LOL - bump -

Bozos.

84 posted on 10/16/2005 7:20:04 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Skooz
That's odd.

I just noticed that as well. Interestingly enough, in their "other news" section they have the exact same story with the more accurate headline.

85 posted on 10/16/2005 7:21:26 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Phsstpok
Accurate, but a lie.

So what do they call when the KKK riots, "Black guys riot" ?

That's where your logic takes it.

86 posted on 10/16/2005 7:21:50 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jonah Johansen
Note how it is impossible to distinguish anything about the perps on the one photo they use:

Could be "White Supremacists," you know.

87 posted on 10/16/2005 7:22:16 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Drew68

Yeah. They have two pages with the same story but different headlines.


88 posted on 10/16/2005 7:23:00 AM PDT by Skooz ("Political Correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism" - Michelle Malkin)
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To: Jonah Johansen
Yahoos headline reads, "Anti-White Supremacists March"

Apparently they were not black rioters, they were anti-white. All the difference in the world.

89 posted on 10/16/2005 7:25:10 AM PDT by Bear_Slayer
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To: Cboldt

Wow. Even high school english is beyond you.

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90 posted on 10/16/2005 7:26:26 AM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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To: DogBarkTree
That video shot was the best refutation of Agenda 21 and "Smart Growth" I have seen in a long time.

Would anyone like to live in a high rise with those (warning...self-censor activated...warning)?.
91 posted on 10/16/2005 7:26:41 AM PDT by cgbg (Do you believe your lying eyes?)
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To: Jonah Johansen

Now it says "Anti-White Supremacists Riot..." and yet they don't indicate a correction was made. I guess they got caught and want to white-wash their bias.


92 posted on 10/16/2005 7:27:50 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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To: Lloyd227

Nice job!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's VERY difficult to make the Nazi look good, yet the Toledo blacks just did that. I have to say I admire them for doing that. I'll never have enough "courage" to do it.


93 posted on 10/16/2005 7:28:07 AM PDT by ConservativeChinese (I'm a Chinese, no affirmative action needed, thank you.)
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To: Little Pig
"They just can't bring themselves to say "Black protestors riot". Nothing like not facing reality. Sheesh."

Exactly what I was thinking..........

94 posted on 10/16/2005 7:28:21 AM PDT by texianyankee
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To: Jonah Johansen
I wonder if I could sue the newspaper for such an erroneous lie, if I had run in fear from the Nazis to the safety of the black group where I got mugged and vandalized.
95 posted on 10/16/2005 7:29:33 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: Jonah Johansen

How dare you question the objectivity of the MSM!

You're supposed to carry over your suspension of disbelief from the cheesy network dramas to the cheesy network 'news'.

The networks would never lie to you - they hold a public trust. False but accurate - that's the new truth!


96 posted on 10/16/2005 7:29:36 AM PDT by headsonpikes (The Liberal Party of Canada are not b*stards - b*stards have mothers!)
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To: Phsstpok
Wow. Even high school english is beyond you.

Supremacists is plural. Guys is plural. "Guys riot" is ambiguous at worst, and is usually taken as a number of guys were in the riot. "Supremamcists riot" likewise.

Your argument is lame, and your defense was nothing but a personal attack, which proves the point that your argument is lame.

97 posted on 10/16/2005 7:31:28 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Jonah Johansen
wow! what an f-ing disgrace. I'm about to email Michelle Malkin, etc. to get the word out. This is a scandal and must be treated as such... By the way, you left out the sub headline, the full headline at ABC is:
"White Supremacists Riot in Toledo, Ohio"
Mayor of Toledo, Ohio, Declares Emergency, Sets Curfew After Hundreds of White Supremacists Riot"

Having that included adds to the lie and makes it even more outrageous... Interestingly, the AP seems to have tried to correct it, while ABC seems to be hangin' tough... here's the link to the same article at the AP, with a different headline, and minus the sub-headline:
"Anti-white supremacist protesters riot"
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NAZI_MARCH?SITE=TXCOR&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&SECTION=HOME

However you can find it still with the original headline here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051016/ap_on_re_us/nazi_march_20

Here's the yahoo and google news searches of "White Supremacists Riot in Toledo".

Anyway, I suggest we bombard the major bloggers with emails about this. We can make this a story and at least deal a big blow tomorrow when John Gibson and some others perhaps mention it.. But the issue will need to be pushed by us.
98 posted on 10/16/2005 7:32:25 AM PDT by rabair (Religion of Peace Strikes Again.... Sprinkling Peace Shrapnel All Over the World!")
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To: Skooz
Note how it is impossible to distinguish anything about the perps on the one photo they use:

I've noticed on some of those "Cops"-type TV shows that the producers are often using a green "race-filter" over the perps face. Back in the day, they would pixilate the faces of the perps (who hadn't gone to trial) but you could still tell what race they were. Now they use a fuzzy, green filter over the suspect's skin (unless the suspect is white, then they don't bother covering his skin up).

99 posted on 10/16/2005 7:35:19 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: DogBarkTree
Not that I like the Nazi b@stards but the video I saw showed a different story. That video shot from the helicopter of the anmials kicking in that door served as a good reason to have a gun. THe owner would have only had to fire a couple of shots thru the door to disperse that mob of mutts real quick.

The LA "Rodney King" riot was my wake up call. Wife got me a shotgun as a birthday present that year

Anybody who doesn't own at least one firearm, with at least a thousand rounds of ammo, is a fool

100 posted on 10/16/2005 7:35:33 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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