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OU student left suicide message
The Oklahoman ^ | Sun October 16, 2005 | Nolan Clay

Posted on 10/16/2005 11:02:43 AM PDT by MizSterious

Sun October 16, 2005
OU student left suicide message

By Nolan Clay
The Oklahoman

NORMAN - The University of Oklahoma student who died in an explosion Oct. 1 left a message on his computer that he was going to quit living, his father said.

The FBI read the message to the father Friday, after he came to Oklahoma to clear out his son's university-owned apartment.

Joel "Joe" Henry Hinrichs III, an engineering student, died when his bomb went off about 100 yards from the packed football stadium during the second quarter of OU's night game against Kansas State.

Hinrichs, 21, was from Colorado Springs, Colo. He had a reputation as a loner and had struggled at times with his grades. His parents had begun divorce proceedings.

Joel Hinrichs Jr. said he understood investigators found the message on the computer screen when they arrived at the apartment.

"It was a single line of text on his computer," said the father, who lives in Colorado Springs. "The cursor was still blinking at the end."

The father said he could not recall the exact wording but said his son used profanity in the message and was obviously very angry. "He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living," the father said.

His description of the message is consistent with the recollection of others who have been briefed about the investigation by the FBI.

No links to terrorist groups

FBI officials have said they may never know whether the student wanted to get inside the stadium. The student did not have a season ticket.

FBI officials also have said the investigation has not found any links between the student and terrorist organizations.

His father said he thinks his son was just committing suicide and never intended to hurt anyone else.

The father said the FBI on Friday showed him the fractured bench where his son was sitting when the bomb exploded and photos of his son's headless body and a tattered backpack.

The father said when cleaning out the apartment, he learned his son apparently had been having trouble sleeping and had bought Sominex, a sleep aid.

The younger Hinrichs had a long fascination with ammunition and bombs, his relatives and friends said. Inside his bedroom in Norman were several used metal artillery shells -- the largest about 2 feet long. He had belts of used brass shell casings, a box of spent bullets and military ammo containers.

He also had items more typical of many college students -- textbooks, empty liquor bottles, magazines and a martial arts movie videotape.

The father allowed two reporters from The Oklahoman into the bedroom briefly Thursday.

Bomb experts removed explosive-related materials from the apartment Oct. 2. Contributing: Randy Ellis


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Oklahoma
KEYWORDS: batf; bomb; cia; fakesuicidenote; fbi; hinrichs; homelandsecurity; normanbombing; normanbomer; ou; oubomber; oubombing; waronterror
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To: MizSterious

41 posted on 10/16/2005 11:34:49 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: F15Eagle

Thank you for posting that. For some reason the curser blinking at the end thing made me think of dramatic effect.
I think you hit the nail on the head.
susie


42 posted on 10/16/2005 11:35:51 AM PDT by brytlea (All you need as ID to vote in FL is your Costco card...)
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To: digitalbrownshirt

To be clear, there are exceptions. I was over-generalizing. There were natives who had good scholarships, and foreigners who paid, but for the most part foreigners paid very little, while natives paid full or close to full in-state tuition.


43 posted on 10/16/2005 11:36:01 AM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: MizSterious

WHAT situatiion? War in Iraq? Islamic oppression? Bush as President? This guy's inability to get a date? His failing courses?

WHAT situation?


44 posted on 10/16/2005 11:39:26 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: MizSterious
You are correct. The first statements were that no suicide note was found, now we have a suicide note on a computer.

If the computer was not locked down could the roommate or someone else have written the suicide note on an open keyboard?

To those who will reply to this post that FReepers who question the official line(s) are all conspiracy theorists, remember there were first hand accounts on that initial thread which indicated explosives being heard around a stadium.

Unless, of course, one believes that a typical American youth would commit suicide by sitting outside a stadium with explosives in a backpack and not with guns, knives, pills, bridge jumping or a car crash.
45 posted on 10/16/2005 11:41:52 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: MizSterious
The elder Hinrichs, of Colorado Springs, said he could not recall the exact wording but said his son used profanity in the message and was obviously very angry.

"He wrote he was dissatisfied with the situation and was going to quit living," the father said.


"Very angry" and "dissatisfied" with what "situation?"
46 posted on 10/16/2005 11:42:13 AM PDT by maggief
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To: Certain_Doom
How dare they?!? Any evidence contrary to conspiracy is spin!

I for one do not trust the FBI of the ATF. Their record in matters such as Ruby Ridge, Waco and the OKC bombing is not exactly stellar.

One point to consider. Now there is no reason for the search warrant to remain sealed.
47 posted on 10/16/2005 11:42:25 AM PDT by Burf (We'll all be drinkin that free Bubble Up and eatin that Rainbow Stew.)
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To: F15Eagle

Yes, verified. Clerk interviewed on camera, everything.

Since most software doesn't have a blinking cursor, I'm at a loss about that one. Either they made it up, or he was using DOS--funny way to write a "suicide" note, eh?


48 posted on 10/16/2005 11:43:09 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious

Who announced it - the MSM? I didn't see or hear a FBI news conference, did I miss it?


49 posted on 10/16/2005 11:44:37 AM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (A right wing Christian, not part of the Christian Right)
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To: weegee

What situation indeed. It still bothers me about the blinking cursor, makes the whole thing sound like a big, fat lie.


50 posted on 10/16/2005 11:45:12 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious
empty liquor bottles, magazines

On a TV episode of "Insomniac with Dave Attell" Dave followed around a guy who's job is to clean up suicide messes. The clean up guy noted that at every suicide there are always liquor bottles and porn magazines.

51 posted on 10/16/2005 11:45:32 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: MizSterious

*** The father said he could not recall the exact wording ...***

I'm afraid it would be burned forever in my brian.


52 posted on 10/16/2005 11:45:40 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: TWohlford

The suicide note of Charles Bishop (Bishra) was suppressed for months after he flew a plane into a bank builing.

Remember the Tampa teen? He was supposedly made crazy by his pimple cream? He was supposedly a member of the Young Conservatives?

Then his note calls his act as terrorist act. He pledges his support ot Osama Bin Laden and he praises the 9-11 attacks.

That may not be so in this incident. Jury is still out. So are the facts.

There were naysayers in January 2002 denying the obvious.

No one has SAID this man was an Islamic terrorist. He certainly had a questionable fascination with explosives.

He treading the same geographical territory as Nick Berg and the 19th Hijacker (who crossed paths).

But let's all agree that he went out of his way to make a highly visible suicide (and made an attempt to buy something that would have done FAR more damage, as was done in OKC years ago).


53 posted on 10/16/2005 11:46:32 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon

All of our local news, television especially. I don't recall the FBI ever giving a news conference on this. However, we do know that the search warrant for Hinrich's apartment is still sealed.


54 posted on 10/16/2005 11:46:37 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious

Microsoft Word has a blinking cursor.


55 posted on 10/16/2005 11:46:59 AM PDT by i_dont_chat (Houston, TX)
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To: brytlea

That's what I'm saying, yes. Don't put it past anyone (even the FBI) not to forge such a "suicide note". It's worthless.


56 posted on 10/16/2005 11:47:53 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: maggief

If I had to guess, if the note was actually there, it probably went something like, "someone has to kill the (bleeping) infidels, and I'm going to blow myself up and take a bunch of them with me." Or is that more than one line? ;)


57 posted on 10/16/2005 11:48:03 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: MizSterious

It is a very cinematic description of the scene.

Even Roger Ebert has compiled it in his book of movis-ism. It is still seen today even when it is not the common method of text editing anymore.


58 posted on 10/16/2005 11:49:55 AM PDT by weegee (The lesson from New Orleans? Smart Growth kills. You can't evacuate dense populations easily.)
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To: MizSterious
Its "Google Goggles," and they come in many colors!
?8^)
59 posted on 10/16/2005 11:50:44 AM PDT by hummingbird (21st Century Newsreporting - "Don't get me started!")
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To: MizSterious

Classic, classic spin. I'm amazed they still use the outline. I think that is CYA Form 787. Just type in the name. The rest is pre-printed.


60 posted on 10/16/2005 11:50:57 AM PDT by Eastbound
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