Posted on 10/17/2005 8:21:48 PM PDT by neverdem
RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil, Oct 14 (Reuters) - Dire campaign ads warning that Brazilians could be made defenseless against any Nazi-like tyranny have not budged Lourdes Lima in her plan to vote to ban gun sales in a national referendum.
"I'm sick and tired of guns, we see them or hear them every day. I made up my mind and will vote to ban them," the 54-year-old street sweeper said, crumpling a leaflet warning of the dangers of disarmament by showing Hitler giving a Nazi salute. "I don't know who's this guy anyway."
Brazil's Oct. 23 vote on whether to ban gun sales, which the government says is the world's first nationwide referendum on firearms, is being watched closely by gun makers and opponents across the globe as a referendum that could set a precedent for campaigns in other countries.
Brazil has the highest number of gun deaths in the world, with 36,091 people shot and killed last year, according to government figures.
Over 120 million people are expected to vote on the bill in Brazil, where voting is compulsory. Television and radio ads financed by groups on both sides of the debate have bombarded Brazilians.
"Those who want disarmament, raise your right hand," read the pro-gun leaflet, alluding to Nazi Germany's decision to ban guns for civilians in 1938.
Since the media blitz started several weeks ago, support for the ban has fallen and it now looks like voters are increasingly split on the issue.
Just two months ago, polls showed 80 percent would vote for the ban. A survey released on Friday showed that number had plummeted to 45 percent.
Even the government is divided. President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva endorses the ban. But his vice president and defense minister, Jose Alencar, says the ban would encourage criminals.
VIOLENT CRIME
Human rights groups endorse the government-proposed ban, dismissing as absurd claims it would be a threat to democracy. But some groups acknowledge the prohibition of legal gun sales would not reduce the arsenals held by dreaded drug gangs and other criminals, as Lima hopes.
Almost 60 percent of an estimated 17 million guns in Brazil were obtained illegally, said human and social rights group Viva Rio.
Over the past year, violent shootouts between drug gangs armed with assault rifles have often shut the scenic ocean-side road connecting Rio's famous Leblon and Sao Conrado beaches.
"The population is unprotected, left at the mercy of armed thugs, while the government is not investing in security," said Alberto Fraga, a legislator who leads the gun lobby. "This vote doesn't disarm the criminals," he said.
If Latin America's largest country votes in favor of the ban, all sales of guns and ammunition to civilians will be halted, leaving those who already have registered firearms without bullets.
Police, judges, firefighters and security firms will be able to buy guns for private and official use, sales that are likely to sustain local manufacturers like Forjas Taurus whose pistols are also popular in the United States. Taurus exports rose 41 percent last year.
Brazil's gun control laws, which were tightened in Dec. 2003, are already very strict. They require psychological and gun-handling tests, a clean criminal record and high registration fees that are too costly for many Brazilians.
The government says the tough legislation helped cut gun deaths last year from 2003, when they totaled over 39,000 -- the first drop in 13 years.
Rest assured its not the 'Dems' or 'Repubs'...
It is the 'Citizens' that own the 'guns'..
Politicizing gun ownership is suicide.
Its the notion of individual freedom and personal responsibility that is the underpinning of fire arms ownership. Not some jackarse hack like Karl Rove or an ultimately indeterminate president
Neither Repubs or Dems are allies in personal firearms ownership...they wish they would soon see you disarmed and subservient...both of them..
Its the system that is broken and IT IS the threat...
THEY ARE GOING TO COME FOR YOUR WEAPONS...ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME
Conservative or Lib...it doesn't matter...THEY ARE COMING...
There are stupid people everywhere.
We have people in this country who honestly believe that you can slow down traffic on a road just by lowering the speed limit from 40 to 35.
They believed you could stop the production and consumption of alcohol just by passing a law.
They believed you could stop the importation and sale of drugs just by passing a law.
There are people today who believe that you can change a person's heart just by forcing them to bow down before the god of your choosing.
There are people who believe you can prevent randy teenagers from having sex simply by never talking about it except to say it's dirty, evil and wrong.
So why are we surprised that these sheep can be conned by propaganda into thinking that a new law will magically make all the bad guns go away?
"Now there's no more Oak oppression,
for they've passed a noble law
and the trees are all kept equal
with Hatchet, Axe and Saw."
Wow. Imagine having to stockpile your entire lifetime's worth of ammunition. If that happened here I would have to buy some more. Maybe not much more. I would definitely need a more secure place to store it.
I bet they would close the firing ranges too. I would have to find somewhere else to fire. Let me see ...
And Brazil marches on towards Communism/socialisim, So what is the going rate for a full auto AK in Columbia?
I was being sarcastic
The hardest lessons are written in the blood of innocents.
You must've owned an old one. Their quality has much improved.
They want to make sure that toothless street sweepers who never heard of Hitler get an equal say in determining the future of the nation.
You can never have too much ammo, unless maybe it cracks your concret slab with its weight.
I was looking for another article on Brazil's "land reform" which I had not saved. I googled key words, and that one popped out.
I sure wish I had a concrete slab to store mine on.
I'm Brazilian and I will vote NO to the prohibition. Lula wants create a communist government in Brazil, he is the best friend of the Chavez and Fidel Castro. Disarmament is the first way to create a tirany.
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