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Experts refute anti-bacterial soap claims
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | October 21, 2005 | JOHN J. LUMPKIN

Posted on 10/21/2005 9:07:54 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 10/21/2005 9:07:54 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

I love the stuff!


2 posted on 10/21/2005 9:08:20 PM PDT by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation ccontest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: neverdem

you know all of these scientist can go to he.l


3 posted on 10/21/2005 9:08:40 PM PDT by Flavius (Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum")
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To: neverdem

We're doomed. We're all doomed!


4 posted on 10/21/2005 9:10:48 PM PDT by writer33 (Rush Limbaugh walks in the footsteps of giants: George Washington, Thomas Paine and Ronald Reagan.)
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To: neverdem

That does it! I'm not washing up any more.


5 posted on 10/21/2005 9:13:42 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: neverdem
The agency has the authority to order warning labels on the products

That will work real well!

WARNING!

This product has been shown to kill germs.

6 posted on 10/21/2005 9:17:01 PM PDT by WildTurkey (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: neverdem
Their products have grown significantly in popularity in the last decade, as consumers decided killing germs was better than simply washing them down the drain.

I prefer to hang out with clean consumers rather than dirty bureaucrats telling me what to buy.

7 posted on 10/21/2005 9:21:56 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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8 posted on 10/21/2005 9:22:52 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
P&G (the devil worshiping company) is NOT gonna be happy about this.

:)

9 posted on 10/21/2005 9:23:03 PM PDT by upchuck (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON! Rumsfeld: go kick butt and fix this!!)
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To: neverdem

Some non scientific testing on my part, bathing with different varieties of the same soap (Lever 2000) showed the antibacterial soap reduced the incidence of, ahem, body zits compared with its non antibacterial cousins. I'd expect that to happen since the soap doesn't entirely wash away; a small residue remains in the skin. To do a more scientific test, one would have to test the same soap formulation with no differences other than the antibacterial component (triclocarban or triclosan).


10 posted on 10/21/2005 9:23:35 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

A good old bar of Ivory soap will do just as well as the anti bacterials----and Ivory floats-(not that anyone except kids care anymore).


11 posted on 10/21/2005 9:28:54 PM PDT by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: Mears

I agree... (as a contractor to P&G)


12 posted on 10/21/2005 9:31:14 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: The Red Zone

The zit problem sounds like a good reason. An unscientific observation on my part is that kids that are raised in a sterile environment tend to be more sickly than kids that are allowed to get down and dirty. It makes sense to me because they are allowed to actually develop resistance to bacteria. Because of that, I tend to vote against using anti-bacterial soaps.


13 posted on 10/21/2005 9:32:22 PM PDT by mongrel
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To: mongrel
An unscientific observation on my part is that kids that are raised in a sterile environment tend to be more sickly than kids that are allowed to get down and dirty.

One would need to track down the causation; it could also be that parents of children who get sick more often try to take more precautions.

14 posted on 10/21/2005 9:35:36 PM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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To: neverdem

OK, here is the deal.

I keep a tube of anti-bacterial soap in my laptop case. I meet people from Asia, shake hands, and sit at the table. I notice they are sniffling.

I casually pull the tube from my bag, squirt a bit on my hands, and rub it in under the table. They have no idea.

Now, explain to me how this is not better than getting up and walking to the bathroom to wash my hands with soap and water????


15 posted on 10/21/2005 9:37:41 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: neverdem

Anti-bacterial soaps fight body odors better than any old-fashioned soap.

And if I'm dining out, that restroom had better be equipped with anti-bacterial soap, or management is going to hear from me.


What kind of luddite bullshit is this?


16 posted on 10/21/2005 9:40:14 PM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I still remember the old radio ads-

"Ivory Soap---99 and 44/100ths percent pure,and it floats."

Yep,I'm old.


17 posted on 10/21/2005 9:42:21 PM PDT by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: Mears

Ivory floats because they whip air into it. Don't be naive.


18 posted on 10/21/2005 9:42:52 PM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: Petronski

I know why it floats---just stating a fact. I'm far from naive.

Jeesh!


19 posted on 10/21/2005 9:52:10 PM PDT by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: neverdem
They say the antibacterials don't work, but then they say they are leading to super bactertia. The latter accusation would be based on them killing off most bacteria and leaving behind the more resistant - just like with antibiotics.

Then you see they have absolutely no proof of either accusation. Statistics on infections reported in households is not the same as knowing whether the products kill harmful bacteria. Then they admit there is no evidence any super bacteria are being caused.

They want to restrict the use to hospitals. If they don't work and breed super bugs, why do they use them in hospitals????

20 posted on 10/21/2005 10:13:52 PM PDT by Williams
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