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Mystery-Woman Miers (Has Supported ICC, Gay Adoptions, Tax Hikes; Some "Conservative," Huh...?)
World Net Daily ^ | 10/03/2005 | Joseph Farrah

Posted on 10/23/2005 5:34:36 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

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To: Dr. Eckleburg

As more facts available, I'm getting disillusioned.


261 posted on 10/23/2005 12:26:49 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: ez
What part of "We don't have the votes." don't you understand?

You mean like Bush didn't have the votes for the Medi-care pill bill?
So it was held open for over three hours. That kind of "we don't have the votes"?

262 posted on 10/23/2005 12:30:03 PM PDT by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: unsycophant

you could try answering his question.


263 posted on 10/23/2005 12:31:45 PM PDT by flashbunny (What is more important: Loyalty to principles, or loyalty to personalities?)
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To: dfrussell

You are another in a growing list who are eager to prove they aren't worth the trouble of responding to. You automatically lose when you reframe the facts to suit your needs. Next!

The "article" by Mr. NutDaily, is based on old details that have been debunked in thread after thread at FR for weeks. But here's Farah repeating them anyway, again.

His sanity and ethics most certainly ARE relevant to this thread since the commentary is based on inaccurate information. The old "you need meds" bit is tired and worn out, and not very mature. But I will respond as if I'm in Rome, so:

Maybe you should ring for the nurse and have your diaper changed!

Hopa dis hepps.


264 posted on 10/23/2005 12:41:19 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: dfrussell

From http://www.committeeforjustice.org/cgi-data/press/files/34.shtml

CFJ Clarifies Harriet Miers's Record

October 18, 2005

WASHINGTON, DC - The Committee for Justice, which promotes constitutionalist judicial nominees, today corrected prevailing myths about Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers s record.



MYTH: Harriet Miers supported gay adoption.

TRUTH: Miers was on a Select Committee of the American Bar Association s House of Delegates that organized an annual meeting in 1999. Her committee was nothing more than a mailman; it circulated the upcoming meeting s agenda. Her committee did NOT discuss, prepare, draft, endorse, or opine on any substantive issue. Though gay adoption was a topic at the general annual meeting, Miers was not involved in that discussion in any way. In fact, in 1989, in answer to a Lesbian/Gay Political Coalition of Dallas questionnaire on whether she supported repeal of Texas anti-sodomy law, Ms. Miers responded with a simple, No, putting her to the right of Justice Clarence Thomas on that issue. Furthermore, she made clear she was not looking for the group s endorsement. The AP reported that a coalition leader recalled, We weren t really pleased with her responses.

MYTH: Harriet Miers supported U.S. involvement in the International Criminal Court (ICC).

TRUTH: The source of this charge is the same as the previous item. Again, the ABA select committee on which Miers s sat did NOT prepare, draft, endorse, or opine on any substantive issue in any way. Miers has been an integral member of an administration that consistently opposes U.S. participation in the ICC. There is no evidence that Miers s position on the ICC differs from the President s.

MYTH: Harriet Miers supported women in combat and the military's "don't-ask-don't-tell" policy regarding homosexuals in the military.

TRUTH: These allegations are a mischaracterization of remarks made by Elaine Donnelly, the president of the Center for Military Readiness. As can be seen from Ms. Donnelly's article, she does not claim that Harriet Miers supports either women in combat or the "don't-ask-don't-tell" rules. More generally, it is unknown whether Miers has taken any position on these issues.

MYTH: Harriet Miers s pro bono work supported illegal immigration.

TRUTH: Working with Catholic Charities of Dallas, Miers defended an African woman who feared she and her child would be murdered by her tribe if she were returned home because the baby was born out of wedlock. Miers overcame the presumptions against her client and brilliantly presented the case before the court. Her victory was so convincing that the government decided not to appeal the case in federal court.


265 posted on 10/23/2005 12:47:26 PM PDT by skr (Shopping for a tagline that fits or a fitting tagline...whichever I find first.)
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To: unsycophant

I asked you specific questions. Any answer to them??? Mind you, they were not vitriolic or personal, but to me are very real reasons for concern.


266 posted on 10/23/2005 1:00:41 PM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton)
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To: skr
Great post. Farah has a tendency to go ballistic whenever homosexuality arises as an issue. I recall, but do not have a URL, that after SCOTUS ruled the Texas Sodomy Law as being unconstitutional, Joseph Farah was agitating to impeach SCOTUS.

I agree everyone should have a chance to discuss this nomination, but somehow everyone cannot have their own facts.

Again, thanks for the post.

267 posted on 10/23/2005 1:05:24 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: Dave S
Oops sorry she does have other qualifications: she's never been a judge, she is a Christian, she's a woman and she's from Texas. Yes those are hardy endorsements for a lifetime nomination.

You forgot she was an education major (until she switched to math) at SMU along with Laura Bush, and that she pushed for the creation of an endowed lecture series in women’s studies, gave money and solicited donations to help get it off the ground.

In 1998, Gloria Steinem delivered the series’s first lecture. In 1999, the speaker was Patricia S. Schroeder, the former Democratic congresswoman. In 2000, the speaker was Susan Faludi. Former Texas governor Ann W. Richards was the speaker in 2003. Other speakers include Gwen Ifill, of Washington Week in Review and The News Hour With Jim Lehrer fame.

268 posted on 10/23/2005 1:11:16 PM PDT by bIlluminati (If guns are outlawed, can we use tanks?)
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To: TChad
The consensus seems to be that she is a good lawyer but not good enough for the Supreme Court.

In thirty years, she argued three cases before the Fifth Court of Appeals. Her record? 0-3. If someone cares to use Lexis/Nexis (I don't have it) might be able to document that.

269 posted on 10/23/2005 1:24:02 PM PDT by bIlluminati (If guns are outlawed, can we use tanks?)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle
...Has Supported ICC, Gay Adoptions, Tax Hikes...

i too have supported the above--and more--in my lifetime... i've even campaigned for politicians such as Walter Mondale and Mike Dukakis... and today i am quite the conservative...

270 posted on 10/23/2005 1:32:53 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: unsycophant
You are another in a growing list who are eager to prove they aren't worth the trouble of responding to. You automatically lose when you reframe the facts to suit your needs. Next!

LO... ah, you mean like you're doing?

The "article" by Mr. NutDaily, is based on old details that have been debunked in thread after thread at FR for weeks. But here's Farah repeating them anyway, again.

You mean like you're doing with this having been "debunked" schtick ,but never managing to get around to saying specifically how?

His sanity and ethics most certainly ARE relevant to this thread since the commentary is based on inaccurate information.

Right, when you can't support your claims that the information is inaccurate, trash the source. Sorry, won't work. :)

The old "you need meds" bit is tired and worn out, and not very mature.

In your case, methinks it is: either you're a DU plant or not to be let out by yourself. Either way, it doesn't matter much since your opinion, at this point, isn't shared by many people.

But I will respond as if I'm in Rome, so: Maybe you should ring for the nurse and have your diaper changed!

Translation: you're a baby because you won't let me convince you that I'm right.

Observation: have you noticed that you seem to project a lot?

271 posted on 10/23/2005 1:41:13 PM PDT by dfrussell
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To: jwalsh07

It's really not surprising why other more popular people on the President's list didn't want to go through this.


272 posted on 10/23/2005 1:57:07 PM PDT by skr (Shopping for a tagline that fits or a fitting tagline...whichever I find first.)
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To: markedmannerf

Somebody said the nomination should be pulled, and Senator Santorum should be nominated. That way the Democrats get a PA Senate seat EARLY. But Santorum would be more likely to follow constitutional principles on the court, wouldn't he?


273 posted on 10/23/2005 2:02:37 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle

George W. Bush is just a man, a man who temporarily holds the office of President. In 3 years, 2 months and 3 weeks he will no longer be such. But a Justice Miers would reign for decades after Bush is gone and forgotten. We're sorry Mr. President. This decision is just too damn important for us to just "trust" you. We need proof. And so far, the preponderance of the evidence does not support your side.


274 posted on 10/23/2005 2:02:40 PM PDT by montag813
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To: shrinkermd
everyone cannot have their own facts

Not possible; facts are "stubborn things," and they are always correct. The alternative is either a lie or wishful thinking.

275 posted on 10/23/2005 2:07:35 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: bluefish

John McLaughlin said on his "Group" program that there is a 4/5 chance that Miss Miers will never sit on the high court.


276 posted on 10/23/2005 2:09:26 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: TAdams8591
The more we learn about Miers, the worse she looks

Yes, and the opposite was true of Roberts. The more we learned about him, the better he looked, but I was also fearful about Roberts at the start of the process. I have no faith in this current selection.

277 posted on 10/23/2005 2:15:38 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: democratstomper

I can't tolerate Schumer either. But I have to admit that he stand up far more firmly for his side than do our Republican senators. Ours seem like the ground hog on Feb. 2, afraid of their own shadows.


280 posted on 10/23/2005 2:40:17 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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