Nothing is as it seems, is it?
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Posted on 10/23/2005 9:59:10 AM PDT by Danae
How's this for news: Black Singer Decries Injustice of the White Man ?
Of course, that's not news at all...
No brief for what these girs are doing, but if they were Black and singing that the Africans are the Superior Creators of Civilization their work would be lauded as "positive."
Of course, liberals also don't seem to have any trouble with Irish nationalists in Ulster. Are Irish nationalists not white?
Lighten up, this is extremely weird stuff. Hard to know how to react. As for myself, I prefer levity. It's just too weird to be taken seriously. You can't expect a full blown Hannah Arendt type discussionon something like this..
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I don’t see where anyone here is giving a pass to Nazis. The two main points I see are: Freedom of Speech and the MSM double-standard.
It seems to be the consensus that these girls are nut-job extremists, but it is the essence of conservatism to allow free speech… however much we disagree with it. If we stifle it, we become what we despise.
It is extremely frustrating to see the rappers and black leadership spew forth such hateful venom as these girls, but are winked at by the media. You will hear a token protest here and there, but by and large these guys get a free pass to foment hatred and violence. THAT is what many here are taking issue with.
So you are not hearing an acceptance of what these girls are doing, but more of a caveat: Yes these girls are horrible. But there are many, many others that are just as, if not more, horrible… and the MSM just looks the other way.
Anyone who knows me or my dear beloved will know what I mean. The rest can go pound sand. ;O)
It's the people who don't know that "cyborg" is a screen name I was worried about. You could be mistaken for a Trekkie...or worse.
Hey! I paid for this HoloDeck time! Leave me alone.
I just think its kinda funny, you read the first few paragraphs, replace the word 'White' with the word 'Black', and nobody would think anything of it.
Later on, when you get the the whole race war and all, that would probably concern people regardless of what color it mentioned, but early on, some of the racist ideas would get a pass.
A sad commentary on the state of race relations in our country, methinks.
The "worse" could be a Next Generation fan...(kidding, kidding)
Lt. Worf will beaming over to deliver a beating. Wait there, the away team will be there shortly.
Most black people don't agree with the "kill whitey" stuff any more than most white people don't buy into the "kill blacky" nut jobs.
Mostly people just want to live their lives, choose their friends and go about their business with a minimum of conflict.
Oh god, I touched a nerve. Look, I already went on the Star Trek ride in Vegas. Haven't I suffered enough?
While I agree, that if you replaced 'White' with 'Black', there would be less of an uproar, and that there is some rap that is similar, at least the rappers have something of an excuse.
99% of those that make it in rap come from areas that are extremely poor and poverty stricken, they often don't have even one real parent, let alone two, and they are made that way, however unwisely, mostly through circumstances that truly are terrible and very difficult.
Does this justify them? No, not at all. But it's worth understanding.
In these girls case, they obviously come from a pampered, middle class existence. So for them, or at the very least those who taught them, its a lot more about superiority and wanting to actually dominate and kill people more then it is about having bad perceptions based on very difficult circumstances.
These girls parents are disgusting.
I agree, but what are you trying to say? I don't quite get what you are getting at.
Postings set to stun!
Make it so.
Two points. First, I don't see anyone on this thread attempting to stifle anyone's free speech rights. Two, the MSM double-standard is just par for the course for those liars. So who should be surprised by it?
It seems to be the consensus that these girls are nut-job extremists, but it is the essence of conservatism to allow free speech… however much we disagree with it. If we stifle it, we become what we despise.
It's "consensus" that they are considered "nut jobs" on this thread, right? You sure about that? Are you 100% sure?
It is extremely frustrating to see the rappers and black leadership spew forth such hateful venom as these girls, but are winked at by the media.
And that's the heart of the matter. This particular thing would not be discussed, save for the fact that someone posted it as subject matter. And as subject matter, how quickly it changed to where rap was the real subject.
Now let's look at something you said more closely. You said, "It is extremely frustrating to see the rappers and black leadership spew..."
That should result in a run-time error for those of us on the Right. Why do we have those among us who insist on giving these morons any legitimacy whatsoever? Jesse, Al, and their ilk should be thought of as nothing more than spokesmen for their own views. They are not elected.
For those who may be in the CBC, they should be considered spokespersons for their constituents only. Even though I'm a black man, none of these idiots speak for me at all.
As far as "consensus" is concerned, I ask you again, are you sure?
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The point I was trying to make, probably poorly, is that the extremes are the extremes, existing at the far ends of the spectrum. If you go into a black dance club, you won't hear a lot of "kill whitey" songs. The same with white dance clubs. What you're going to hear are songs intended to help the guy "get some," which is the way it should be.
In any event, rap/hip hop is now changing. It's morphing into the mainstream, i.e. the Hey Yea song, which was a toe tapper. Also, if you remember the elections in the Ukraine, the protest song of choice was a hip hop song someone Ukrainian guy made up for the event.
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