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Young Singers Spread Racist Hate (Racist BARF alert)
ABC News.com ^ | 10-20-05 | ABC News

Posted on 10/23/2005 9:59:10 AM PDT by Danae

Duo Considered the Olsen Twins of the White Nationalist Movement

Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.

They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.

Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.

"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."

Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."

April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.

"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."

Teaching Hate

Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."

"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.

On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree.

"Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children."

Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke — the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist — uses the twins to draw a crowd.

Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause.

"Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity."

Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out.

But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx.

"We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth."

A Taste for Hate

Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist.

One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead."

"I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping whores."

Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s."

Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous.

"When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful."

A Place to Call Home

Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message.

Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina — the white ones.

The girls' donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphlet promoting their group and beliefs — some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased.

After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia.

Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up.

But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest.


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KEYWORDS: hitlerwouldbeproud; ignorant; music; neonazi; notrap; notyournorthwest; racist; whitenationalists
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To: Danae
The story is news because virtually no other whites talk like this --that's instructive.

How's this for news: Black Singer Decries Injustice of the White Man ?

Of course, that's not news at all...

61 posted on 10/23/2005 12:42:06 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Danae
They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.

No brief for what these girs are doing, but if they were Black and singing that the Africans are the Superior Creators of Civilization their work would be lauded as "positive."

Of course, liberals also don't seem to have any trouble with Irish nationalists in Ulster. Are Irish nationalists not white?

62 posted on 10/23/2005 12:42:58 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Samach 'Avraham beYom Simchat Torah.)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus

Lighten up, this is extremely weird stuff. Hard to know how to react. As for myself, I prefer levity. It's just too weird to be taken seriously. You can't expect a full blown Hannah Arendt type discussionon something like this..


63 posted on 10/23/2005 12:44:07 PM PDT by durasell
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus; Shade2
Half of the posters in this thread make me ashamed to be here. Never would have thought people would excuse Nazis here on Freep. Guess I was wrong.

Nothing is as it seems, is it?


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64 posted on 10/23/2005 12:49:09 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus

I don’t see where anyone here is giving a pass to Nazis. The two main points I see are: Freedom of Speech and the MSM double-standard.

It seems to be the consensus that these girls are nut-job extremists, but it is the essence of conservatism to allow free speech… however much we disagree with it. If we stifle it, we become what we despise.

It is extremely frustrating to see the rappers and black leadership spew forth such hateful venom as these girls, but are winked at by the media. You will hear a token protest here and there, but by and large these guys get a free pass to foment hatred and violence. THAT is what many here are taking issue with.

So you are not hearing an acceptance of what these girls are doing, but more of a caveat: Yes these girls are horrible. But there are many, many others that are just as, if not more, horrible… and the MSM just looks the other way.


65 posted on 10/23/2005 1:00:06 PM PDT by Wunpac
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To: durasell

Anyone who knows me or my dear beloved will know what I mean. The rest can go pound sand. ;O)


66 posted on 10/23/2005 1:14:31 PM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: Petronski

It's the people who don't know that "cyborg" is a screen name I was worried about. You could be mistaken for a Trekkie...or worse.


67 posted on 10/23/2005 1:19:31 PM PDT by durasell
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To: durasell

Hey! I paid for this HoloDeck time! Leave me alone.


68 posted on 10/23/2005 1:20:32 PM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: Danae

I just think its kinda funny, you read the first few paragraphs, replace the word 'White' with the word 'Black', and nobody would think anything of it.

Later on, when you get the the whole race war and all, that would probably concern people regardless of what color it mentioned, but early on, some of the racist ideas would get a pass.

A sad commentary on the state of race relations in our country, methinks.


69 posted on 10/23/2005 1:23:32 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Petronski

The "worse" could be a Next Generation fan...(kidding, kidding)


70 posted on 10/23/2005 1:24:01 PM PDT by durasell
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To: durasell

Lt. Worf will beaming over to deliver a beating. Wait there, the away team will be there shortly.


71 posted on 10/23/2005 1:26:09 PM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: Petronski
Cartman's true love!


72 posted on 10/23/2005 1:27:04 PM PDT by Alouette (Islam gives terrorism a bad name.)
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To: zbigreddogz

Most black people don't agree with the "kill whitey" stuff any more than most white people don't buy into the "kill blacky" nut jobs.

Mostly people just want to live their lives, choose their friends and go about their business with a minimum of conflict.


73 posted on 10/23/2005 1:27:31 PM PDT by durasell
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To: Petronski

Oh god, I touched a nerve. Look, I already went on the Star Trek ride in Vegas. Haven't I suffered enough?


74 posted on 10/23/2005 1:29:22 PM PDT by durasell
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To: SouthernFreebird

While I agree, that if you replaced 'White' with 'Black', there would be less of an uproar, and that there is some rap that is similar, at least the rappers have something of an excuse.

99% of those that make it in rap come from areas that are extremely poor and poverty stricken, they often don't have even one real parent, let alone two, and they are made that way, however unwisely, mostly through circumstances that truly are terrible and very difficult.

Does this justify them? No, not at all. But it's worth understanding.

In these girls case, they obviously come from a pampered, middle class existence. So for them, or at the very least those who taught them, its a lot more about superiority and wanting to actually dominate and kill people more then it is about having bad perceptions based on very difficult circumstances.


75 posted on 10/23/2005 1:29:29 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Danae

These girls parents are disgusting.


76 posted on 10/23/2005 1:30:17 PM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: durasell

I agree, but what are you trying to say? I don't quite get what you are getting at.


77 posted on 10/23/2005 1:30:17 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: durasell

Postings set to stun!





Make it so.


78 posted on 10/23/2005 1:31:40 PM PDT by Petronski (The name "cyborg" to me means complete love and incredible fun. I'm filled with joy.)
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To: Wunpac
I don’t see where anyone here is giving a pass to Nazis. The two main points I see are: Freedom of Speech and the MSM double-standard.

Two points. First, I don't see anyone on this thread attempting to stifle anyone's free speech rights. Two, the MSM double-standard is just par for the course for those liars. So who should be surprised by it?

It seems to be the consensus that these girls are nut-job extremists, but it is the essence of conservatism to allow free speech… however much we disagree with it. If we stifle it, we become what we despise.

It's "consensus" that they are considered "nut jobs" on this thread, right? You sure about that? Are you 100% sure?

It is extremely frustrating to see the rappers and black leadership spew forth such hateful venom as these girls, but are winked at by the media.

And that's the heart of the matter. This particular thing would not be discussed, save for the fact that someone posted it as subject matter. And as subject matter, how quickly it changed to where rap was the real subject.

Now let's look at something you said more closely. You said, "It is extremely frustrating to see the rappers and black leadership spew..."

That should result in a run-time error for those of us on the Right. Why do we have those among us who insist on giving these morons any legitimacy whatsoever? Jesse, Al, and their ilk should be thought of as nothing more than spokesmen for their own views. They are not elected.

For those who may be in the CBC, they should be considered spokespersons for their constituents only. Even though I'm a black man, none of these idiots speak for me at all.

As far as "consensus" is concerned, I ask you again, are you sure?


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79 posted on 10/23/2005 1:31:44 PM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: zbigreddogz

The point I was trying to make, probably poorly, is that the extremes are the extremes, existing at the far ends of the spectrum. If you go into a black dance club, you won't hear a lot of "kill whitey" songs. The same with white dance clubs. What you're going to hear are songs intended to help the guy "get some," which is the way it should be.

In any event, rap/hip hop is now changing. It's morphing into the mainstream, i.e. the Hey Yea song, which was a toe tapper. Also, if you remember the elections in the Ukraine, the protest song of choice was a hip hop song someone Ukrainian guy made up for the event.


80 posted on 10/23/2005 1:36:25 PM PDT by durasell
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