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Pistol-packers challenge police (NH)
The Union Leader (NH) ^ | October 30, 2005 | ROGER TALBOT

Posted on 10/31/2005 9:43:58 AM PST by neverdem

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To: clee1

Thank you.


82 posted on 10/31/2005 6:33:32 PM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a creditcard?)
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To: thegreatbeast

Why? Because I agree with the quoted firearms instructor and New Hampshire Firearms Coalition officer that "Though it is legal to carry a gun in plain view, “open-carry is not a bright idea.”"?

You seem to be confusing an assertion that something is stupid, with an assertion that it ought to be illegal. Back to reading comprehension class for you.


83 posted on 10/31/2005 9:06:23 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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To: GovernmentShrinker

Ouch! Check your attitude(s).


84 posted on 10/31/2005 10:26:20 PM PST by thegreatbeast (Quid lucrum istic mihi est?)
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To: Harriet Souter Gonzales; diogenes ghost
Free Staters are only scary to people who are against a real restoration of Federalism.
The FSP and LP are also scary to people (in NH and elsewhere) who feel their plank on the elimination of free tax-funded public education will throw this country into a new dark age.
85 posted on 11/01/2005 3:35:59 AM PST by Nonesuch
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To: clee1

"Thanks Top...

They didn't use that expression when I was in."

That's what I get for spending time around Navy types. "Elephant cages" and such!

Take care,
Top sends


86 posted on 11/01/2005 6:16:57 AM PST by petro45acp (SUPPORT/BE YOUR LOCAL SHEEPDOG!!!!)
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To: Army Air Corps

Yep! A short form, a phone call, and a 'have fun shooting'!
Oh, and the painfull part of handing over the money! Im thinkin about buying a new gun within the next few weeks. Been looking into a bushmaster.


88 posted on 11/01/2005 9:12:48 AM PST by BigTom85 (Proud Gun Owner and Member of NRA)
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To: neverdem; AAABEST; A.J.Armitage; archy; austingirl; BADROTOFINGER; Baseballguy; Beck_isright; ...
Porcuping!

You betcha!


89 posted on 11/01/2005 11:31:23 AM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
The casual open carrier is an invitation to gun theft.

Indeed. Why, anyone who wants to steal a gun for their own use need only ambush an armed/uniformed cop and take his.

But there does not seem to be much of an epidemic of such incidents- yet. Perhaps only some citizens are fully equal to others....

90 posted on 11/01/2005 11:35:59 AM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: neverdem
You would think we should learn that once you give anyone power over you, they will eventually abuse that power. It is a human failing.

The Founding Fathers understood this but I am convinced they were the last ones.

I challenge anyone to find a large organization, of any type, government, private, church etc. that does not abuse their power simply because they became powerful.

Paging Lord Acton!

91 posted on 11/01/2005 11:42:13 AM PST by Wurlitzer (I have the biggest organ in my town {;o))
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To: diogenes ghost
I find it enlightening that two of these folks are Free Staters, a group that has been bashed a lot around here. It seems as though they are making their presence felt in a positive way, good for them.

You are invited to join the FR Free Staters' ping list, AKA the *Porcupine List,* for future FR posts and additional info on FSP and FWP news and activity reports.

Alternately, you can use the FR keyword search for *PORCUPINES* *FSP* or *FREESTATEPROJECT*.

92 posted on 11/01/2005 11:44:56 AM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: mvpel
You can think what you want, and consider me a liar if you wish, but I have always said from March 28, 2004 onward, that it was a mistake on my part resulting from a too-hurried exit from my home to make a dinner reservation and a new, unfamiliar holster. And that's all I have to say about that.

Another correspondant pointed out that the police response would have been the same, or worse, if I had printed, or had been purposefully carrying openly in a Bianci thumb-break hip holster, so Alan Rice's "extremely poor judgement" comment on the style of holster I was using that evening misses the point entirely.

Concur. Rice's comments about holster selection echo others I've heard from self-importantinstructors about the *only* sort of equipment that ought to be used by handgun carriers, whether open or concealed, that all too often for some reason happens to coincide with the style/make of holster sold in said instructor's gun shop or by an associated pal.

Agency restrictions often follow similar influences, though the current military and contractor restrictions in Iraq prohibiting horizontal-carry shoulder rigs resulted from actual injury-producing incidents. And horizontal-carry Small-of-Back *SOB* belt rigs offer the same sort of possibility.

93 posted on 11/01/2005 11:59:11 AM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: clee1; RKV
What is "BZ"????

*info here*.

[Though perhaps not the meaning intended....]

94 posted on 11/01/2005 12:00:27 PM PST by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: neverdem
I first heard about this from a post by Mike Pelletier at packing.org a few months ago. There's also a thread over at packing.rrg about this article. One of the other folks mentioned in the article "Alan M. Rice" has also chimed in with his take.
95 posted on 11/01/2005 12:10:21 PM PST by P8riot (When they come for your guns, give them the bullets first.)
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To: Shadow Deamon

Especially since he had his nose buried in a book.


96 posted on 11/01/2005 12:20:51 PM PST by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: Shadow Deamon

Especially since he had his nose buried in a book.


97 posted on 11/01/2005 12:20:51 PM PST by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: archy
Hey Archy, how the hell you been?
Good I pray.

Y'know these incidents -- seem to me -- all based upon a series of unfortunate (& rare) circumstances which led up to each of the encounters with LEOs.

Why the LEOs -- of all people -- aren't up to speed regarding laws governing firearm possession in the very state they're working is quite frankly beyond me.
Be that as it may it'd appear that's precisely what's happening, eh?

I guess what I find the most bothersome in each incident was after IDs had been produced in compliance with LEO's demand(s) they seemed to not want to let it go, deliberately choosing to antagonize the (now known) law abiding citizen.
Apparently LEOs in NH no longer can differentiate between a genuine "criminal" and a law abiding citizen, anymore.

...& worrisome for a a whole host of reasons.

98 posted on 11/01/2005 2:27:25 PM PST by Landru (A sucker born every minute = ~36,288,800 new suckers every year.)
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To: gc4nra
"Especially since he had his nose buried in a book."

Absolutely, and I don't say that to insult anyone. We all have to take other peoples experience, good or bad, and learn from it.

99 posted on 11/01/2005 5:06:10 PM PST by Shadow Deamon
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To: Shadow Deamon

Glad someone agrees.


Bottom line is: If you're carrying exposed, in an open top holster, in the small of your back, in a crowded store while you're distracted, you are inviting disaster!


100 posted on 11/01/2005 5:31:03 PM PST by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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