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So Take a Full Hour: Mapes Claims Docs Can't Be 'Easily Dismissed' as Forgeries
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Posted on 11/01/2005 2:48:57 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

In the upcoming December issue of Vanity Fair, Mary Mapes, the CBS News producer who lost her job after the disputed "60 Minutes II" Bush/National Guard report, writes, "I must answer the bloggers, the babblers and blabbers, and the true believers who have called me everything from 'feminazi' to an 'elitist liberal' to an 'idiot.'

"If I was an idiot, it was for believing in a free press that is able to do its job without fear or favor. ...I didn't know that the attack on our story was going to be as effective as a brilliantly run national political campaign, because that is what it was: a political campaign."

The December article, not yet generally available, is an excerpt from Mapes' soon-to-be-publihsed book, "Truth and Duty" (St. Martin's) on her career and the episode often called Rathergate. Vanity Fair says Mapes sets out to "answer her critics."

Mapes writes that she had felt the Guard segment was a big success after airing on Sept. 8, 2004, until the following morning at 11 a.m. when she learned that a bunch of "far-right" Web sites were claiming that documents were forged.

That same day about 3 p.m. she recalls staring at the Drudge Report and seeing a big picture of Rather at the top and a headline saying that he was "shaken" and hiding in his office. The phone rang and it was Rather, telling her he'd just heard about the Drudge deadline and he wanted to assure her that he was not "shaken" and was not even in his office.

He signed off with a favorite expression of his: "FEA" for "---- them all."

She writes that what she didn't know at the time was that the attack on the "60 Minutes" piece was just part of the Bushites "sliming" of those who raised questions about the president.

Aftdr detailing the unraveling of the Guard segment, Mapes describes crying her eyes out at an airport bathroom after Rather tells her by phone that CBS was going to apologize for the report and appoint a commitee to investigate what went wrong. Rather also told her to get a lawyer.

Finally, she details how in that probe the question of how "liberal" she was became paramount. She likens it to the days of Sen. Joe McCarthy and charges that it was ironic that the same network that stood up to McCarthy with the Edward R. Murrow broadcasts was now caving in to similar tactics now: "Suspected liberals had become the new 'Communists...What in the world would Edward R. Murrow think of his network now?"

In the end she observes that the outside panel that probed the report and found correct procedures were lacking did not investigate the legitimacy of the documents. She claims that a researcher has since shown her typography on other documents from the period Bush was in the Guard that suggest that the memos she obtained can not be easily dismissed "as being forgeries."

She also calls one of the co-leaders of that probe, Dick Thornburgh, worse than an "empty suit...He was completely full if it."

Throughout the article, Vanity Fair frequently cuts away for bracketed response from others involved in the episode who answer or rebut some of her charges.

At one point, for example, she asserts that CBS News chief Andrew Heyward said that if the bloggers could come up with "lousy analysts" to attack the authenticity of the memos CBS could find its own "lousy analysts." In an e-mail to Vanity Fair, Heyward denied this.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: cbs; mapes; mapesforbrains; marymapes; rather; rathergate
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; All
-60 Minutes to Infamy- those forged memos and The Shot Heard Round the World--
41 posted on 11/01/2005 3:20:33 AM PST by backhoe
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hey Mary: Boo frickity hoo!


42 posted on 11/01/2005 3:20:52 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Suspected liberals had become the new 'Communists..."

Suspected conservatives have become the new 'Nazis...
43 posted on 11/01/2005 3:21:40 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS (Ham & Eggs: A day's work for a hen, A lifetime commitment for a pig.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I am inclined to say that she's only embarassing herself further, but apparently she's immune from embarassment.

'Rats obviously lack an embarrassment gene ... it just doesn't exist in their make-up ... I cite the Clinton's as a classic example.

44 posted on 11/01/2005 3:21:41 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Courage Mary... courage.


45 posted on 11/01/2005 3:21:45 AM PST by johnny7 (“What now? Let me tell you what now.”)
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To: Ninian Dryhope

Excellent point, IMO.

Your point underlines what this story is really about: the MSM is furious that their monopoly on the news has been broken.

They thought they owned an exclusive right to manipulate elections, and can't stand it that the right has weapons to fight back against their lies.


46 posted on 11/01/2005 3:21:55 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: Pharmboy

"I must answer the bloggers, the babblers and blabbers, and the true believers who have called me everything from 'feminazi' to an 'elitist liberal' to an 'idiot.' If I was an idiot, it was for believing in a free press that is able to do its job without fear or favor."

First ridicule members of a truly free press. Then hide behind a mythical 'free press that never gets questioned' right.


47 posted on 11/01/2005 3:22:40 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
She writes that what she didn't know at the time was that the attack on the "60 Minutes" piece was just part of the Bushites "sliming" of those who raised questions about the president.

  I didn't really think of it as an attack at the time. It was such a blatant forgery that we were just having fun with it. Like the Microsoft Talking Paper Clip (Clippy) saying I see you're trying to forge a military document... you might like to (1) use a font consistent with the time period of the document you are attempting to forge... (2)... That was a funny one! Who thought of that one?
48 posted on 11/01/2005 3:23:35 AM PST by Maurice Tift
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Stupid is as stupid does.

Or:

Stuck on Stupid!

Take your pick.


49 posted on 11/01/2005 3:24:23 AM PST by raybbr
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To: Always Right

"I suppose we are McCarthyists for insisting that slanderous attacks on the President be based on the truth. If so, we are guilty."

You need to re-read her opening remarks. She has a right to free press, and somehow we, er, violated her rights through exercizing our rights. So, it's all perfectly logical-- if you're a leftist.


50 posted on 11/01/2005 3:25:27 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
"If I was an idiot, it was for believing in a free press that is able to do its job without fear or favor."

Mary, permit me to edit your comment to make it accurate:

"If I was an idiot, it was for believing a liberal press could peddle forgeries without fear of detection."

51 posted on 11/01/2005 3:26:13 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I suppose the logic goes, the first Amendment only protects the Press. Peons are not allowed to talk.


52 posted on 11/01/2005 3:28:00 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Maurice Tift

"I didn't really think of it as an attack at the time. It was such a blatant forgery that we were just having fun with it"

Excellent point! Many people are just having a lot of fun with their double standards, their insanity, etc. Why watch sitcoms? We have the left to laugh at. And lo and behold, someone decides to dig deep, maybe echo things others have said [subconsciously or otherwise] and then kaboom!


53 posted on 11/01/2005 3:29:48 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: raybbr

Struck by the ugly stick.


54 posted on 11/01/2005 3:32:07 AM PST by Ninian Dryhope
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To: goresalooza

Correct..the left is also delusional to think that any so called moderate Republicans will vote for a filabuster..


55 posted on 11/01/2005 3:33:14 AM PST by ken5050
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The December article, not yet generally available, is an excerpt from Mapes' soon-to-be-publihsed book, "Truth and Duty" (St. Martin's) on her career and the episode often called Rathergate. Vanity Fair says Mapes sets out to "answer her critics."

Just wondering if anyone at FR was contacted by Vanity Fair to dispute her side or is this just another one-sided media hit-piece? (I know, rhetorical question.)

56 posted on 11/01/2005 3:33:35 AM PST by Alissa
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

"If I was an idiot, it was for believing a liberal press could peddle forgeries without fear of detection."

Heheh! It might have worked 15 years ago. Makes a fella wonder what all they got away with back then.


57 posted on 11/01/2005 3:34:05 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (The election phase is just running off the fumes of the primary. And the Primary starts Now.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"Suspected liberals had become the new 'Communists...What in the world would Edward R. Murrow think of his network now?"

After the Verona Papers, who gives a **** what Murrow would think?

58 posted on 11/01/2005 3:34:29 AM PST by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: Nickname
And yes, liberals ARE the new Communists.

They are also the old communists. Yet another thing they choose to lie about.

59 posted on 11/01/2005 3:34:49 AM PST by laredo44 (Liberty is not the problem)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

FEA indeed.


60 posted on 11/01/2005 3:35:55 AM PST by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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