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Report Says Avian Flu Outbreak Could Kill Up to 1.9 Million People
NY Times ^ | November 2, 2005 | GARDINER HARRIS and TIMOTHY WILLIAMS

Posted on 11/02/2005 9:12:05 PM PST by neverdem

WASHINGTON, Nov. 2 - An outbreak of the avian flu virus in the United States could infect one-third of the population and kill as many as 1.9 million people, according to an analysis by the federal government released today.

The report, by the United States Department of Health and Human Services, said that banning large gatherings and imposing quarantines would likely be necessary in order to contain the spread of the H5N1 avian influenza virus if it mutated into a form easily spread by human-to-human contact.

There have been no reported cases of the virus being spread between humans.

The government analysis released today was part of a plan, broadly outlined by President Bush on Tuesday, to confront threats from new outbreaks of flu. The analysis was based on previous flu pandemics in the United States in 1918, 1957 and 1968.

"When a pandemic virus strain emerges, 25 percent to 30 percent of the population could develop the clinical disease and a substantial fraction of those individuals could die," the report stated. "The resources required for such a vigorous containment would almost certainly exceed those available in the affected communities."

The government analysis found that 40 percent of school age children could become sick with the virus, and between 865,000 and 9.9 million people would require hospitalizations - depending on its severity - a number that would threaten to overwhelm the hospital system.

The virus would affect a community for six to eight weeks and likely come in two different waves.

The report warned, however ,that because such viruses quickly mutate, they are difficult to predict.

"The scope and pace of an influenza pandemic may defy accurate prediction," the report said.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: avianflu; bioterror; bioterrorism; birdflu; h5n1
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To: phantomworker; RHINO369

Any shot being given now is for the seasonal flu that is a new combination of strains each year that depends on what emerges in the Far East each year during the late winter to early spring time frame, IIRC. The links in comment 6 review the bird flu situation fairly well.


21 posted on 11/02/2005 9:42:19 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: RHINO369

It's been said that Tammi flu won't do diddly squat against a avian flu pandemic, but foolish people are buying it up anyway, along with flu shots which won't do a thing to protect against this non- existant mutant strain of H51N1.

But what the heck, a good media generated panic sells paper.


22 posted on 11/02/2005 9:42:34 PM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: clee1

I hear you. Apparently my ancestors survived the 1919 pandemic in Philadelphia. Good genes trump the Old Dingy Media Whore any day.


23 posted on 11/02/2005 9:47:00 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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To: Forte Runningrock
"It's been said that Tammi flu won't do diddly squat against a avian flu pandemic, but foolish people are buying it up anyway, along with flu shots which won't do a thing to protect against this non- existant mutant strain of H5N1."

I saw Michael Leavitt say tonight that the mutated (the human-human version) will be related to the H5N1 and Tamiflu would offer some help due to that relationship.

My mom was diagnosed with two different flu viruses at the same time last year.

24 posted on 11/02/2005 9:48:12 PM PST by blam
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To: neverdem

When will the bird flu vaccine be available? LOL?


25 posted on 11/02/2005 9:49:59 PM PST by phantomworker (All roads lead back to Rome. Boldness has genius, power &magic in it..Begin your dissertation now!!)
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To: phantomworker
"Wasn't W supposed to give a warning of a flu pandemic yesterday? Did that happen? I got a flu shot. Am I saved?"

You are saved against the flu's which that flu shot was made to help protect against, but you aren't protected from the avian flu, because there is no vaccine for it.

The reason there is no vaccine against this "pandemic" because the strain doesn't exist yet. There is no pandemic, no killer flu. This is a media generated scare much like global warming. which doesn't exist either. If you really want to be afraid and hide in a bubble your entire life, it's possible we could have a "pandemic" flu or some other virus sweep the planet every year. Wash your hands, stay away from filthy whores and other forms of recreation sex outside of marriage, including unnatural sex and you'll be fine.

26 posted on 11/02/2005 9:52:41 PM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Judith Anne
A couple of my former classmates have been researching Avian Influenza for the past 20 years. They have been silently working on Avian Influenza and Coronaviruses. All of a sudden, everyone wants to interview them. They think the MSM is a pain in the rectal region.
27 posted on 11/02/2005 9:53:37 PM PST by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: neverdem

can we all please ask Jim Rob for a topic link on top, or at least the sidebar?


28 posted on 11/02/2005 9:54:52 PM PST by bitt ("..the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." Gen. Douglas MacArthur)
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To: TheDon

LOL! You have to wonder why the MSM is pushing this meme so hard.



Because it is more "the sky is falling B.S." one year out from the mid-terms. It's going to get worse before it gets better.


29 posted on 11/02/2005 9:55:45 PM PST by trubluolyguy (Is it more stupid believe in God, or to be offended by that which you don't believe exists?)
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To: Forte Runningrock

A bit reactionist, but it does make sense. LOL!!!!


30 posted on 11/02/2005 9:56:45 PM PST by phantomworker (All roads lead back to Rome. Boldness has genius, power &magic in it..Begin your dissertation now!!)
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To: blam
Who is Micheal Leavitt? I heard from health officials that tammi flu offers ZERO protection.

What it MAY do is help strengthen your immune system by helping your body develop more anti bodies, which MAY give you some help fighting off a virus.
Tammi flu isn't designed to help against the H51 virus, because there aren't any that exist which affect humans.

31 posted on 11/02/2005 10:03:07 PM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Forte Runningrock

'But what the heck, a good media generated panic sells paper. '

I am glad the gov't got me to buy all that DUCT tape. THAT was a great investment 2 years ago, but we used it all up on car fixes and pipe leaks....


32 posted on 11/02/2005 10:06:29 PM PST by bitt ("..the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." Gen. Douglas MacArthur)
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To: Forte Runningrock

btt


33 posted on 11/02/2005 10:07:00 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Forte Runningrock
Wash your hands, stay away from filthy whores and other forms of recreation sex outside of marriage, including unnatural sex and you'll be fine.

A bit liberatrian, but true. However, now a days, extra marrital sex is becoming the norm. Not with me, btw! Is marriage so cheap now a days!!!! ???? I know a marriage where this seems to be the norm! How odd! How yuckee! Not in my lifetime...not with me,, dude!!

34 posted on 11/02/2005 10:07:23 PM PST by phantomworker (All roads lead back to Rome. Boldness has genius, power &magic in it..Begin your dissertation now!!)
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To: Forte Runningrock

welcome to FR. Sounds like you haven't been reading up on this topic, tho.....


35 posted on 11/02/2005 10:07:35 PM PST by bitt ("..the very obsession of your public service must be Duty, Honor, Country." Gen. Douglas MacArthur)
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To: aliquando
I hear you. Apparently my ancestors survived the 1919 pandemic...

All of us have ancestors that survived the 1919 Pandemic, otherwise we wouldn't be here.

36 posted on 11/02/2005 10:13:44 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: phantomworker

So far, there hasn't been any human infections, it was thought that there may have been in China, but they just aren't sure yet.
The Europeon cases turned out to be false, and the couple reported here turned out false as well.

You can bet that IF a killer strain does develop, which could happen anytime, any year- since the beginning of time- they will add protection for the strain to the flu shot vaccine serum within a year.

They upgrade that vaccine every year to help protect against flu strain mutations. This is nothing new.

This "pandemic" is just a scare which was generated by the W.H.O. in order for them to make themselves seem important, and to suck funds out of UN member nations.

It's better to depend on our own nation's ability to respond and develop a vaccine to any "pandemic" which could possibly develop.
The W.H.O. depends on American labratories anyways.



37 posted on 11/02/2005 10:16:43 PM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: bitt

Thanks for the welcome. I am well read on this topic, I just get tired of seeing this scare being amplified by MSM.

There is no "pandemic", and no human form of the H51n1 flu virus... yet. It just a "possibility".

It has always been a possibility. The spannish flu which killed millions is an example of what COULD happen, but the possibility of that happening is very slim, but possible- each and every day.

At least we are much better equipped to deal with something like this than we were a decade ago.
It's really not anything to worry too much about, and it is certainly irresponsible of MSM trying to create a scare.
Wash your hands often, especially at work and in public when you use public facilities and you will go a long ways toward protecting yourself from becoming sick from any kind of flu or disease.


38 posted on 11/02/2005 10:28:24 PM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Plutarch
Sorry, I should have given more detail. They lived in Philadelphia, which based on my late night memory had one of the higher death rates. In my limited early AM logic that would mean that they had most likely been exposed multiple times and still survived. ( as opposed to someone in Omaha, Neb.)
39 posted on 11/02/2005 10:59:24 PM PST by aliquando (A Scout is T, L, H, F, C, K, O, C, T, B, C, and R.)
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Yeah, and an asteroid crashing into the Earth COULD kill billions.

Just about the same odds as this avian flu killing millions.

To live your life in fear of these things is not only a waste of time and energy, it is just plain pathetic.

When God decides it is your time to go.... You are going to go.

Don't worry; Be happy.


40 posted on 11/02/2005 11:03:12 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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