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Day After: Lawmakers Squabble Over Ref C Booty
The Associated Press ^ | November 2, 2005 | ABC 7

Posted on 11/03/2005 9:15:31 AM PST by george76

Republicans, Democrats Disagree On What To Do With Money

One day after voters agreed to let the state keep an extra $3.7 billion in taxes...Democrats and Republicans were already disagreeing on how to spend it.

GOP Gov. Bill Owens said the money should be used to shore up transportation, fix crumbling schools, hold down college tuition increases and strengthen police and fire pensions.

Democrats said the state should restore Medicaid programs and ...

Referendum C suspends the tax limits in the Taxpayer's Bill of Rights, a constitutional amendment, for five years, allowing the state to keep money that otherwise would have been refunded to taxpayers.

Owens acknowledged the campaign caused a deep rift between him and conservative Republicans who opposed the budget fix, but ...

Owens said Colorado opponents, including Jon Caldara, head of a conservative think tank in Golden, were big losers in Tuesday's election, despite their claims they won a partial victory by convincing voters to reject Referendum D.

Owens said by killing Referendum D, voters allowed lawmakers to decide how to spend the money.

"Why on earth do they think it's a victory?" he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at thedenverchannel.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Colorado
KEYWORDS: moretaxes; referendumc; stupidvoters; tabor; voterslose

1 posted on 11/03/2005 9:15:32 AM PST by george76
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To: george76

A Pile of Money to politicians is like a Pile of S!#@$ to a fly...........


2 posted on 11/03/2005 9:17:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Whatever happened to formulas 1 through 408?.........)
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To: Red Badger; loreldan; Youngman442002

More money for the arts, and medicare, and illegal aliens...


3 posted on 11/03/2005 9:21:26 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Red Badger

Every politician who wants to suspend the taxpayers' Bill of Rights should be recalled and prosecuted... Democrats and Republicans equally...


4 posted on 11/03/2005 9:21:30 AM PST by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: george76

All of which we would do well to avoid.........


5 posted on 11/03/2005 9:23:51 AM PST by Red Badger (Whatever happened to formulas 1 through 408?.........)
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To: Publius6961

Every war that has ever been fought was fought for the same reason: Whoever wins gets to collect the taxes.........


6 posted on 11/03/2005 9:25:03 AM PST by Red Badger (Whatever happened to formulas 1 through 408?.........)
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To: george76

Memo to Owens - We DON'T think its a victory. And no, the wounds will not heal.

That man makes me livid. Glad to see him term limited.


7 posted on 11/03/2005 9:26:13 AM PST by kemathen7
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To: kemathen7

Some wish he could run again, so that they could vote against him.


8 posted on 11/03/2005 9:27:50 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76
Lawmakers Suabble over Ref C Booty

"Booty" describes Ref C perfectly. Booty for politicians. By the way, what's to squabble over? I thought they knew exactly what the money would be spent for. They better scramble to spend that money before the prisons open up all of their doors, classrooms are moved to cardboard boxes, and the elderly start claiming spots under Woodmen bridge.
9 posted on 11/03/2005 9:38:41 AM PST by loreldan (Lincoln, Reagan, & G. W. Bush - the cure for Democrat lunacy.)
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To: george76
D'OH - Owens thinks taking on more borrowing is a defeat?? I'd sure like to see what a victory would be. The bipartisan political class can't even agree on what to spend the new windfall on. That's only saving grace from the passage of Referendum C.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie. Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We're Know We're Dead Wrong.")

10 posted on 11/03/2005 9:41:27 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: george76

Is it my imagination, or are schools ALWAYS referred to as "crumbling"?


11 posted on 11/03/2005 9:56:08 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: AmericanChef

Yes, Crunbling ...as in send us all your money.


12 posted on 11/03/2005 10:08:38 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Governor Owens, how on earth did you turn into such a loser.


13 posted on 11/03/2005 10:41:18 AM PST by OldFriend (The Dems enABLEd DANGER and 3,000 Americans died.)
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To: Publius6961
"Every politician who wants to suspend the taxpayers' Bill of Rights should be recalled and prosecuted"

Don't blame the politicians. As the article states:

One day after voters agreed to let the state keep an extra $3.7 billion in taxes
Thieves will always outnumber the honest in a pure democracy. And this was the will of the thieves.

If this country ever had a national referendum in which the following was proposed:

Shall we enslave 10 percent of the working population so that 90 percent can do without work.
It would pass easily with somewhere close to 90 percent of the vote. We have completed the process of becoming a society of two wolves and one sheep voting on what's for dinner.
14 posted on 11/03/2005 10:52:49 AM PST by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: avg_freeper

Democracy is two wolves and one sheep voting on what's for dinner.

Liberty is that sheep with a gun.

BF


15 posted on 11/03/2005 11:12:07 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Largest tax increase ever for Colorado, I do believe. REPUBLICAN governor Bill Owens, the RINO.

A few years ago Bill Ownes was against this bill. After some campaign bucks and a federal run for office was handed his way, he changed his tune to being a Tax & Spend RINO.


16 posted on 11/03/2005 2:12:06 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

Owens also ended his political career as a Republican.

He could have been a Senator last year.


17 posted on 11/03/2005 2:17:44 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

I personally believe he is going for President.


18 posted on 11/03/2005 2:30:41 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

He will not get money, time, effort, nor support from many/most Colorado Republicans. He has lost his grassroot base.

He lost the conservative and the moderate Republicans.

It is not just C & D...He has been drifting way left for too long. What does he stand for?

In 2004, he and the party lost almost every open state and federal ( McInnis and Campbell's seats ) race...and lost the state House and the state Senate.

But I get your point. He may think he is going to the middle to get ready for a Presidental run.

He does not communicate with his base. Neither he nor his staff return telephone calls, emails, snail mails...


19 posted on 11/03/2005 2:49:23 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

True, so true. He may WANT to, but I doubt after any level of consideration by the RNC that he will get the support of the party.


20 posted on 11/03/2005 3:17:14 PM PST by CodeToad
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