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Did 'revoked' living willkill communicative man?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 4, 2005 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser

Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.

Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.

"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."

The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."

"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."

Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.

"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."

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To: floriduh voter
"A doctor DID certify that Terri had six months to live..."

SO MUCH information has reached as to the illegalities permitted in the decisions made for Terri. I didn't recall a doctor's false statement giving her six months. I do know that Michael Schiavo, with his ghoul atty. Felos (at the time chairman of the Woodside Hospice) deposited Terri there, without her family's knowledge.

Wasn't that hospice cited for medicaid fraud? I guess that's what you referred to.

I will check it out. I'm curious.

1,561 posted on 01/02/2006 10:54:14 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: floriduh voter
I believe that hospices AND nursing homes may be in the position to get away with cheating the Medicare/Medicaid systems AND also their patients. I do NOT accuse all of being dishonest.

I can cite a personal experience. My mother was in a nursing home for two years. She was sent there for rehab following a broken hip. The nursing home used their own pharmacy to provide meds to all their patients.

I questioned the med costs and compared them with what my local, chain pharmacy charged. Mom was paying quite a bit more. She also had a drug plan which she always used (courtesy of the large corporation where my deceased father worked and which he paid into.)

You can believe that her drug plan cost her a LOT less than what she was paying to the nursing home pharmacy.

I met with the home's head nurse to discuss it and request that I could order all my mother's meds and make sure they were always available to her.

I had to sign some agreement...no problem. I saved my mother an unnecessary expense. According to the staff, no one else did this.

I had to wonder how many other patients could have been spared the high cost of the nursing home's private pharmacy. That's one of the things that goes on.

On the other side, some nursing home patients put their assets in their childrens' name, for instance, and the government, you and I, pay for their care.

Dishonesty is rampant; Woodside Hospice may be just one of the culprits. The main point is that Natalee did not belong there and we all know why the adulterous "husband" put her there. By the way, have he and Jodie Centonze married yet? I haven't heard and you don't need to respond to that. LOL

1,562 posted on 01/02/2006 11:29:39 PM PST by IIntense (a)
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To: floriduh voter

Suntanned actor George Hamilton and Charlie Crist look like twins......

1,563 posted on 01/03/2006 2:45:22 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
This morning Scott Thomas' fate may be decided in court starting at 9:00am. May some justice here on earth still prevail.

Scott's fight

Meanwhile, here is another story on what can happen. Compassion if you can afford it:

Do the Poor Deserve Life Support?

8mm


1,564 posted on 01/03/2006 4:08:24 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All
Excerpt from the above post on denying life support:

Tirhas Habtegiris, a 27-year-old terminal cancer patient at Baylor Regional Medical Center in Plano, Texas, was removed from her ventilator last month because she couldn't pay her medical bills. The hospital gave Ms. Habtegiris' family 10 days' notice, and then, with the bills still unpaid, withdrew her life support on the 11th day. It took Ms. Habtegiris about 15 minutes to die.

8mm

1,565 posted on 01/03/2006 4:11:14 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter

On a lighter note, a glimpse of Florida:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1549824/posts


1,566 posted on 01/03/2006 4:23:27 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: joegarrity; Floridavoter; cyn; Ohioan from Florida; BykrBayb; Wampus SC; DadsGirl; tutstar; ...

Joe Garrity, you come on to these threads to attack floriduh voter or to spread some other sour notes. You never add anything positive, only negative, although in a very lawyerly way.

You post only to Terri threads, nowhere else. You act as the Johnny-one-note trolls in the past have done, to visit these topics only to plant dissention, not to really add anything.

Meanwhile you are cheered on at clownposse by a gaggle ripping into us at freerepublic vigorously lately.

If you are not a troll, why are you here posting as you do?

Are you the devil's advocate?

8mm


1,567 posted on 01/03/2006 4:49:22 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: tutstar
Please pray. My Sunday school teacher's mil was a an accident yesterday and has bleeding on the brain. She's in her 80's , they're going to do surgery tomorrow to stop the bleeding unless her condition warrants it today. Already my friend is facing the battle that the mil's insurance does not want to pay for rehab.

Sorry, but this sounds a little odd. She was in an accident yesterday and surgery is still a possibility , yet someone has submitted to the insurance company for approval for rehab and has received a response? That sounds a little quick on the trigger. What types of rehab since the extent of the injuries wouldn't clearly be known yet? Getting approval on PT is going to require something a little more specific then it appears it could possibly be known at this early stage. Also to get an approval or a denial in hours would be shocking.

I am no friend of insurance companies, but this sounds a little over blown at this point.

Prayers for you friend and their family

1,568 posted on 01/03/2006 5:15:49 AM PST by FarmerW ("We have the freedoms we fight for, and we lose those we don't defend." -Rushdie)
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To: All; 8mmMauser

Prayers for Scott Thomas!

http://www.scottsfight.com/index.htm


1,569 posted on 01/03/2006 5:17:57 AM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: joegarrity
Congratulations! You've made the Mod Watch List!

Knock off the personal attacks.

1,570 posted on 01/03/2006 5:42:59 AM PST by Admin Moderator
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To: 8mmMauser
Baylor Regional >p>This is a Baptist institution, isn't it? Are the Baptists now into euthanasia too? Where was Medicaid?
1,571 posted on 01/03/2006 5:54:50 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: FarmerW

Many say that insurance clerks are running the medical system. Maybe these clerks are paid commissions for the claims that they can sucessfully reject. It's every man for himself these days even though many SPEAK of "compassion." Today "compassion" means a new federal program for the downtrodden, but it's the government that benefits, not the recipients, in many cases.


1,572 posted on 01/03/2006 5:57:29 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: 8mmMauser

I have found over the years that virtually all of those cheerleading the extermination of Terri Schindler knew very little about the circumstances of the case, and that includes the evil George W. Greer too. Forget the "R" after that name.


1,573 posted on 01/03/2006 5:58:53 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: joegarrity

This must be the smoking section.


1,574 posted on 01/03/2006 7:21:53 AM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: 8mmMauser

Waiting for an update about Scott's hearing. I pray it's going well.

http://www.scottsfight.com/index.htm


1,575 posted on 01/03/2006 7:32:06 AM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: IIntense

An admit summary to Hospice was signed by a doctor whose name I can't recall. I haven't seen the document since last March. That doc either said Terri was terminal or had six months to live. It's the old hand-off.


1,576 posted on 01/03/2006 7:55:49 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org Forced Exits 'R Murder - Call Your Congressman)
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To: joegarrity

1,577 posted on 01/03/2006 8:24:38 AM PST by amdgmary
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To: floriduh voter

You are obsolete.


Your post made me think - unless you are w/a hospitalized family member 24/7, how would we know what really is happening?


1,578 posted on 01/03/2006 12:04:12 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: BykrBayb

No news! Was it postponed? Nothing at Scott's site.


1,579 posted on 01/03/2006 12:11:49 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: All; 8mmMauser

We have a lot of religious people here, so let's please pray for the 13 coal miners and their families.

It doesn't look good for them, and they need a miracle.


1,580 posted on 01/03/2006 1:04:36 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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