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Did 'revoked' living willkill communicative man?
WorldNetDaily ^ | November 4, 2005 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 11/04/2005 3:24:09 AM PST by 8mmMauser

Family members are investigating what they consider to be suspicious circumstances surrounding the death of a nursing home patient at the center of a life and death tug-of-war reminiscent of the Terri Schiavo tragedy.

Seventy-nine-year-old Jimmy Chambers died in the early morning hours of Oct. 24 after the tracheotomy tubes that deliver oxygen from a ventilator to a hole in his neck became unhooked. Family members were told Chambers, a resident of the Anne Maria Rehabilitation and Nursing Center in North Augusta, S.C., apparently pulled the interlocking tubes apart.

"We're having it investigated. We're just incredulous," Chambers' daughter, Deanna Potter, told WND in reference to her siblings. "The last time I saw dad he was blowing me a kiss. I blew him one and he blew one back."

The retired dispatcher for Holland Motor Express died approximately 10 hours later. His death certificate indicates he died of "natural causes."

"Apparently, suffocation is a 'natural cause' when you're on a ventilator. We're contesting that," said Potter. "He suffocated. He didn't just pass away. He struggled and fought. And I'm just so angry."

Potter estimates it would have taken 10 to 14 minutes for her father, deprived of oxygen, to fall unconscious, and questions why the nursing home staff didn't come to his aid.

"The oxygen-saturation meter and his ventilator both would have had alarms going off. Four-thirty, five o'clock in the morning you'd think someone would hear this," she added. "That's the thing that really bothers me and makes me suspicious."

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To: 8mmMauser
"Otherwise, ordinary popular music had no effect and little evidence remained that he could really hear."

Uh, I don't like Oops, I did it Again either. Ordinary popular music is just that - it's too ordinary.

481 posted on 11/22/2005 3:18:52 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: floriduh voter

Trump probably figures he can get casinos into the coastal areas with Christ's help. Trump will, no doubt, put big bucks into this campaign and he WILL expect something in return.


482 posted on 11/22/2005 3:23:02 PM PST by pickyourpoison (" Laus Deo ")
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To: pickyourpoison

Crist reassured Floridians that eminent domain would not be a problem here but unfortunately, it already is south of the Sunshine Skyway bridge. So much for that reassurance. Knowing the role he played in Terri's death, he's a total loser and a sellout.


483 posted on 11/22/2005 3:31:33 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: BykrBayb

Link re: Crist and New Jersey is at www.northcountrygazette.org at the bottom where it's marked Archives. I may have left out the url this morning. (I'm going to blame advil cold & sinus - that's my story and I'm stickin' to it).


484 posted on 11/22/2005 3:49:47 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: pickyourpoison

Crist in New Jersey is at the bottom of: www.northcountrygazette.org. I forgot to post the url this morning.


485 posted on 11/22/2005 3:51:10 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: DadsGirl
The system is broken and probably is broken intentionally. Until people start demanding clear laws with safeguards, we are stuck with the laws of our states. There should be federal laws on forced exits since the Constitution doesn't seem to be worth a hill of beans nor does the bill of rights or the Declaration of Independence.

Be sure and have a wonderful Thanksgiving.

486 posted on 11/22/2005 3:54:48 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: floriduh voter

Ah, thanks. Hope you feel better soon.


487 posted on 11/22/2005 4:52:22 PM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: DadsGirl; cyn; tutstar; Halls; amdgmary
History of Thanksgiving from World Net Daily:

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=47525

488 posted on 11/22/2005 5:42:46 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: floriduh voter

"Music therapy and singing are ways the brain can sort information for people who otherwise have difficulties with memory loss and communication. There are musical geniuses who are learning disabled or are legally blind. The brain has a music section. Isn't that kewl?"

That is ABSOLUTELY kewl!

:)


489 posted on 11/22/2005 6:11:08 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: 8mmMauser

"...
And he would be in rapture if Beethoven were played. A friend who is a violinist would come and play at his bedside and we would never see him happier. He preferred live music and singing to even the best CD system and loved the singing in church, even trying in those occasions to vocalize, himself. Obviously he could tell the differences and had specific tastes in which classics he preferred.
..."

Thank you so much for sharing that.


490 posted on 11/22/2005 6:15:49 PM PST by Sun (Hillary Clinton is pro-ILLEGAL immigration. Don't let her fool you. She has a D- /F immigr. rating.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
Janice Sanford, of the North Country Gazette reports.

"...PVS is a clinical diagnosis, not one that can be proven by autopsy alone and you cannot prove a negative.

Terri was evaluated and diagnosed as being in PVS by every doctor who examined her, save for those hired by the Schindlers and supplied by the RTL, who testified the way the Schindlers wanted them to and this diagnosis was made long before the medmal trial, long before the fight over the medmal award and long before the final judgment was made in favor of Terri's decision to refuse unwanted medical treatment..."

SNIP

"So life expectancy at five to 10 years means I can be worth $5 to $20 million in these cases." -Ronald Cranford

Terri Schiavo Was Worth More Dead

8mm


491 posted on 11/23/2005 4:16:33 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: floriduh voter; 8mmMauser

Ever do a Bible study on music? Amazing the power it has... both good and bad.


492 posted on 11/23/2005 4:34:31 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: floriduh voter

You know the NY legislature is now working on a bill concerning the order of priority for health care decision makers if a person is incapacitated. From what I've read (see the North Country Gazette), it has no safeguard if the legal decision maker is actually abusing the person they are supposed to be caring for. Let me quote the SC ombudsman's office: "...it is not in the purview of this department to determine whether the medical decision maker is MAKING DECISIONS THAT ARE IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE PATIENT OR NOT." The ombudsman was referring to the SC law prioritizing the order for HC decision makers. Seems that sort of safeguard should be in the law, but my guess is that you are correct -- it would be hard to cover up if you actually had clarity in the law.


493 posted on 11/23/2005 4:40:06 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: 8mmMauser
Watch for The NEW Empire Journal. It's coming soon.

www.thenewempirejournal.com

494 posted on 11/23/2005 7:40:22 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: DadsGirl

The devaluation of human life continues.


495 posted on 11/23/2005 7:41:39 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; Goodgirlinred; Miss Behave; cyn; presently no screen name; Abby4116; Alissa; ..
On this Thanksgivings Day warm wishes for a great holiday and for appreciation of all we have been given.

Today we have a request for prayers...One of our own needs prayers.

Cheryl Ford just sent this request for prayers for someone in need on this day of thanks.

Dear Friends,

Tonight, I received a request for prayer from long time Terri supporter and dear friend of mine, Debi V, at _Children of God for Life_

her website

Debi's daughter-in- law Hannah was informed that she has cervical cancer. Hannah is five months pregnant with their 6th little unborn son who they have already named, Paul James.

Hannah has 5 other little children at home. Because she is pregnant, Hannah will not be capable of receiving treatment for the newly diagnosed cervical cancer for at least another 3 months. This places Hannah and her unborn son, both at risk. Please....I ask that you pray for Hannah and her family. Please ask the Lord for a miracle for Hannah and her unborn son, little baby Paul James.

Any comforting words you may have for dear Debi and her family, will gladly be passed on to her and are very much appreciated.

Thank you so very much.

Cheryl

Fight4Terri@aol.com

8mm


496 posted on 11/24/2005 3:31:58 AM PST by 8mmMauser (Jesu ufam tobie..Jesus I trust in Thee)
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To: All

Happy Thanksgiving to all my Terri friends here! Hope it is great!


497 posted on 11/24/2005 6:39:00 AM PST by Halls (Never forget Terri Schiavo!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 8mmMauser

Please ask the Lord for a miracle for Hannah and her unborn son, little baby Paul James.


When one stands up for goodness and light they go through the wilderness and Jesus is always with us. Heavenly Father, You are bigger than any cancer, this cancer is not from You, so I pray that you rip out anything that is not from You from Debi and baby Paul James. I'm standing on Your Word, No weapon formed against Debi and Paul James will prosper. Debi's faith will make her whole. It is done in Jesus' Name. Amen.


498 posted on 11/24/2005 6:53:53 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: BykrBayb; DadsGirl; 8mmMauser; All
"Post #446 - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1494762/posts?page=446#446 Wampus SC's post providing contact info. "

Sorry I'm much later to get to the thread than I usually am. I reread the post myself and saw several things of note. When I checked back on the SC website, I saw that sometimes use of drugs to control behavior (ie: of a lucid person) can be abuse. That certainly seems to be what happened.

The other thing was the number of occupations required to report suspected abuse. Failure to report is a crime. All healthcare workers are included, and there will be many around a nursing home. That may be the way we, as individuals and a group, should go in the future - because there will be more situations like this one. Medical facilities, being corporations, usually never face greater penalties than a fine - the individuals who directly ended the life don't pay. Use the reporting laws to go after every one of them as individuals. Every doctor, nurse, - everyone - who took any action that led to an unwilling death. I understand there are some legal maneuvers to force charging and/or trial. Don't stop there. There are also wrongful death suits, and possibly federal civil rights charges in some cases. Drag insurance companies into court, but only to find out which *individuals* mad the decision to approve the procedures that ended someone's life against their will.

Medical corporations exist under law only as a legal construct, and make no decisions on their own. Every time the life of a person is ended against their will, it was the decisions and actions of individuals that caused it. Individual people are responsible, and individual people must be held responsible. These days it may be impossible to educate them to morality, so they'll have to be educated as to what behavior will not be allowed. The medical industry is on notice.

And that's my rant for this evening.

And Happy Thanksgiving - be thankful we haven't given up yet!
499 posted on 11/24/2005 10:34:41 PM PST by Wampus SC (Serf City here we come!)
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To: Ohioan from Florida
"The euthanasiasts have planned it this way."

Yep, obviously so. Now you can't even revoke your own living will, and that's as insane as it is evil.

When Terri was still alive I said that in several years medical personnel would be killing people against their will, regardless of living wills or advance directives.

I was wrong. It took less than a year! The euthanizers are more deeply entrenched than many thought.
500 posted on 11/24/2005 10:42:23 PM PST by Wampus SC (Serf City here we come!)
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