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Scientists to invent time machine in near future (you heard it here First!)
Pravda (Trust but Verify) ^ | 11/04/2005 | Maria Gousseva

Posted on 11/04/2005 10:00:43 AM PST by Red Badger

The corridor of time does exist, but such a tour is trillion times riskier than a cruise in a basin with holes about the Pacific

A student from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology decided to organize a party and invited guests from the future, those who travel in time, to it. Guests may come in casual wear but must necessarily present evidences proving that they are not impostors. These may be medicines to cure AIDS or cancer, cold synthesis reactor or a thermonuclear reactor and things like this. Black hole

Modern science cannot give a definition of time. What is more, it cannot also prove that traveling in time is impossible. Anyone who goes for such a tour would inevitably grow older during the cruise according to the universal law of entropy growth. This is not a joke that meeting a grandchild of yours is quite possible according to the modern physics canons.

How can a human build a time machine? The recent sensational discoveries in the black holes sphere offers majority of opportunities for this purpose. Many of the discoveries have already won Nobel Prizes. Black holes are the vanguard of science, but it is not correct to believe that the existence of black holes is proved once and for all. Physics laws are symmetrical: if there is a black hole in which everything may drop but nothing can burst out from it, there must necessarily be a white hole into which nothing can fall but everything gets out of it. In other words, if one jumps into a black hole in one place he may jump out of a white hole in some other place. Does it sound crazy? According to Einstein's theory of relativity, there are solutions of this type. They are very instable, and a corridor from a black to a white hole may get closed because of slightest perturbations. This corridor does exist, but such a tour is trillion times riskier than a cruise in a basin with holes about the Pacific. Any physical body may be crushed in the center of a black hole.

The Director of Sternberg Astronomy Institute, the Russian Academy of Sciences, Anatoly Cherepaschuk, does not think the issue of traveling in time is too fantastic. On his way to the center of a black hole an astronaut will see his future and another universe disposed to our universe in the future. The astronaut would have to move quicker than the light speed to get into this universe some other way, which is impossible. Unfortunately, the astronaut will not be able to get back and tell what he saw in the future. He will not even go down in historical chronicles; outside spectators will always treat him as standing not further than the black hole verge.

Recently, some encouraging theories were developed to prove that some objects having no horizon of events exist in the powerful gravitational field; this allows traveling there and back in a time machine. American Kip Thorne and a member of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Igor Novikov, working in the west are connected with calculation of such objects. These objects are called mole burrows or space-time tunnels. Mole furrows are built of exotic vacuum-like material with negative pressure. In the tunnels, time goes back with respect to the outside space. Astronomers of the world dream of finding these mole furrows in the universe with the help of telescopes.

Many fiction authors described traveling into the past where people found the present-day world changed after the voyage because of their doings in the past. But physics theories state that these actions cannot be fulfilled with the help of a time machine: not only the past has an effect upon the future, but the future also influences the past. The cause-effect relations are very stable, and all events happen in such a way that they cannot be changed.


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KEYWORDS: pravda; sciencefiction; startrek; timemachine
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To: ArrogantBustard

Wasn't Looter Guy in that picture? He may have been Photoshopped out. Would love to see the "original".


61 posted on 11/04/2005 10:27:05 AM PST by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ERADICATED ASAP)
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To: Smedley
Time n A nonspatial continuum in which events occur in apparently irreversible succession from the past through the present to the future

"Apparently" is the most important word in this definition (which makes it meaningless, by the way). :-)
62 posted on 11/04/2005 10:28:38 AM PST by cgbg (Racism is identifying, quantifying, and determining social policy by race.)
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To: Red Badger

Actually Time Travel has already occured. It was invented in the year 3034. Many modern inventions haven't been invented yet. The atom bomb, for example, will not be invented until 2045 during the Interplanetary War. The bombs that were "invented" back in the 1940's actually came after that, and could not have been produced without future technology.

Amazing, but true! ;-)

P.S. to the admins. There is something wrong with the server clocks here. I wrote this note tomorrow, but it has today's date on it.


63 posted on 11/04/2005 10:32:01 AM PST by HoustonTech
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To: YouPosting2Me

Dr. WHO? The same Dr. WHO that outfoxes the Dialeks and Davros??

The Tardis has been invented??


64 posted on 11/04/2005 10:32:01 AM PST by Las Vegas Dave ("Liberals out of power are comical-Liberals in power are dangerous!"-ElRushbo quote.)
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To: FearlessFreep

"I saw this movie. It was called the Terminator."

I saw the X-rated version called the Sperminator.


65 posted on 11/04/2005 10:33:43 AM PST by BadAndy (Unnecessarily harsh)
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To: Red Badger

I want to go back and be nice to Bill Gates


66 posted on 11/04/2005 10:33:57 AM PST by woofie
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To: BadAndy
Or there was the Sherminator . . .


67 posted on 11/04/2005 10:35:25 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Red Badger
Don't try and analyze this speculative garbage. Time is an illusion. It doesn't exist Freepers. The only reality is the present moment.
68 posted on 11/04/2005 10:37:15 AM PST by moasicwolf
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To: Spiff

"If time travel was possible, where are all the time travellers from the future? They would be everywhere."

Just saw a program on this on the Discovery Channel. Looks like time travelers enter a parallel universe so we wouldn't see them.


69 posted on 11/04/2005 10:37:17 AM PST by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: Spiff
If time travel was possible, where are all the time travellers from the future?

That's the classic question, but I think I have the answer: There are better times to visit.

70 posted on 11/04/2005 10:39:52 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine (Is /sarc really needed?)
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To: toddlintown

I have a time machine, but it is currently stuck in forward gear at 1x speed. It is hard to get the overthrusters I need to repair it here in the 21st century.


71 posted on 11/04/2005 10:40:37 AM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Red Badger
SF author Larry Niven postulated "Niven's Law" which states if: 1) time travel is possible; and 2) you can change the past; then: 3) No time machine will ever be invented.

The proof is as follows: If you can change the past through the use of a time machine, then the state of the past will be in constant flux (first Kennedy is saved, then he's assassinated, then he's saved, etc. etc. etc.). As the past goes through constant revisions, eventually a past will be created in which no time machine is ever invented. At that point, the past will be fixed in place with no future revisions possible.

Thus, if it's possible to change the past through time travel, no time machine will ever be invented and thus you can't change the past. QED

72 posted on 11/04/2005 10:40:55 AM PST by PMCarey
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To: Larry Lucido


73 posted on 11/04/2005 10:40:55 AM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: moasicwolf

Since a 'moment' is a measure of time, the how do you know that the 'present' (also a measure of time) exists?


74 posted on 11/04/2005 10:41:04 AM PST by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: Red Badger

Shouldn't this have been posted on the Friday Silliness thread?


75 posted on 11/04/2005 10:41:05 AM PST by Rose of Sharn (I get the best answers when I talk to myself!)
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To: jude24

There are blackout dates....6bc-70ad
No can go


76 posted on 11/04/2005 10:41:31 AM PST by paradoxical
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To: Bigh4u2
I think a machine could be invented to allow us to be 'observers' of the past.

This is my belief as well. If physical time travel were possible, we'd be tripping all over people from the future, especially at momentous events. However, seeing visions of events from the past seems a little more feasible to me.
77 posted on 11/04/2005 10:44:12 AM PST by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: Kirkwood

Sorry. Can't help. You're in a parallel universe.

Now if there's an English telephone booth nearby with a guy wearing a long multi-colored scarf standing next to it and answers to the name "Doctor," ask him for help.


78 posted on 11/04/2005 10:46:51 AM PST by toddlintown (Your papers please.)
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To: moasicwolf
The only reality is the present moment.

I don't mean to hassle a fellow Freeper but your comment is hard to resist.

In what increment would you like to measure this present moment?

A full minute?

A second?

A tenth of a second?

A millionth of a second?

When you think about it that way you realize our common sense perception of time dosen't make much sense at all.

This article was talking about equations which use the "dimension" of time to analyze the universe (which has the irritating characteristic of having more than three dimensions). :-)

The bottom line--we understand very little about time. It is a major intellectual challenge--and worth pursuing imho.
79 posted on 11/04/2005 10:47:08 AM PST by cgbg (Racism is identifying, quantifying, and determining social policy by race.)
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To: Red Badger

"Everything that can be invented has already been invented."

---Charles H. Duell, director of the US Patent Office, 1899


80 posted on 11/04/2005 10:48:04 AM PST by LurkedLongEnough
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