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Why France is Burning
The Daily Mail and melaniephillips.com ^ | 11/07/05 | Melanie Phillips

Posted on 11/07/2005 10:49:11 AM PST by mojito

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To: Dunstan McShane

No, only since the 1920's. When Paris was beseiged by the Germans in 1870, Parisians let themselves be reduced to eating rats, rather than give in. They fought with great courage during WWI--the lists on war memorials, even in very small towns,are heartbreakingly long. When they ran out of transport to bring troops to the Battle of the Marne, the Army commandered the taxis of Paris to get troops to the front. (Take note, Mayor Nagin). But they lost their best and bravest, and the survivors have shamed them.


61 posted on 11/07/2005 1:01:31 PM PST by born in the Bronx
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To: dblshot
If the French government cracks down, watch for muslim reinforcements to start coming in to join the the jihad. If France does not crack down, partioning of muslim sectors will no longer be de facto but for all intents and purposes a state within a state.

Either way, the cathedral of Notre Dame will be turned into a mosque. The French won't care because after all, it's nothing but a "museum" now that Christianity is all but over in France.

62 posted on 11/07/2005 1:04:19 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Roccus
I think that 200+ year old debt has been repaid many times over in treasure and blood!!

Yes, and besides, they were acting out of national self interest when they stirred the pot with England's American colonies. They were in the middle of of a war with England and they helped us to distract the Brits, not out of support for our revolution.

63 posted on 11/07/2005 1:11:16 PM PST by Nameless
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To: mojito
France did Islam's bidding in opposing the Iraq war.

If the insurgency in Iraq were winning there, then we would not be seeing what we are now seeing in France.

Isn't this uprising an admission on the part of the "Arab street" that Iraq is a loser for them?

Could this be a deliberate smokescreen to obscure a gradual, stealthy exit from Iraq on the part of the jihad?

64 posted on 11/07/2005 1:13:08 PM PST by wayoverontheright (.)
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65 posted on 11/07/2005 1:13:44 PM PST by Bon mots
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To: STFrancis

Ping for later reading


66 posted on 11/07/2005 1:16:48 PM PST by STFrancis
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To: mojito

The surrender monkeys are having their bastille stormed all over again. Get out the white flags before they trash the Eiffel tower.


67 posted on 11/07/2005 1:17:38 PM PST by hgro (A)
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To: mojito

Bush Fault...


68 posted on 11/07/2005 1:19:02 PM PST by Sprite518
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To: MrEdd
without the fwench the fruitloop formerly known as prince would never have made that awful Raspbery Beret song...

Thanks - Now I'll have that dang tune ringing in my ears for a day or two!

69 posted on 11/07/2005 1:28:34 PM PST by MortMan (Eschew Obfuscation)
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To: Nanny7
How can this BE in socialist utopia?

Good point. Whenever a riot occurs in the U.S., the liberal media propaganda mill says it's because Reagan/Bush/Republicans don't spend enough money on government social programs for the poor. But all these riots are happening in socialist France, where everyone has free health care and where there are no "greedy" employers like Wal-Mart because the government forces companies to give lots of vacation time and benefits and it is nearly impossible to fire anyone.

The P.C. broadcast media are doing their best not to report that the rioting is being done by Arabs and Muslims. But if these are just "poor" people then the liberals have no explanation at to why they would riot when they are getting so many government goodies.
70 posted on 11/07/2005 1:29:23 PM PST by feralcat
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To: mojito
This is all bound up with the erosion of national identities across Europe.

"We will not be able to resist jihad without recovering pride in western civilization." Robert Spencer - The Politically Incorrect Guide (PIG) to Islam.

71 posted on 11/07/2005 1:39:52 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: Dunstan McShane
Well, some see Joan of Arc as part of the problem.

Some say that England really did have a right to the throne of France.

72 posted on 11/07/2005 1:51:26 PM PST by Siena Dreaming
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To: mosquitobite

The Crusades gave Europe 200 years of breathing space. After the Crusades, Islam was again on the march with victories in Kosovo, Varna, culminating in defeat at Vienna in 1683. The Crusades made possible the Renaissance and explosion of scientific inquiry.


73 posted on 11/07/2005 2:01:54 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: MindBender26

"Or simply follow the old British system of shoooting the ringleaders. And how do you identify the ringleaders? It's very simple. Every 5th man!"

"Anyone else wanna negoitiate??"

Corbin Dallas, The Fifth Element


74 posted on 11/07/2005 2:17:35 PM PST by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!!)
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To: mojito

"By contrast, the British and other Europeans have adopted multiculturalism, which means giving minorities equal status to the majority, and have bent over backwards to be accommodating to them and not give offence. "

This article and the above statement is very concise. What France can do about it, as well as all other major Western Democracies:

1) Limit immigration to 50,000 total immigrants per year, or scaled based on population. The immigrants allowed in must have a degree of some kind and a specific trade that can be utilized such as Doctors, Engineers, etc. No more temporary work or college visas, if you come into the country, you become a resident. These 'temporary' programs have been strongly abused in the last decade. It is too easy to become a citizen in a Western country now.

2) Discontinue any State benefits to any legal immigrant that has lived here longer then six months. After six months, an immigrant should have learned enough of the language to get buy and apply for a job. Employers can and should decide dress codes, not Muslims nor any government for that matter. The ban on head scarves was stupid. They should have left it up to employers who employ Muslims.


75 posted on 11/07/2005 2:18:53 PM PST by quant5
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To: mad puppy

"US gun ownership may very well be preventing terrorism in this country as we speak."

I don't know that it prevented an attack, but I can tell you US citizen gun ownership would stop this nonsense quickly. I think France is going to see a small civil war.


76 posted on 11/07/2005 2:27:34 PM PST by quant5
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To: mojito
The Muslims are equally determined to keep territory they feel they have conquered from the French state with which they feel no identification.

Well fine - let them keep their little palestinian states within France. Just cut off all of the unemployment/welfare, etc. and let them fend for themselves.

77 posted on 11/07/2005 2:29:37 PM PST by mollynme (cogito, ergo freepum)
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To: MindBender26
Or simply follow the old British system of shoooting the ringleaders. And how do you identify the ringleaders? It's very simple. Every 5th man!

Simple rule. Anyone who runs is a terrorist. Anyone who stands still is a well disciplined terrorist.

78 posted on 11/07/2005 3:06:59 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

IF the French saved our asses in the Revolutionary war.Which they didnt.---- Actually before the Revolutionary war they armed the Indians against us.---But IF they helped us at all it was because they wanted to damage the English which they had kept losing wars too, It wasnt because they wished to help us.


79 posted on 11/07/2005 3:09:12 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Cat loving Texan
'France's record on holding the line is highly suspect.'

Just heard a young French woman on tv saying it's all the government's fault because they have "ignored" the rioters for years. With attitudes like this it is problematic that France will choose to mount an effective defense.
80 posted on 11/07/2005 3:26:51 PM PST by pepperdog
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