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Virginia: Dem for Dem?

Posted on 11/09/2005 1:56:20 PM PST by jcb8199

The MSM is obviously leaving something out of the stories about the NJ and VA governorships--I seem to recall reading that a Dem was in power, and is replaced by a Dem in both cases--is this true? Forgive my ignorance on the matter, but I've not seen a specific quote.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: New Jersey; US: Virginia; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: jerrykilgore; kaine; markwarner; virginia
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1 posted on 11/09/2005 1:56:20 PM PST by jcb8199
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To: jcb8199

Correct


2 posted on 11/09/2005 1:56:56 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: jcb8199
Yes it is; I heard that in early reports and confirmed it today; only Dems can call retaining the status quo a great victory. If that is their definition I am for great victories for them in all future elections.
3 posted on 11/09/2005 1:58:13 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: jcb8199

Being a Virginian, it is hard to believe....but true.


4 posted on 11/09/2005 1:58:23 PM PST by TheLion
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To: jcb8199

Yes, but why bother the audience with useless facts like that when you can infer the states changed leadership in favor of a particular party?


5 posted on 11/09/2005 1:58:35 PM PST by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: jcb8199
You've got to understand. Maintaining the status quo is a great victory for Democrats these days.
6 posted on 11/09/2005 1:59:36 PM PST by SolidSupplySide
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To: theDentist

Here it is in a nutshell

http://exposingtheleft.blogspot.com/2005/11/tuesdays-election-results-mixed.html


7 posted on 11/09/2005 1:59:48 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: jcb8199

I think the spin is that the President's endorsement wasn't enough to elect a Republican in a red state. The rest of the story (i.e. the nagging fact that the current governor is already a Democrat) is indeed conveniently ignored.


8 posted on 11/09/2005 2:00:25 PM PST by Democracy In Iraq (When a soldier dies, a protester gloats, a family cries, an Iraqi votes)
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To: jcb8199

Yes. But two Republicans replaced a Dem and Rep for the next two statewide offices (Lt. Gov ande Attorney General).


9 posted on 11/09/2005 2:00:44 PM PST by kesg
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To: TheLion

I've heard Kaine is quite conservative for a Dem, meaning that a conservative Democrat won the election.


11 posted on 11/09/2005 2:02:56 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: theDentist
That is exactly what I was looking at--the Reuters headline is

Democrat wins signal trouble for Bush

How?! Because a Democrat succeeded a Democrat?
12 posted on 11/09/2005 2:03:11 PM PST by jcb8199
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You don't understand.

This proves that Bush lied and Karl Rove is mean.

Get with the program.

13 posted on 11/09/2005 2:03:19 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam Factoid:After forcing young girls to watch his men execute their fathers, Muhammad raped them.)
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also neglected is we won the undercard fights. Attorney General and Luitenant Governor


14 posted on 11/09/2005 2:04:17 PM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: jcb8199

Yeah, but to hear the Dems talk, this has been a complete rejection of the Bush agenda...


15 posted on 11/09/2005 2:04:29 PM PST by FDNYRHEROES (Liberals are not optimistic; they are delusional.)
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To: jcb8199

The Democrats havent won anything in the past 5 years...If it was the opposite with the Republicans holding onto power...the headlines would be "Republicans fail to gain more power"


16 posted on 11/09/2005 2:06:09 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first amendment doesn't work, use the 2nd)
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To: jcb8199

If holding on to the governor's mansion in a state that leans GOP is a great victory for the Democrats, then winning a fourth mayoral election in a row in a city where Democrats outnumber Republicans by more than 4-1 is an absolutely stupendous victory for the GOP.

Granted Bloomberg is anything but conservative, however Keane had to pretend to be conservative in order to even have a chance.


17 posted on 11/09/2005 2:06:19 PM PST by bobjam
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To: GoMonster

a.k.a We are making the decisions...


18 posted on 11/09/2005 2:07:18 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first amendment doesn't work, use the 2nd)
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To: Democracy In Iraq
The rest of the story

in Virginia is that a) Kilgore went out of his way to piss off the Republican Base and b) Potts sucked up 2% of the vote. Note that the Republican candidates for Lt. Gov and the Atty. General were (barely) elected. I suspect that if Kilgore had run a competent campaign he'd have won handily, rendering Potts' 2% irrelevant.

19 posted on 11/09/2005 2:08:20 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: jcb8199

Was it a win? Only if one understands that the Dem'crats were only holding place, and actually gaining little if anything. These two outcomes do not mean that the Dem'crats have much of a mandate even yet, or that any significance for the 2006 elections is in the cards.

It is like being dealt a pair of deuces on the shuffle. Still a long ways to go to fill a hand that stands a serious chance.


20 posted on 11/09/2005 2:08:53 PM PST by alloysteel (Payback and reality may not be related, but they can both be a b*tch.)
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