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Congresswoman: Three Al Qaeda Caught in U.S. After Crossing Border with Mexico
Wednesday, November 9, 2005 | Kristinn

Posted on 11/09/2005 4:49:04 PM PST by kristinn

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To: kristinn
Rep. Sue Myrick (R-N.C.) let slip a bombshell disclosure at a news conference today to announce a bill targeting states that allow illegal aliens to get drivers licenses.

Of course, NC is the state known for easy liscenses for illegals.

51 posted on 11/09/2005 5:13:31 PM PST by gitmo (From now on, ending a sentence with a preposition is something up with which I will not put.)
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To: Stingy Dog

Actually I am a mexican and my green card expired 20 years ago. I make $2 million US per year tax free and send it home to pay for family and friends to buy new hiking shoes....

Oh and I also get food stamps and medicaid. for life.

So by your thoughts, Osama Bin Laden attacked America and killed thousands of people....because the US - Mexico border is - what - unpatrolled?

You people have lost sight.


52 posted on 11/09/2005 5:13:57 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Is it your opinion that because there are terror cells already in the U.S., and other ways for terrorists to get into this country, we need not worry about the border? Sort of a "who cares if a few get across the border when we already have some here anyhow" kind of mindset?

I respect your opinion, but I strongly disagree with your perspective on the matter.


53 posted on 11/09/2005 5:14:52 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Cicero

Total agreement with you. I just think people who say Al Queada are coming to America because of "open borders" are not seeing it like you (or I) do. Their goal is to kill Americans, not to test the boundaries.


54 posted on 11/09/2005 5:16:17 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: ozarkgirl

How's that?


55 posted on 11/09/2005 5:16:48 PM PST by Thombo2
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To: MikeinIraq
Why send your operatives in the hard way when the easy way is just as wide open?

Do you really believe that operatives (terrorists) who would come across the border would be doing it the "hard way"? I do believe there are thousands and thousands of illegal aliens who have proved that theory to be incorrect. :)

56 posted on 11/09/2005 5:18:23 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

This one is good. Right from the horse's mouth, so to speak.

Bout time Republicans start talking and not waiting for approval from democrats.


57 posted on 11/09/2005 5:19:55 PM PST by swheats
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To: Chena

That is not my perspective nor is it what I wrote. You're putting words in my mouth. Only folks who are going to blame "open borders" for problems would do that. Read it again this time try to focus on the fact that AL QUEADA WAS NABBED. Who cares where it happened; the topic is they were caught.

"Hey Vern, mah dog has fleas. Whaddya think about that?"
"Gosh Vern, I dunno but I know it's the fault of that dagnabbed RedBloodedAmerican and his beaner-loving President"


58 posted on 11/09/2005 5:19:55 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Chena

I think that is more into an operational question....

First you would have to fly an operative into a city somewhere North or South of here. Get them through customs there, and hope they can trek up to the point of attack relatively quickly and safely (at least for their mission) or you could just drop $1800 for a Business Class ticket from the ME to Dulles and get them there in 48 hours....


59 posted on 11/09/2005 5:20:32 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: OldFriend
You are aware, aren't you, that the nineteen hijackers who murdered 3,000 innocent Americans were here legally.

Although that is true, do you honestly believe that just because the 9/11 terrorists were here legally means that ALL future terrorists will be here legally? Is there now some written rule that terrorists will now abide by because the first set did it a certain way? Or do you think it is possible that terrorists may choose to do it differently next time?

60 posted on 11/09/2005 5:20:55 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: kristinn

(squint) Freedom......(incongruous smile) Freedom.....we're winning! (squint)


61 posted on 11/09/2005 5:21:57 PM PST by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

I haven't ever read a post that said AQ is coming to America BECAUSE the borders are open; I have read about logical concerns that America is leaving itself more vulnerable, to AQ and other criminal elements, i.e., millions of illegal aliens, because the borders are OPEN.


62 posted on 11/09/2005 5:22:15 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: kristinn

Where there's smoke there's fire!


63 posted on 11/09/2005 5:23:04 PM PST by Prince Charles
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To: ozarkgirl

If you were a terrorist wanting to spend time and money without getting caught or drawing attention, you wouldn't come across the Mexican line.

If you wanted to steal millions from a company and have a good chance at getting away with it, would you walk in and hold them up at gunpoint or would you get a job as an accountant and start embezzling funds, transferring invisible money into an off shore account?
Don't answer that. I think I know. You're no accountant.


64 posted on 11/09/2005 5:23:23 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Velveeta

Thank you much for the ping...

I wonder why this wasn't in the news? < /sarcasm >


65 posted on 11/09/2005 5:23:31 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Info on OU Bombing, "Stoppered Vial" Case & Riots in France - http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: kristinn
C'mon, kristinn. You know they're all just poor workers wanting a better life. We should welcome them all with open arms. </SARCASM>
66 posted on 11/09/2005 5:23:58 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! --kellynla)
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To: MikeinIraq
19 out of 19 of the 9/11 hijackers were here legally.

19 of 19 of 9/11 hijackers were here before 9/11. Please don't feign ignorance. I would like to think that we can progress. Visas and airports are being diligently watched. I would go thru the area that isn't.

67 posted on 11/09/2005 5:24:16 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: Stingy Dog

I also drive a low rider.


69 posted on 11/09/2005 5:25:06 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: kristinn

BUMP!


70 posted on 11/09/2005 5:25:08 PM PST by Pagey (The Clintons ARE the true definition of the word WRETCHED!)
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To: gaijin
This is huge. This will get 500 follow up comments, or more.

Not really that hugh.

71 posted on 11/09/2005 5:25:09 PM PST by WildTurkey (True Creationism makes intelligent design actually seem intelligent)
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To: kristinn

Oh, yeah, I forgot: deport all the known and verified Reconquistadores and their fellow-travelers. After that, we can deport all the other illegals.

Subversives and traitors first, other lawbreakers next.


72 posted on 11/09/2005 5:25:31 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! --kellynla)
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To: hershey

We NEED to Protest!


73 posted on 11/09/2005 5:25:52 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first amendment doesn't work, use the 2nd)
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To: nicmarlo

No, separate issue...this congressman mentioned terrorists crossing the border into Texas.


74 posted on 11/09/2005 5:25:56 PM PST by HiJinx (~ www.ProudPatriots.org ~ Serving Those Who Serve Us ~ Operation Season's Greetings ~)
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To: HiJinx

Please add me to the Ping


75 posted on 11/09/2005 5:26:21 PM PST by HHKrepublican_2 (you cant spell liberal without an L an I and an E...If the first amendment doesn't work, use the 2nd)
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To: ozarkgirl
I would go thru the area that isn't.

You mean the place where MILLIONS OF ILLEGALS come through?

76 posted on 11/09/2005 5:26:23 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: ozarkgirl
Visas and airports are being diligently watched.

By the TSA? Are you kidding me? And believe me it won't be that hard to get someone through that we have NO clue about either.
77 posted on 11/09/2005 5:27:01 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: kristinn

North Carolina is a mini version of France. Islamofacist beachhead.


78 posted on 11/09/2005 5:27:16 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: MikeinIraq

heehee. Yes I can see it; the hijackers had pilot identities on them. Can you see an American Airlines 757 captain walking thru the desert? "Honest Officer, I am late for my plane!"


80 posted on 11/09/2005 5:27:23 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Total agreement with you. I just think people who say Al Queada are coming to America because of "open borders" are not seeing it like you (or I) do. Their goal is to kill Americans, not to test the boundaries.

In reading this thread I must have missed the post where someone said that Al Queda is coming to America because of open borders. I know that's sure not what I am saying. Everyone knows why Al Queda wants to attack us.

The crux of this issue is that we know there are terrorists who want to successfully attack us again. We know the different options they have for getting into the U.S. We need to secure ALL of those "options", not just a few of them.

I know I'm not the only one who can see that this is such a simple case of "commonsense", that it's downright amazing that anyone would even argue against it. wow

81 posted on 11/09/2005 5:27:48 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: HiJinx

ohhhh....gotcha...thought you were referring to the grannies....if you remember about/find that other article at some point...I'd appreciate a ping.


82 posted on 11/09/2005 5:27:50 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: MikeinIraq

Of course, no TSA employee is here illegally, either ;)


83 posted on 11/09/2005 5:28:39 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Some of live near the borders and have to deal with the "rabouillet" from points south, daily.

A brother of a RINO Congressman has found diaries written in farsi and arabic along with the rest of the trash in a pasture in southern arizona.

Bush has done more, DHS has policies which protect the illegals.

DHS only shows concern when it's not Mexicans.

The Bush administration and possibly President Bush himself do not have the best interests of middle class americans on this issue and has repeatedly made statements negating concern about illegal migrants.

The data is here, just look at the aliens list, read and learn what's really going on before you dis someone who disagrees with you, or at least give a rational argument without the ad-hominems.


84 posted on 11/09/2005 5:28:54 PM PST by axes_of_weezles (mainstream extremist (Ha))
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To: kristinn

Good thing were catching 100% of these guys at the border.


85 posted on 11/09/2005 5:28:55 PM PST by Amish with an attitude (An armed society is a polite society)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
heehee. Yes I can see it; the hijackers had pilot identities on them. Can you see an American Airlines 757 captain walking thru the desert? "Honest Officer, I am late for my plane!"

It is something that needs to be considered. But we need to reform other areas as well. We aren't out of the woods yet.
86 posted on 11/09/2005 5:29:02 PM PST by MikefromOhio
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Too risky getting caught and shipped out. Much safer to come in on a student or work visa from the middle east and get lost in the system and overstay your welcome. Heck it's about all the Homeland dept does anymore is round up people who aren't supposed to be here (expired student visas, etc) and sending them out.

In case you didn’t forget the sarcasm tag, let me point out a couple things. A small percent are “caught” at the border. Shipped out? They don’t ship out OTM’s..(other than Mexicans) They release them! Hundreds of thousands of them.

Visas? LOL! We have 3.6 million visa overstays that the government will acknowledge. They have no idea where they are. This administration had 51 agents assigned to find those MILLIONS. It’s not happening.

This isn’t the first instance of terrorists found operating near the border. Rumsfeld has warned about it, as have many others. It’s all on Free Republic. Amazing what one can learn. If you can't find the links, let me know.

87 posted on 11/09/2005 5:29:12 PM PST by WatchingInAmazement (You canít tell someone much about a boxing glove until it hits them in the face.)
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To: All; kittymyrib

It is definitely not that hard to cross the border... Too many achieve their goal to say otherwise.

As far as Al Qaeda using the borders - my guess is that these people are the "expendable" type of operatives. IMHO we have to start breaking up the cells of operatives who have been here legally for years - some of whom are now citizens - if we want to end the threat from Al Qaeda.

I will admit that closing the border might at least help in regards to making it harder for terrorists - and other illegal immigrants - to take advantage of the US.


88 posted on 11/09/2005 5:29:41 PM PST by LibertyRocks (Info on OU Bombing, "Stoppered Vial" Case & Riots in France - http://sweetliberty.alfablog.com)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

"North Carolina is a mini version of France. Islamofacist beachhead"

I don't think so, why do you say this.


89 posted on 11/09/2005 5:30:01 PM PST by jimbergin
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To: Chena

feh. If you think I am "arguing against" securing borders, well, there you go again. See ya, no time for you.


90 posted on 11/09/2005 5:30:09 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
If you were a terrorist wanting to spend time and money without getting caught or drawing attention, you wouldn't come across the Mexican line.

If you are going to argue, first learn and then debate. Obviously you are not up to speed and haven't done your homework.

91 posted on 11/09/2005 5:31:11 PM PST by ozarkgirl
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To: WatchingInAmazement

Nope, they don't release them. The people who I know don't.


92 posted on 11/09/2005 5:31:13 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: kristinn
...the recent capture of three al Qaeda terrorists at the U.S.-Mexico border.

Three? It doesn't count unless it's a stockpile of terrorists.

-PJ

93 posted on 11/09/2005 5:31:39 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: nicmarlo

Bound to happen sooner or later. Wonder how many others have previously slithered in here, without detection, and are now laying low in the mosques.


94 posted on 11/09/2005 5:32:18 PM PST by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: kristinn

"It it was noted at the end of a Charlotte Observer article by Tim Funk."

End of his career.



95 posted on 11/09/2005 5:32:30 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: jimbergin
I don't think so, why do you say this.

Personal experience. Lots of Palestinians, etc got student visas in the 1990's. Never graduated and never left the country.

96 posted on 11/09/2005 5:33:28 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: kristinn

Good find... bookmarking for future reference...


97 posted on 11/09/2005 5:33:41 PM PST by LowOiL ("I am neither . I am a Christocrat" -Benjamin Rush)
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To: kristinn

Did this perhaps happen about the same time that our Homeland Security Director decided that we needed to stop illegal immigration? Could the two events be related?


98 posted on 11/09/2005 5:34:31 PM PST by deaconjim (Some days it just be's that way)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

First of all, I was very polite in responding to you and I told you I respected your opinion, but that I disagreed with it. I also did not "put words in your mouth". I asked two questions.

I agree that we should all be thankful if in fact three Al Qaeda terrorists were caught crossing the border. That does not negate the fact, therefore, that terrorists decided to enter the U.S. through the pourous border with Mexico. Kudos for them! They know what WE know. That there is a great, gaping hole in our national security. And just because we caught three of them, does not mean we will catch them all.

Now, you can respond to me if you so choose but I will not get into a flame war over this issue. I will take the sarcastic parts of your post to me graciously this time, but I won't respond if you do not want to discuss the issue in a more dignified fashion. :)


99 posted on 11/09/2005 5:35:16 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Hundreds were injured and 167 men, women and children died when a truck loaded with improvised explosives were detonated.

Just wondering if AQ needs to have MORE bombs than McVeigh to be able to kill as many or more? /sarc


100 posted on 11/09/2005 5:35:31 PM PST by nicmarlo
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