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Vietnam war critic warns of similarities with Iraq conflict
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| November 12, 2005
| ROSA CIRIANNI
Posted on 11/12/2005 4:07:54 PM PST by jmc1969
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To: jmc1969
The real pity for them is that Al Qaida and AQIZ are far too weak to pull off the 'Tet Offensive' style attacks that the MSM is clearly waiting for.
The trend is clear: terrorists no longer attack U.S. forces in any number. They save their strength for hotels and marketplaces. This gets them news coverage, and news coverage keeps them in the game.
Ironic that the French media has decided to stop showing images of burning cars, because they believe it incites more people to burn cars.
What, then, does covering suicide bombings of non-military targets do?
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posted on
11/12/2005 4:49:49 PM PST
by
Steel Wolf
(* No sleep till Baghdad! *)
To: jmc1969
"MAPLEWOOD, N.J. -- The man who leaked secret documents about the Vietnam war indicating the federal government had deceived the public, said he sees a lot of similarities between that war and the one being waged in Iraq."
Yep! The demoRats are following the same dirty game plan they used during the Vietnam war. That's where the similarities are. But we have a new media here on the internet.... and they're not going to get away with it this time! Because their voices aren't the only one's heard anymore!
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posted on
11/12/2005 4:55:26 PM PST
by
GloriaJane
(http://music.download.com/gloriajane "ACLU Christmas")
To: jmc1969
Enemy agents are welcome at our high schools while recruiters aren't. How French can we get?
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posted on
11/12/2005 4:56:24 PM PST
by
Steamburg
(Pretenders everywhere)
To: Bommer
Boy ain't that the truth.
Problem is, so many of the vapor brains that comprise today's youth belief this crap, mostly because they are spoiled egomaniacs with no thinking skills.
Hubby & I had to turn off a 20-something comedian who started out funny, then got into the seemingly inevitable I-hate-Bush-he lied-people died-all conservatives must die routine.
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posted on
11/12/2005 4:58:34 PM PST
by
visualops
(www.visualops.com)
To: jmc1969
Both had Anti-American propaganda from the commie/terrorists sycophantic press and Traitorous spineless micromanaging egomaniac elitists in the U.S. Congress.
Yes, I see some similarities.
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:04:17 PM PST
by
Soul Seeker
(Mr. President: It is now time to turn over the money changers' tables.)
To: jmc1969
...Ellsberg said both the Vietnam war and the war in Iraq were based on lies,...Stinkin' liars anyway!
Bill Clinton: "If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." Madeleine Albright, Clinton Secretary of State: "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and the security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Advisor and Classified Document Thief: "[Saddam will] use those weapons of mass destruction again as he has ten times since 1983."
Harry Reid: "The problem is not nuclear testing; it is nuclear weapons. ... The number of Third World countries with nuclear capabilities seems to grow daily. Saddam Hussein's near success with developing a nuclear weapon should be an eye-opener for us all."
Dick Durbin: "One of the most compelling threats we in this country face today is the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. Threat assessments regularly warn us of the possibility that...Iraq...may acquire or develop nuclear weapons."
John Kerry: "If you don't believe...Saddam Hussein is a threat with nuclear weapons, then you shouldn't vote for me."
John Edwards: "Serving on the Intelligence Committee and seeing day after day, week after week, briefings on Saddam's weapons of mass destruction and his plans on using those weapons, he cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons, it's just that simple. The whole world changes if Saddam ever has nuclear weapons."
Nancy Pelosi: "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology, which is a threat to countries in the region, and he has made a mockery of the weapons-inspection process."
Sens. Levin, Lieberman, Lautenberg, Dodd, Kerrey, Feinstein, Mikulski, Daschle, Breaux, Johnson, Inouye, Landrieu, Ford and Kerry in a letter to Bill Clinton: "We urge you, after consulting with Congress and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions, including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:04:51 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals exist only if you think they do.)
To: jmc1969
Perhaps we should have an AP alert sot that readers can have their Air-Sick bags at the ready.
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:04:53 PM PST
by
SeaWolf
(Orwell must have foreseen the 21st Century Democratic Party when he wrote 1984)
To: jmc1969
The main similarity is that the left in the United States is doing its best to see that we lose.
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:06:46 PM PST
by
Gumlegs
To: cripplecreek
Anybody care to calculate how many years it will take to lose 58,000 American troops in Iraq at the current rate?87 years. Yup, just exactly like Vietnam.
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:08:33 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals exist only if you think they do.)
To: jmc1969
I won't be suprised if they roll out Daniel Berrigan from the nursing home to make a anti-war speaking tour.
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:10:48 PM PST
by
dancusa
(Appeasement, high taxes and regulation collects in the diapers of bed wetting liberals.)
To: cripplecreek
I believe 87 years total. So 84 more.
This guy's another moron. The biggest and pretty much sole similarity is that the politicians are involved.
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:11:25 PM PST
by
Fruitbat
To: Steamburg
Daniel Ellsberg, who became famous for his release of what became known as the "Pentagon Papers," spoke to a crowd of more than 400 people Saturday at a local high school in Maplewood.
O.K> people of Maplewood.... Wake up ! Does your school board have a hidden agenda or what ???? Better show up in your next school board meeting and raise some cane !!!!
I lived through this guy's last "15 mins. of fame" many years ago and what he did back then was a treasonable offense. It was far worse than what John F. Kerry did back then and I hated seeing his face in the news back then in his "Hippie solder" class A uniform. I still hate him for that.
enough venting... Maplewood, go find out who booked this nut (or even approved it) and remove him or her !!
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:11:33 PM PST
by
Tinman73
(Human nature requires We forget the terrible things We see. A truly intelligent person remembers it)
To: cripplecreek
Anybody care to calculate how many years it will take to lose 58,000 American troops in Iraq at the current rate?
Why the present rate. Sure at 80 dead a month it would takes us over 50 years. But in a lot less time than that the moslem terrorists will have nukes and then our casualties will make Vietnam look insignificant, we will lose 58,000 in one day.
President Bush needs to do a Harriet 180 from his present kinder gentler compassionate war fighting and get WW2 on these folks. Right now the rules of engagement are very much like Vietnam.
When a possible car bomber comes at you, they want you to make hand signals, throw flash bangs, aim for the engine, aim for the empty passenger side, then shoot the driver. And that is just car bombers.
Just like Vietnam our President allows the terrorist that kill our troops sanctuary in Syria and Iran. Actually its worse than Vietnam because at least LBJ/Nixon bombed Laos and Cambodia. Pres. Bush doesn't even lift a finger against Iran or Syria.
http://www.slate.com/id/2111432/ Adjusting body counts -
The scale can be further balanced. In 1966, U.S. troops in Vietnam numbered 385,000. In 2004, the figure in Iraq has averaged roughly 142,000. Comparing the burden shouldered by individual soldiers in both conflicts raises the 2004 "constant casualty" figure in Iraq to 3,065 KIA
"While the North Vietnamese fought a coordinated defensive battle for Hue City until they were annihilated, the terrorists in Fallujah fought in small packs, hiding among the tens of thousands of structures in the "city of mosques." In the three-week battle for Hue, 147 Marines were killed and 857 wounded. In the twin battles for Fallujah, more than 104 soldiers and Marines have been killed and more than 1,100 wounded in a battle that will continue to take lives, like the three Marines who encountered yet another pocket of fighters last week. "
In both Hue and Fallujah, air power was not used so as to save historic/religious structures. We should have leveled both places. Kinder gentler compassionate may work in politics but not in war.
In Vietnam, right up to the day that North Vietnamese troops walked into Saigon to the cheering crowds of Saigonese, the United States had the support of most Vietnamese. Tagline:
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:12:35 PM PST
by
TomasUSMC
(FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
To: jmc1969
And the war between the present administration and the intelligence community both past and present continues.
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:12:47 PM PST
by
kublia khan
(Absolute war brings total victory)
To: afnamvet
There are NO simularities between the Vietnam war and the war on terror. Period.
Except:
Syria/Laos
Iran/Cambodia
Well actually thats incorrect, we bombed Laos and Cambodia. We haven't done squat to Syria and Iran
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:15:00 PM PST
by
TomasUSMC
(FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
To: afnamvet
"There are NO simularities between the Vietnam war and the war on terror. Period."
Yes there is. The American left. They see it as being like Vietnam because they are acting in the exact same reprehensible, disgraceful manner as they did in Vietnam. They look at their own actions and say, "See, just like Vietnam."
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:16:29 PM PST
by
L98Fiero
To: TomasUSMC
I could not agree more (read the tag line)
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:17:03 PM PST
by
kublia khan
(Absolute war brings total victory)
To: jmc1969
similarities...
Vietnam War and Daniel Ellsberg
Iraq War and Sandy Berger
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:17:39 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Intellectuals exist only if you think they do.)
To: isrul
I'm shocked to see that pig, Ellsberg, is still here, after all these years.
Notwithstanding a quest for relevance and a jones for renewed media attention, I'm thinking his social security ain't payin' the bills......
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:24:18 PM PST
by
Hot Tabasco
(I'm tired of idiots and don't have enough ammo to shoot them all.......Jeez, I hate that thought!)
To: L98Fiero
The bedwetters, cowards, appeasers, the great unwashed of the left are indeed still part of the political landscape as they were in Vietnam. They are just more brainless now.
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posted on
11/12/2005 5:31:11 PM PST
by
afnamvet
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