Posted on 11/13/2005 1:46:46 PM PST by Rome2000
Anybody listen to this nutjob on MTP today?
Fascinating and very scary.
He ought to be arested for sedition with his relentless attacks on the CIC, underming morale and giving aid to the enemy by attempting to sap the will of the American people to support the war on terror.
Lock him up!
I'm sorry, I have absolutely no idea how you feel.
Not a bad idea. Arresting lefties would solidify the Base for Bush.
The answer is not to lose our rights, but to take the educational system back from the socialist left and educate our children so they won't fall for the lies and seditious attacks from them.
Clement Vallandigham, a notorious anti-Union zealot from Ohio was banished from his own country by Abraham Lincoln. He would not go peacefully though, nor could he remain long away from the war that fueled his hatred. Eventually, he would die in as bizarre a fashion as he had lived.
Clement Laird Vallandigham, a former Ohio Congressman from Dayton, Ohio was largely responsible for a growing and vocal opposition to the Civil War. The reportedly handsome young lawyer, son of a Presbyterian minister, was the undisputed leader of the Copperheads ("Peace Democrats") in the Northwest. He was also a notorious, thinly-veiled, Southern sympathizer who made speeches, to anyone who would listen, calling the war, "wicked and cruel," and which was quite obvious to all. Then however, Vallandigham strayed beyond the realm of reality and suggested that the Republicans only wanted to end slavery to further their quest for a dictatorship. The government had little tolerance for such reckless and inflammatory remarks. Unfortunately for Vallandigham, "treason" was then a clay-like concept that would be molded to suit the needs of the war effort.
On May 5, 1863, a Company of the 115th Ohio Volunteer Infantry, dispatched to Dayton, Ohio by special train, broke into Vallandigham's house at 3:00 A.M. and arrested him. The former Congressman was taken from his home in a nightshirt and quickly transported to Cincinnati where he would be tried by a military commission the following day on charges of "treasonable utterances." Riots broke out in Dayton in response to the arrest, with fires destroying an entire city block. Troops from Columbus and and Cincinnati were brought in and martial law declared. Vallandigham was soon convicted of aiding the Confederates, and on May 19, 1863 President Lincoln ordered Secretary of War Stanton to see to it that Vallandigham was banished to "beyond the military lines of the United States and not be permitted to return, under threat of arrest."
Don't be daft. The more he speaks, the more people he alienates.
Regards, Ivan
that headline is missing the /obvious tag.
Out of curiosity, how does it feel to be one of the few Republicans who's more out of wack then Dean?
You should stop holding in you feelings..
But unlike Teddy Kennedy he never killed anybody.
Unlike John Kerry he never committed treason.
Unlike Barney Frank he never openly committed a homosexual act.
Unlike Bill Clinton he was never impeached or convicted or disbarred of Lewinskyed in the Oval Office.
Unlike Hillary Clinton he never lost his billing records.
Unlike Web Hubble he never went to jail.
When compared to the run of the mill Rat, he's not so bad.
Don't hold back...
Preach to the choir.
I like red meat.
I can't beleive you... Lock him up... Are you serious. This great man is deserving of nothing less than piano wire and a lamp post.
Federal troops in Tennessee turned Vallandigham over to the Confederate Army on May 25, 1863. In June, President Davis of the Confederate States, having no use for Vallandigham, orders him to Wilmington, North Carolina to be guarded as an "alien enemy." That same month. Peace Democrats in Ohio nominate the the exiled and incarcerated Vallandigham for Governor. A committee of the Democratic convention demanded that President Lincoln reverse his ordered exile of Vallandigham. Lincoln refused. "Must I," Lincoln lamented, "shoot a simple-minded soldier boy who deserts, while I must not touch a hair of a wiley agitator who induces him to desert?" In October, Vallandigham, now exiled by the Confederate States to Canada, would be defeated for the Ohio Governorship by Democrat John Brough from Marietta.
On June 14, 1864, one year after being exiled, Clement Vallandigham slips back into the country and arrives in Ohio wearing a feeble disguise that fails to deceive the Federal agents watching him. Soon, he will be appointed National Commander of the radical "Sons of Liberty," a secret anti-war organization also known as the "Knights of the Golden Circle." Throughout the summer of 1864 Vallandigham will conspire with the Confederate agents in a bizarre plot to effect the release of 20,000 prisoners of war in Ohio, Illinois and Indiana.
"Hon. C.L. Vallandigham is at his home in Dayton, enjoying the rights of a freeman once more. He returned of his own will and pleasure, as he had a right to do, without asking the permission of the usurper Lincoln. His arrest and banishment was an infamous outrage - a mean act of despotic power, which never ought have been countenanced."
~ The Circleville Democrat ~
Friday, June 24, 1864
The newspaper, a highly-partisan Democratic paper also reports in full a speech by Vallandigham to the Democratic Convention at Hamilton, Ohio. The masthead of the paper proudly proclaims; "The Constitution as it is - the Union as it was." The so-called "Peace" Party flourished for a time, but ultimately faded away and the war, as wars eventually do, came to an end. Vallandigham returned to the practice of law and gave up any further ambitions of political glory.
In June of 1871, Clement Vallandigham, defending an Ohio man charged with murder, requested a change of venue to Warren County, Ohio. There, in his hotel room at the Golden Lamb Inn at Lebanon, Ohio, Vallandigham was rehearsing his final arguments to the jury. He would suggest that his client was innocent and that the victim had actually killed himself accidentally. To demonstrate the freak accident he proposed, Vallandigham planned to pull a similar pistol from his trouser pocket to demonstrate how it might accidentally fire. While practicing his arguments in his room at the Golden Lamb, Vallandigham pulled the pistol and, ironically, it fired, sending a bullet into his abdomen at point blank range. Clement Vallandigham, the notorious Southern-sympathizer from Ohio, once banished from the Union by President Lincoln, died the next morning at the age of fifty-one.
Copyright ©2001, M.T. Mitchell
So, tell us...how do you really feel about Howard Dean?
Yep !!!
He lost it when he lost the Democratic presidential nomination. He really thought he was the next POTUS.
He should be confined or quarantined.
EEEEEEIIIIIIAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
[Howie Dean making one of his best reasoned arguments on behalf of socialism and anti-American zealotry]
His answers about morality was to laud the one RAT candidate that dared to mention God. Of course Deans earlier derision of the GOP's Southern strategy as being only "God and Guns" came readily to mind.
What a dangerous weenie Dean is, but happily the biggest victims of his nonsense will be the Democrat Party.
That is scary.
In 1871, Charles Darwin himself could have cited Vallandingham as the recipient of a Darwin Award.
We've been saying that for years, but it doesn't seem to be working. On the other hand, you obviously can't just lock him up. You've got to catch him in a campaign finance violation, which should not be so difficult, if it weren't for the fact that the media won't investigate him, and the prosecutors won't prosecute him.
I don't know how in gods name did a certifiable maniac become chairman of the DNC, but while its a its a good thing for the GOP, its a bad thing for the war effort..
He ought to be arrested for sedition along with Reid, Durbin and Harkin.
They are actively encouraging an enemy resistance by charging the Commander in Chief and President of the United Sates as a liar who perpetrated a fraud to start an illegal war.
This is an actionable offnese aagainst the homeland in time of war.
I do think it's working to an extent - the Democrats simply have not made an real headway. They remain in a state of ideological paralysis, in which they seem stuck on blaming President Bush for everything. Much of the credit for that can go to Howard Dean.
Regards, Ivan
Thanks!
Personally, I'd like to hang the sorry POS! He's totally out of his mind.
What's really scary is i saw some poll where 54% of the American people now believe were were mislead to get us into war. The Bush administration waited a long time to fight back. I hope we did not needlessly lose troops because of the complicity of the Democratic party in our enemies camp.
SEC. 2. And be it farther enacted, That if any person shall write, print, utter or publish, or shall cause or procure to be written, printed, uttered or published, or shall knowingly and willingly assist or aid in writing, printing, uttering or publishing any false, scandalous and malicious writing or writings against the government of the United States, or either house of the Congress of the United States, or the President of the United States, with intent to defame the said government, or either house of the said Congress, or the said President, or to bring them, or either of them, into contempt or disrepute; or to excite against them, or either or any of them, the hatred of the good people of the United States, or to stir up sedition within the United States, or to excite any unlawful combinations therein, for opposing or resisting any law of the United States, or any act of the President of the United States, done in pursuance of any such law, or of the powers in him vested by the constitution of the United States, or to resist, oppose, or defeat any such law or act, or to aid, encourage or abet any hostile designs of any foreign nation against United States, their people or government, then such person, being thereof convicted before any court of the United States having jurisdiction thereof, shall be punished by a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars, and by imprisonment not exceeding two years.
SEC. 3. And be it further enacted and declared, That if any person shall be prosecuted under this act, for the writing or publishing any libel aforesaid, it shall be lawful for the defendant, upon the trial of the cause, to give in evidence in his defence, the truth of the matter contained in publication charged as a libel. And the jury who shall try the cause, shall have a right to determine the law and the fact, under the direction of the court, as in other cases.
I agree he's doing more damage to the Dems than anyone in the GOP is doing.
This bunch of go-along/get-along RINOS we have in DC right now are the ones damaging the GOP. I haven't been voting GOP for twenty years to elect people to go up there and compromise, and I'm thinking about stopping that.
GWB's speech on Friday did help me feel better though.
Oh for heaven's sake don't arrest Howard Dean. We need him to continue making an a$$ of himself every time he opens his mouth. He's losing more Dem votes than he's gaining with his wierdness.
Let him do his thing. The nuts rule the dems.
Thank you again, Rome. The other day, I glibly remarked that at least Vallandigham was no political dynasty (or we would know it), but now I'm not so sure. As I do a bit of genealogical research, I will pursue for a Vallandigham/Dean connection. Get back to you if I find something. LOL.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
JIMMY SMITS, ACTOR: Republicans have tried to turn liberal into a bad word. Well, liberals ended slavery in this country.
ALAN ALDA, ACTOR: A Republican president ended slavery.
SMITS: Yes. A liberal Republican, Senator.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
SHhhhhh, he is the best player on OUR team. (at the moment)
Why? Why won't they ever go away?
"I took a trip by myself in January of 2002 to Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria, and I told each of the heads of state that it was my view that George Bush had already made up his mind to go to war against Iraq – that that was a predetermined set course which had taken shape shortly after 9/11"
Jay Rockefeller quoted in this thread
I keep saying it...People keep telling me
i'm overreacting and engaging in hyperbole...
But the truth will out...Howard Dean is a
Hitler emulator...He stinks of death camps,
right through the TV screen.
Howard "the duck" Dean.
You are spot on. Couldn't happen soon enough!
"Hon. C.L. Vallandigham is at his home in Dayton, enjoying the rights of a freeman once more. He returned of his own will and pleasure, as he had a right to do, without asking the permission of the usurper Lincoln. His arrest and banishment was an infamous outrage - a mean act of despotic power, which never ought have been countenanced."
Sounds an awful lot like Cindy Sheepdip, don't it?
For me personally, I'm sure that Dean has become 100% certifiable mad from all the Infanticide he has committed.
A slow burning fuse has been lit in his cranium and I'm just gonna sit and watch how God is going to use Dean to destroy the democrat party from within as Dean continues to rave on in his madness (as if its not already there!!).
But then I could be wrong...
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