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Bush Risks Alienating GOP Over Iraq War
ap ^ | 11/16/2005 | TOM RAUM

Posted on 11/16/2005 4:04:44 AM PST by mathprof

President Bush's efforts to paint Democrats as hypocrites for criticizing the Iraq war after they once warned that Saddam Hussein was a grave threat could backfire on Republicans.

Polls show marked declines in support for the war, notably among moderate Republicans, especially Republican women, and independents — voting blocs that the GOP needs to woo or keep in their camp.

If Bush castigates Democrats for changing their minds on the war, he might wind up alienating Republicans who have done so, too.

The administration has been engaging in a rhetorical high-wire act in its efforts to defend its use of prewar intelligence — so much that some analysts have likened it to President Clinton's remark in his deposition on the Monica Lewinsky case: "That depends on what the definition of 'is' is."

Bush and his advisers have conceded that the administration was wrong in its assessment of Saddam's weapons of mass destruction before the U.S. invasion. So the debate centers on whether they misled members of Congress and the American people.

"The fact is this was a truly major failure in intelligence and analysis," said Anthony Cordesman, an Iraq expert and former Pentagon intelligence official. "But that does not mean that information was not manipulated or used to create a case for war that was much stronger than the assessments made before the conflict."

Well, maybe it depends on what the definition of "manipulated" is.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush43; gop; iraq; iraqwar
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1 posted on 11/16/2005 4:04:44 AM PST by mathprof
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To: mathprof
Darrel Worely had it right: "Have you forgotten?"

We can now say unequivocally, yes.
2 posted on 11/16/2005 4:06:44 AM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: mathprof

This one is off the charts. Who are these people and what reality plain do they occupy?

Just keep canceling those subscriptions, newspapers, magazines, all things MSM, the disease will go away -- and the trees will once again stand tall. Do your part for nature.


3 posted on 11/16/2005 4:07:10 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: mathprof

Why do I continue to be surprised at the depths MSM will stoop? Maybe because once I think they can go no lower, they do.


4 posted on 11/16/2005 4:07:53 AM PST by snakedriver
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To: mathprof

ap: If Bush doesn't let the Democrats get away with their lies and points out the obvious truth, then he risks alienating Republicans.


5 posted on 11/16/2005 4:07:54 AM PST by RobFromGa (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran-- what are we waiting for?)
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To: mathprof
The MSM thinks Bush deserves to be convicted where it gave Clinton a pass. Hey, no double standard here!

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

6 posted on 11/16/2005 4:08:04 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mathprof

GOP Risks Losing Support of the BASE For Failing to Back the President


7 posted on 11/16/2005 4:10:37 AM PST by Common Tator
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To: goldstategop

The White House decided to fight back, so the MSM had to redouble their efforts to impugn every aspect of the administration. Fighting fire with fire. Aren't they supposed to be impartial?


8 posted on 11/16/2005 4:11:23 AM PST by snakedriver
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To: mathprof

Tom Raum does nothing but hit pieces on Pres Bush.


9 posted on 11/16/2005 4:12:45 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: IamConservative

If the AP thinks a story of theirs will further alienate me from Bush over the Iraqi war, they don't know his supporters.
This story is just a Democrat wet dream...


10 posted on 11/16/2005 4:12:59 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: daybreakcoming
Google Tom Raum and look up his donations. It will be very revealing.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

11 posted on 11/16/2005 4:13:37 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Common Tator

Moderate and independent Republicans be damned !!!


12 posted on 11/16/2005 4:13:53 AM PST by Luker
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To: snakedriver
Editorials disguised as front-page news leaders. What else is new...

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

13 posted on 11/16/2005 4:14:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Tarpon

If he alienates those RINOs that's too bad. If those limp-wristed poeple would have been around in the 1940's Hitler and Tojo would have won. Unfortunately, too many in this country have become too comfortable in their materialism, egotistic and needing instant gratification. Wars have to be won in the time it takes to catch the bad guys on TV (not more than one hour)or we want out. I'm afraid terrible times are ahead for the U.S.


14 posted on 11/16/2005 4:14:46 AM PST by Russ
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To: mathprof

"The video implies that such Democrats had later turned against the war, even though Mrs. Clinton has been consistent in supporting Bush's efforts.... Top Bush strategist Karl Rove remains under investigation."

I don't see why you all say the MSM is biased? This looks like perfectly legitimate reporting to me. Just manage to get a line in that makes Hillary look reasonable and cosistant while reminding everyone about the EVIL Rove and how he is bound for death row.


15 posted on 11/16/2005 4:14:49 AM PST by warrior9504 (All gave some. Some gave all.)
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To: mathprof

Yeah, let's allow our enemies to give us advice. There's a winning strategy.


16 posted on 11/16/2005 4:15:18 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Luker
A RINO is one who p*sses in the wind before declaring a position.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

17 posted on 11/16/2005 4:15:20 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: mathprof

GOP Senators Risk Alienating Conservatives in '06 Elections


18 posted on 11/16/2005 4:15:47 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: mathprof

Is this reality creation or what?

We know that WMDs can be stored in a trash can and the Kurds know what mass extiction due to WMDs feels like. What am I missing?

Why is the GOP always on the defensive!? It's pissing my off. Why can't our people be smart enough to see this kind of crap coming or better yet just repeat what is already known often enough that this baloney falls on its nose out of the gate?!


19 posted on 11/16/2005 4:16:57 AM PST by Eddie01 (I'm coming to the conclusion I'm really not smart enough to post here.)
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To: mathprof

IMHO - If Democrats had put as much time and energy into helping the war effort as they have attacking the President, the troops would standing down by now.


20 posted on 11/16/2005 4:17:05 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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