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Camden, N.J., Ranked Most-Dangerous City [Keeps Title]
AP via TBO ^ | November 20, 2005 | GEOFF MULVIHILL

Posted on 11/20/2005 10:19:18 PM PST by ncountylee

CAMDEN, N.J. (AP) -- For the second year in a row, this destitute city has been named the nation's most dangerous, according to a company's annual ranking based on crime statistics.

Last year, the distinction seemed to hurt city boosters' feelings more than it harmed revitalization efforts. This time, city leaders are offended by the ranking, calling it unfair.

"We're doing so many nice things now. It's unfortunate that somebody always wants to bad-mouth Camden," Mayor Gwendolyn Faison said.

The city took the top spot last year from Detroit, which remained No. 2 in the most dangerous city rankings, to be released Monday by Morgan Quitno Press. The Lawrence, Kan.-based company publishes "City Crime Rankings," an annual reference book.

Camden, a former industrial city across the Delaware River from Philadelphia, is known for a history of corrupt politicians, drug-dealing and murders. It has been among the top 10 in the most dangerous city rankings in each of the eight years Morgan Quitno released them. By most measures, it is also among the nation's poorest

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: camden; crime; topten
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To: Tall_Texan
At least we've solved the new slogan for New Jersey problem.

I prefer "New Jersey is Forever."

21 posted on 11/20/2005 11:28:06 PM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ncountylee

A sink hole and been a sink hole since the 1940s, insofar as I understand. But they gave Candem the Battleship NJ and not Bayonne, so the heck with 'em I say.


22 posted on 11/20/2005 11:49:42 PM PST by jocon307
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To: ncountylee

I say we give Camden to Pennsylvania.


23 posted on 11/21/2005 12:16:04 AM PST by Nipplemancer (Abolish the DEA !)
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To: ncountylee

In Camden, a Mayor doesn't make their bones until they draw 10-long from the state.


24 posted on 11/21/2005 12:33:56 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: AmishDude
"Take that, East St. Louis!"

Now, Amish, I grew up 25 miles from the Eastside. The city has provided for several friends of mine to be able to retire at age 50 without ever having to venture out on patrol to rural St. Clair or Madison counties.

Sometimes, on Friday and Saturday nights, Highway 15 southbound looked like an ISP parade route.

25 posted on 11/21/2005 3:05:34 AM PST by woofer (I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow doesn't look good either.)
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To: Nipplemancer
I say we give Camden to Pennsylvania.

You've got that backwards. If we give Philadelphia to NJ, that will improve both states.

26 posted on 11/21/2005 3:10:28 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Democrats are guilty of whatever they scream the loudest about.)
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To: strategofr
Howard Safir had nothing to do with it.
27 posted on 11/21/2005 3:12:17 AM PST by Do not dub me shapka broham
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To: ncountylee
Here's my favorite quote from the article:

Some residents say their neighborhoods feel a bit safer. "I haven't heard that many gunshots," said Gracy Muniz, 22, a mother of three who lives in North Camden.

28 posted on 11/21/2005 5:16:31 AM PST by Charles Henrickson ("Not that many"!)
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To: ncountylee; All
Here are more complete listings of the safest and most dangerous cities and metros:

RANKINGS BY POPULATION GROUP

29 posted on 11/21/2005 5:30:52 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Chicago city native now living in St. Louis County)
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To: woofer; AmishDude; SCALEMAN; CARDINALRULES
Hey, out of 208 cities in the 100,000 to 499,999 range, guess which one ranked as the most dangerous?

St. Louis!

WHOO-HOO! WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!

IN YOUR FACE, FLINT!

30 posted on 11/21/2005 5:36:26 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Just outside St. Louis City, in St. Louis County)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Hey, out of 208 cities in the 100,000 to 499,999 range, guess which one ranked as the most dangerous? St. Louis! WHOO-HOO! WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE! IN YOUR FACE, FLINT!

Woo Hoo... add this to the STD stats and we are notorious.
Kudos St Louis.

Hey Detroit, you got some catchin up to do at #9. All you Detroit Freepers need to get out and commit a violent crime before the first of the year. You're slippin.

31 posted on 11/21/2005 6:52:28 AM PST by SCALEMAN (Pelosi is as empty as an Amish Phone Directory)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

I wonder if that is where they hide the bodies....?


32 posted on 11/21/2005 6:55:44 AM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: Tall_Texan
Actually, as a state, New Jersey does not appear in the top third of the list of the Most Dangerous States:

17 MOST DANGEROUS STATES:
1. Nevada
2. Louisiana
3. Arizona
4. Maryland
5. South Carolina
6. Florida
7. Tennessee
8. Alaska
9. New Mexico
10. California
11. Texas
12. Michigan
13. Georgia
14. Oklahoma
15. Delaware
16. Illinois
17. Mississippi

17 SAFEST STATES:
1. North Dakota
2. Vermont
3. Maine
4. New Hampshire
5. South Dakota
6. Wyoming
7. West Virginia
8. Iowa
9. Wisconsin
10. Idaho
11. Montana
12. Connecticut
13. Virginia
14. Kentucky
15. Minnesota
16. Nebraska
17. Utah

33 posted on 11/21/2005 7:29:46 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Missouri)
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To: ncountylee; PhilipFreneau; strategofr; Tall_Texan; Archie Bunker on steroids; A CA Guy; ...
I think the most significant list is the ranking of 330 metropolitan areas.

Here's an example why. St. Louis is the most dangerous city for its size (100,000-499,999). But it is not among the 25 most dangerous as a metro area. Since the 1950s, St. Louis City has lost about two-thirds of its population, while the population has increased dramatically in the suburbs, where now the majority of the metro lives. (Even as far as the city is concerned, 90% of the crime is concentrated in 45% of the city, and so many of the neighborhoods are quite safe.)

Most Dangerous 25 Metros:
1 Detroit-Livonia-Dearborn, MI M.D.
2 New Orleans, LA
3 Memphis, TN-MS-AR
4 Sumter, SC
5 Miami-Dade County, FL M.D.
6 Stockton, CA
7 Las Vegas-Paradise, NV
8 Florence, SC
9 Hot Springs, AR
10 Myrtle Beach, SC
11 Pine Bluff, AR
12 Flint, MI
13 Saginaw, MI
14 Little Rock, AR
15 Tucson, AZ
16 Modesto, CA
17 Albuquerque, NM
18 Jackson, TN
19 Charlotte-Gastonia-Concord, NC-SC
20 Baltimore-Towson, MD
21 Wichita Falls, TX
22 Houston, TX
23 Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale, AZ
24 Tallahassee, FL
25 Los Angeles County, CA M.D.

Safest 25 Metros:
1 Logan, UT-ID
2 Fond du Lac, WI
3 Glens Falls, NY
4 Appleton, WI
5 Sheboygan, WI
6 Columbus, IN
7 La Crosse, WI-MN
8 Oshkosh-Neenah, WI
9 Bangor, ME
10 Bismarck, ND
11 Eau Claire, WI
12 State College, PA
13 Binghamton, NY
14 Wausau, WI
15 Fargo, ND-MN
16 Nassau-Suffolk, NY M.D.
17 Portland, ME
18 Rockingham County, NH M.D.
19 Edison, NJ M.D.
20 Williamsport, PA
21 Owensboro, KY
22 Elizabethtown, KY
23 Jefferson City, MO
24 Harrisonburg, VA
25 Rochester, MN

34 posted on 11/21/2005 8:08:54 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Just outside St. Louis City, in St. Louis County)
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To: strategofr

Is Manhattan now safe for crackers above 125th on the West Side or 96th on the east?

What about parts of South Bronx or Brooklyn?

I spent 8 years there and it was as dangerous in parts of the city as it was in East St Louis or Memphis or NOLA or Miami.

I bet the marginal areas have improved and the goblins don't wild as much in the gentry areas but the hardcore places are still not great.


35 posted on 11/21/2005 8:17:25 AM PST by wardaddy (Captain Spaulding .....the perfect dinner guest)
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To: ncountylee

Camden is the city of children having children. Most of the crimes are young drug dealers against young dealers or committed by children under the the age of twenty one . It always amazes me when the parents cry saying their child was a good child and they got shot on a drug corner. I am not sure of current statistics but at one point the majority of the city of Camden was under the age of 21. A recipe for disaster. On a good note they have cleaned the business district up a fair deal, on the other hand the busiest place there is the welfare assistance office and the courts.
To all those people that think religion and family values are for the extreme whack jobs.. Camden is the place for you!


36 posted on 11/21/2005 8:25:11 AM PST by NTW64
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To: ncountylee

Camden is a war zone.


37 posted on 11/21/2005 9:31:44 AM PST by jjm2111 (99.7 FM Radio Kuwait)
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To: Charles Henrickson

"Actually, as a state, New Jersey does not appear in the top third of the list of the Most Dangerous States:"

As a state, New Jersey is an extremely affluent place, something a lot of people don't realize. It is really quite beautiful, overall.


38 posted on 11/21/2005 9:55:19 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: Nipplemancer

"I say we give Camden to Pennsylvania"

NO WAY!

We already got Philly!


39 posted on 11/21/2005 9:56:27 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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To: Charles Henrickson

"my favorite quote from the article:"

LOL!

It's the one you don't hear, I guess, that you have to worry about. (Bullets travel faster than sound, don't they?)


40 posted on 11/21/2005 9:57:58 AM PST by strategofr (The secret of happiness is freedom. And the secret of freedom is courage.---Thucydities)
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