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Those Defensive Darwinists
The Seattle Times ^ | 11/21/05 | Jonathon Witt

Posted on 11/22/2005 12:44:07 PM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo

THE first court trial over the theory of intelligent design is now over, with a ruling expected by the end of the year. What sparked the legal controversy? Before providing two weeks of training in modern evolutionary theory, the Dover, Pa., School District briefly informed students that if they wanted to learn about an alternative theory of biological origins, intelligent design, they could read a book about it in the school library.

In short order, the School District was dragged into court by a group insisting the school policy constituted an establishment of religion, this despite the fact that the unmentionable book bases its argument on strictly scientific evidence, without appealing to religious authority or attempting to identify the source of design.

The lawsuit is only the latest in a series of attempts to silence the growing controversy over contemporary Darwinian theory.

For instance, after The New York Times ran a series on Darwinism and design recently, prominent Darwinist Web sites excoriated the newspaper for even covering intelligent design, insulting its proponents with terms like Medievalist, Flat-Earther and "American Taliban."

University of Minnesota biologist P.Z. Myers argues that Darwinists should take an even harder line against their opponents: "Our only problem is that we aren't martial enough, or vigorous enough, or loud enough, or angry enough," he wrote. "The only appropriate responses should involve some form of righteous fury, much butt-kicking, and the public firing and humiliation of some teachers, many school board members, and vast numbers of sleazy far-right politicians."

This month, NPR reported on behavior seemingly right out of the P.Z. Myers playbook.

The most prominent victim in the story was Richard Sternberg, a scientist with two Ph.D.s in evolutionary biology and former editor of a journal published out of the Smithsonian's Museum of Natural History. He sent out for peer review, then published, a paper arguing that intelligent design was the best explanation for the geologically sudden appearance of new animal forms 530 million years ago.

The U.S. Office of Special Counsel reported that Sternberg's colleagues immediately went on the attack, stripping Sternberg of his master key and access to research materials, spreading rumors that he wasn't really a scientist and, after determining that they didn't want to make a martyr out of him by firing him, deliberately creating a hostile work environment in the hope of driving him from the Smithsonian.

The NPR story appalled even die-hard skeptics of intelligent design, people like heavyweight blogger and law professor Glenn Reynolds, who referred to the Smithsonian's tactics as "scientific McCarthyism."

Also this month, the Kansas Board of Education adopted a policy to teach students the strengths and weaknesses of modern evolutionary theory. Darwinists responded by insisting that there are no weaknesses, that it's a plot to establish a national theocracy — despite the fact that the weaknesses that will be taught come right out of the peer-reviewed, mainstream scientific literature.

One cause for their insecurity may be the theory's largely metaphysical foundations. As evolutionary biologist A.S. Wilkins conceded, "Evolution would appear to be the indispensable unifying idea and, at the same time, a highly superfluous one."

And in the September issue of The Scientist, National Academy of Sciences member Philip Skell argued that his extensive investigations into the matter corroborated Wilkins' view. Biologist Roland Hirsch, a program manager in the U.S. Office of Biological and Environmental Research, goes even further, noting that Darwinism has made a series of incorrect predictions, later refashioning the paradigm to fit the results.

How different from scientific models that lead to things like microprocessors and satellites. Modern evolutionary theory is less a cornerstone and more the busybody aunt — into everyone's business and, all the while, very much insecure about her place in the home.

Moreover, a growing list of some 450 Ph.D. scientists are openly skeptical of Darwin's theory, and a recent poll by the Louis Finkelstein Institute found that only 40 percent of medical doctors accept Darwinism's idea that humans evolved strictly through unguided, material processes.

Increasingly, the Darwinists' response is to try to shut down debate, but their attempts are as ineffectual as they are misguided. When leaders in Colonial America attempted to ban certain books, people rushed out to buy them. It's the "Banned in Boston" syndrome.

Today, suppression of dissent remains the tactic least likely to succeed in the United States. The more the Darwinists try to prohibit discussion of intelligent design, the more they pique the curiosity of students, parents and the general public.


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KEYWORDS: darwin; evolutionism; intelligentdesign
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To: editor-surveyor
Read the article.

I did, nimrod. I don't see any behavior even remotely resembling the Nazis or the Third Reich. That is why I said "name one".

Still waiting, by the way.

241 posted on 11/22/2005 7:32:51 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Right Wing Professor
Problem is, none of this had in the least relevance, since the OSC admitted it had no jurisdiction

I guess that makes it OK.

242 posted on 11/22/2005 7:33:08 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: Junior
we draw the line.

Who died and made you king?

244 posted on 11/22/2005 7:35:51 PM PST by AndrewC (Darwinian logic -- It is just-so if it is just-so)
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To: TN4Liberty

The evolutionist version of "agnostic" is any and all teaching that rejects the "supernatural." How's that for saying, "we don't know?"

"We don't know, but only one side of the argument is allowed a hearing in the classroom."


245 posted on 11/22/2005 7:36:05 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Stingy Dog
Why is it that evolutionists are obsessed with creationists/IDers? That is one question I've been asking of evolutionists, but in vain. They invariably skirt the question. Why do they have this desire to improve us? Do they think, perhaps, of themselves as God, or do they have an ulterior, hidden nefarious agenda? Like, the destruction of Christianity, its culture and the enslaving of its people?

Speaking of the "destruction of culture," I'm still waiting for you to repudiate Sam Francis and the quote by him you had on your profile page before we New Jacobins noticed it.

"Breaking down the sexual barriers between the races is a major weapon of cultural destruction because it means the dissolution of the cultural boundaries that define breeding and the family and, ultimately, the transmission and survival of the culture itself."

You've had ample opportunity to defend this quotation, or to repudiate it. Since you have chosen only to dance around the issue, I can only come to the conclusion you support the idea as expressed but lack the intestinal fortitude make a positive declaration publicly.

246 posted on 11/22/2005 7:38:11 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew

"The evolutionist version of "agnostic" is any and all teaching that rejects the "supernatural." How's that for saying, "we don't know?""

Since the supernatural is not observable, testable, or repeatable, excluding it from scientific theories is the only logical course to take. Science doesn't say the supernatural doesn't happen, only that it's methodology is incapable of determining if it has or hasn't happened. This has been the accepted limits of science since Galileo and Newton.


248 posted on 11/22/2005 7:39:34 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: Coyoteman
Did you try flowers and candy?

Have you found them to be better than an ape?

249 posted on 11/22/2005 7:40:24 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Stingy Dog
"osing federal grants and your ability to further dubm down our naive students. "

That's it, we want to *dubm* down our native students. lol

BTW, why do you care if they are *native* or not? :)
250 posted on 11/22/2005 7:40:59 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: vpintheak
If you believe that all clergy actually BELIEVE and preach the word of God, you are sadly mistaken.

Right. Only YOUR pastor preches the TRUE word of God. I get it.

251 posted on 11/22/2005 7:41:43 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Stingy Dog
So that's what you're afraid of - losing federal grants and your ability to further dubm down our naive students.

When was any mention of federal grants made?

Dawinism has been proven to be pure mythology.

Really? Citations please. Oh, I forgot. AECreationists don't actually back up their claims. Divine revelation, and all that.

252 posted on 11/22/2005 7:43:05 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: AndrewC

The Smithsonian declined to cooperate with the investigation once it was determined OSC lacked jurisdiction. It was therefore an entirely one-sided opinion by McVay about a case which he shouldn't have investigated, and to adjudicate which he was unqualified. Its merits should be evaluated accordingly.


253 posted on 11/22/2005 7:44:24 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Hyppopotamuses? BWAHAHAHAHA!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

BTW, why do you care if they are *native* or not? :)

Considering that deleted quote he had on his profile page about the horrors of racial inter-breeding, it must be a 'Freudian' slip.

254 posted on 11/22/2005 7:45:07 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
BTW, why do you care if they are *native* or not?

This may have been a Freudian slip in the Sam Francis vein. If they're not native, then they're immigrants.

255 posted on 11/22/2005 7:45:18 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: AndrewC
One does not need to be "king" to state where he or she would "draw the line."

Please bring back the original AndrewC. You're a pale substitute.

256 posted on 11/22/2005 7:45:59 PM PST by Junior (From now on, I'll stick to science, and leave the hunting alien mutants to the experts!)
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To: ml1954

We are on the same wavelength.


257 posted on 11/22/2005 7:46:02 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
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To: JCEccles
Modern evolutionary theory has grave weaknesses, the most grave being its inability to account for the creative, transformative role of intelligence in the development of life forms.

There is no way to scientifically "account for the creative, transformative role of intelligence in the development of life forms". That evolutionary theory doesn't address the unaddressable is not a weakness, it is a strength.

Intelligent design dares honestly to confront this compelling and vital evidence.

There is no evidence, vital, compelling, or otherwise. Therefore, Intelligent Design is dishonest.

258 posted on 11/22/2005 7:46:48 PM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: Liberal Classic

'Great Minds' and all that. LOL.


260 posted on 11/22/2005 7:47:44 PM PST by ml1954 (NOT the disruptive troll seen frequently on CREVO threads)
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