Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Ultra-sensitive microscope reveals DNA processes
New Scientist ^ | November 15, 2005 | Gaia [sic] Vince

Posted on 11/16/2005 3:40:35 AM PST by snarks_when_bored

Ultra-sensitive microscope reveals DNA processes

    * 14:02 15 November 2005
    * NewScientist.com news service
    * Gaia Vince

A new microscope sensitive enough to track the real-time motion of a single protein, right down to the scale of its individual atoms, has revealed how genes are copied from DNA – a process essential to life.

The novel device allows users to achieve the highest-resolution measurements ever, equivalent to the diameter of a single hydrogen atom, says Steven Block, who designed it with colleagues at Stanford University in California.

Block was able to use the microscope to track a molecule of DNA from an E.coli bacterium, settling a long-standing scientific debate about the precise method in which genetic material is copied for use.

The molecular double-helix of DNA resembles a twisted ladder consisting of two strands connected by “rungs” called bases. The bases, which are known by the abbreviations A, T, G and C, encode genetic information, and the sequence in which they appear “spell out” different genes.

Every time a new protein is made, the genetic information for that protein must first be transcribed from its DNA blueprint. The transcriber, an enzyme called RNA polymerase (RNAP), latches on to the DNA ladder and pulls a small section apart lengthwise. As it works its way down the section of DNA, RNAP copies the sequence of bases and builds a complementary strand of RNA – the first step in a new protein.

“For years, people have known that RNA is made up one base at a time,” Block says. “But that has left open the question of whether the RNAP enzyme actually climbs up the DNA ladder one rung at a time, or does it move instead in chunks – for example, does it add three bases, then jump along and add another three bases.

Light and helium

In order to settle the question, the researchers designed equipment that was able to very accurately monitor the movements of a single DNA molecule.

Block chemically bonded one end of the DNA length to a glass bead. The bead was just 1 micrometre across, a thousand times the length of the DNA molecule and, crucially, a billion times its volume. He then bonded the RNAP enzyme to another bead. Both beads were placed in a watery substrate on a microscope slide.

Using mirrors, he then focused two infrared laser beams down onto each bead. Because the glass bead was in water, there was a refractive (optical density) difference between the glass and water, which caused the laser to bend and focus the light so that Block knew exactly where each bead was.

But in dealing with such small objects, he could not afford any of the normal wobbles in the light that occur when the photons have to pass through different densities of air at differing temperatures. So, he encased the whole microscope in a box containing helium. Helium has a very low refractive index so, even if temperature fluctuations occurred, the effect would be too small to matter.

One by one

The group then manipulated one of the glass beads until the RNAP latched on to a rung on the DNA molecule. As the enzyme moved along the bases, it tugged the glass bead it was bonded too, moving the two beads toward each together. The RNAP jerked along the DNA, pausing between jerks to churn out RNA transcribed bases. It was by precisely measuring the lengths of the jerks that Block determined how many bases it transcribed each time.

“The RNAP climbs the DNA ladder one base pair at a time – that is probably the right answer,” he says.

“It’s a very neat system – amazing to be able see molecular details and work out how DNA is transcribed for the first time,” said Justin Molloy, who has pioneered similar work at the National Institute for Medical Research, London. “It’s pretty incredible. You would never have believed it could be possible 10 years ago.”

Journal reference: Nature (DOI: 10.1038/nature04268)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: biology; chemistry; crevolist; dna; microscopy; rna; rnap; science
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 1,081-1,1001,101-1,1201,121-1,140 ... 1,201-1,219 next last
To: Stingy Dog
Whatever emotional inferences I make, or anyone else makes for that matter, emanate from the Supreme One - God.

That's fine. You may of course believe whatever you choose.

Just don't pretend that chosen belief is physical evidence, and I have no quarrel with you.

1,101 posted on 11/18/2005 1:35:00 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1099 | View Replies]

To: Fester Chugabrew
"Hehehe. Let's take a car over to some aboriginal tribe and set it out in the forest without their knowledge. Then, when they happen upon it, we can record their reaction and see if they are so stupid as to think it sprung up out of the ground as a product of something totally unguided, totally undesigned, totally unintelligent. Just a fluke in every day matter. Just "nature taking its course." Hahahaha!"

When the conquistadors came to parts of the Americas, the natives thought that they were being attacked by a race of man-horses, because they had never seen a horse before. Why is it so odd that someone who had no knowledge of automobiles would be stumped at what they were? What criteria would they use to rule out natural causes?

"In case you didn't notice, regularity and order are inherent in items that are intelligently designed."

And also in things that act naturally. You have redefined regularity and order to by synonymous with intelligent design. Well duh! Of course you are going to be able to *prove* your claim, it's a circular argument! Oh, excuse me, you don't think that logical fallacies are incompatible with a good scientific theory. I almost forgot
1,102 posted on 11/18/2005 1:36:29 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1097 | View Replies]

To: Stingy Dog
"Whatever emotional inferences I make, or anyone else makes for that matter, emanate from the Supreme One - God."

So, my emotional inference is that it is ok to kill babies, that came from God?

BTW, just saw your homepage. What exactly do you mean by,

""Breaking down the sexual barriers between the races is a major weapon of cultural destruction because it means the dissolution of the cultural boundaries that define breeding and the family and, ultimately, the transmission and survival of the culture itself."

Are you a racist? I noticed that statement came from an article (http://www.vdare.com/asp/printPage.asp?url=http://www.vdare.com/francis/041126_football.htm) that also said this:

"But that wasn't the point, was it? The point was not just to hurl a pie in the face of morals and good taste but also of white racial and cultural identity. The message of the ad was that white women are eager to have sex with black men, that they should be eager, and that black men should take them up on it.

So far only one voice has mentioned the ad's racial meaning and denounced its "insensitivity" (to blacks)—that of black Indianapolis Colts coach Tony Dungy.

Blacks are permitted to notice race. Whites aren't.

But the ad's message also was that interracial sex is normal and legitimate, a fairly radical concept for both the dominant media as well as its audience."

What is wrong with interracial relationships?
1,103 posted on 11/18/2005 1:43:27 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1099 | View Replies]

Comment #1,104 Removed by Moderator

Comment #1,105 Removed by Moderator

To: Stingy Dog
"Are you saying it is or it is not. Make it declaratively. Is it ok to kill babies? "

I'm asking you. You said that all emotional inferences come from God. Balls in your court.

BTW, what do you have that loathsome quote on your homepage? Second time asking.
1,106 posted on 11/18/2005 1:51:34 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1105 | View Replies]

To: Stingy Dog

Do you really believe that your feelings are physical evidence?


1,107 posted on 11/18/2005 1:53:03 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1104 | View Replies]

To: CarolinaGuitarman

Not exactly "synonymous," not exactly coterminous either, but "inherent in." That is to say, every designed object has regularity and order. Where we find regularity and order, therefore, it is not necessarily unreasonable, or unscientific, to infer design.

Most of Western science has begun with the assumption that God created the heavens and the earth and still sustains them. It is a sound working assumption. It is no surprise that science is chock-full of evidences to show an intelligent designer was, and is, involved with the creation. The information contained in a single strand of DNA is just one small case in point.


1,108 posted on 11/18/2005 1:53:34 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1102 | View Replies]

To: CarolinaGuitarman; Stingy Dog
BTW, what do you have that loathsome quote on your homepage? Second time asking.

Oh my God. I didn't check out his homepage.

"Breaking down the sexual barriers between the races is a major weapon of cultural destruction because it means the dissolution of the cultural boundaries that define breeding and the family and, ultimately, the transmission and survival of the culture itself."

That's disgusting.

1,109 posted on 11/18/2005 1:54:55 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1106 | View Replies]

To: Fester Chugabrew

"That is to say, every designed object has regularity and order."

So every time you see regularity and order, you see design. How wonderfully tautological.

"Most of Western science has begun with the assumption that God created the heavens and the earth and still sustains them. "

NO scientific theory incorporates the supernatural. Not one.


1,110 posted on 11/18/2005 1:56:28 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1108 | View Replies]

To: highball

Look at the origin of the quote, it was in this article:

http://www.vdare.com/asp/printPage.asp?url=http://www.vdare.com/francis/041126_football.htm


Very revealing.


1,111 posted on 11/18/2005 1:57:28 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is a grandeur in this view of life...")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1109 | View Replies]

To: CarolinaGuitarman

Yes, design is self-evident in more ways than one.


1,112 posted on 11/18/2005 1:59:02 PM PST by Fester Chugabrew
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1110 | View Replies]

To: CarolinaGuitarman
Very revealing.

It just gets more and more disgusting.

1,113 posted on 11/18/2005 2:01:14 PM PST by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1111 | View Replies]

To: Fester Chugabrew; CarolinaGuitarman; WildHorseCrash; BlueStateDepression; highball; ...
Fester, you have given us a very clear example of why the current incarnation of ID is not nor can be considered science.

You have stated that absolutely everything of 'order' (a slippery term at best), from the laws of physics to a cube of water shows evidence of design. More than that you have repeatedly confirmed that the designer is and can only be the Christian God.

Science is not just something people do, it is a methodology, a set of logical steps based on the same principles as formal critical thinking, an algorithm that has developed over time to enable us to determine with a level of certainty beyond what previous methods, or lack of methods, gave us, accurate knowledge of our natural surroundings. A major part of that certainty comes from our ability to devise and perform tests that rely heavily on the consistency we can expect from our natural surroundings; that consistency which we describe mathematically and label 'law'.

You have created a universe where everything and anything that can be construed as having 'order' is evidence of a designer, a designer that you have given the power to not only 'create' irrespective of the laws of physics but can also interfere at will with the observation, investigation and testing of all phenomena.

There is no way to conclusively know that this designer is or is not interfering with a given test. Since the scientific method was developed to give us some level of certainty beyond what simple observation gives us, anything that decreases that certainty will also decrease the benefit of using the scientific method and may take us back to the level of uncertainty we had before the development of the scientific method. In this case, science becomes meaningless.

Because you desire the universe to not only be designed, but designed by your specific God, and I believe you understand the difficulty a designer that is essentially above physical laws introduces to, and in fact invalidates, the scientific method, you have broadened the definition of science to be simply observation by a human. This enables you to say, without evidence I must add, that any putative 'order' in the universe is evidence of a non-human designer, going so far as to implicitly equate order with design. Your redefinition of science and consequently the scientific method has made the term 'science' and the use of the scientific method meaningless.

Interestingly, if you insist that the designer of the universe can be tested for because he/she/it will not and has not interfered with the consistency of physical laws, then you have to accept the age of the universe, the age of the earth, the fossil record and all of evolution, all of which rely on the 'unchanging' universe.

1,114 posted on 11/18/2005 2:05:48 PM PST by b_sharp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1068 | View Replies]

DogDidit placemark


1,115 posted on 11/18/2005 2:16:25 PM PST by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1113 | View Replies]

To: Fester Chugabrew
"Had you never seen an automobile in your life, would you think it sprung up in the desert the first time you saw one?"

We would know the car as a 'designed', and more importantly 'manufactured' object because we would notice the similarity of patterns, materials, form, manufacturing methods (tool marks) and the lack of 'apparent' randomness we see in nature, to other artifacts we have observed humans creating. This does not mean we can determine the designedness of nonhuman creations.

Your analogy of a car in a desert is inaccurate. The design you stipulate is inherent in DNA, a cube of water, or any other phenomenon we do not create can not be determined in the same way we determine design in human created artifacts. Because of the possibility of nonhuman designers, we need to design a more rigorous method that can be used without any knowledge of the designer. So far this has not been developed.

1,116 posted on 11/18/2005 2:23:35 PM PST by b_sharp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1076 | View Replies]

To: Fester Chugabrew
"The physical evidence continues to reveal, as it should, order and design.

No, the physical evidence continues to reveal 'order' and regularity from which our primate brains discern patterns. You claim - nothing but a bald assertion - that this is because of design. We claim it is because of the physical attributes of the universe. By the way, 'laws' are nothing but descriptions of the observation of highly consistent phenomena.

1,117 posted on 11/18/2005 2:36:03 PM PST by b_sharp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1084 | View Replies]

To: Fester Chugabrew
"I said it is not unreasonable, or unscientific, to infer a designer when we see something that is designed.

Who would disagree with that? It appears you don't understand the focus of the discussion. The problem is not in inferring a designer from something that is demonstrably designed, but in determining what is and is not truly designed. Please address the correct problem.

1,118 posted on 11/18/2005 2:41:10 PM PST by b_sharp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1094 | View Replies]

To: Fester Chugabrew; Coyoteman
"Hehehe. Let's take a car over to some aboriginal tribe and set it out in the forest without their knowledge. Then, when they happen upon it, we can record their reaction and see if they are so stupid as to think it sprung up out of the ground as a product of something totally unguided, totally undesigned, totally unintelligent. Just a fluke in every day matter. Just "nature taking its course." Hahahaha!

Your suggestion of this shows you have no idea how we differentiate between human designed and manufactured objects, and naturally occurring objects. It also shows a lack of knowledge about aboriginals.

1,119 posted on 11/18/2005 2:44:54 PM PST by b_sharp
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1097 | View Replies]

To: Stingy Dog; highball; CarolinaGuitarman
I had a quote here, but New Jacobins forced me to pull it out.

They are of their father the devil!

No one forced you to take it down, anymore than people forced you to put it up.

1,120 posted on 11/18/2005 2:49:04 PM PST by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1109 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 1,081-1,1001,101-1,1201,121-1,140 ... 1,201-1,219 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson