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Bosnia: Haven for Islamic radicals?
International Herald Tribune ^ | November 27, 2005 | Nicholas Woods

Posted on 11/28/2005 5:04:53 PM PST by dj_animal_2000

Bosnia: Haven for Islamic radicals?

By Nicholas Wood International Herald Tribune

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 27, 2005

SARAJEVO A police raid last month on an apartment near this city's airport uncovered evidence of an imminent suicide bombing, intensifying the fears of Western security services that Bosnia is becoming a haven for Islamic radicals.

The raid, which was carried out after an extensive surveillance operation by the Bosnian police and Western intelligence services, turned up an arsenal of weapons in the apartment, including suicide vests, about 30 kilograms, or 65 pounds, of exploding bullets and high explosive, and a machine pistol.

Investigators said they also found a videotape in which three men - at least two of them teenagers - are seen asking forgiveness from God for their "sacrifice," a recording made just hours before the raid. The two teenagers were arrested.

(Excerpt) Read more at iht.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedabalkans; alqaedabosnia; balkans; bosnia; clintonistas; clintonlegacy; clintonsquagmire; globaljihad; islamofascists; islamonazis; serbia; sorosfluffers; wrongplace; wrongwar
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To: Hoplite

The only "bi-partisan hypocrisy" around here is by you defending a bunch of terrorists. How A-typical. And you have still to answer dj_animals post regarding that Bosnian site.


41 posted on 11/30/2005 5:02:10 PM PST by apro
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To: apro
apro, I'm well aware of what was going on in the region at that time. The point was that the Greek government agreed to the bombing of Serbia and afterward even sent troops to serve in the occupation of Kosovo.

Of note, despite all the noise about terrorists in Kosovo and Bosnia, the only Americans killed by terrorists in the Balkans were killed by the Greek "17 November" terrorist group.

42 posted on 11/30/2005 5:44:43 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: mark502inf

mark502inf, I guess American service women do not count in your book as being Americans killed by terrorists in the Balkans, huh? Oh yeah and if I remember correctly an American service man died also. At least I think it was the Balkans...oh yes it was, last time I checked Kosovo STILL was in the Balkans. ;p

As for November 17, who's group has been dismembers for years now and recently arrested, claimed a total of 20 lives, which is 20 too many, since they first appeared in 1975:

4 American officials
2 Turkish Diplomats
13 Greeks

Also last I check Nov. 17 wasn't sending insurgents to Iraq to fight against the US troops that help save their asses from the Serbs:

"The editor, Kemal Bakovic, met me over a fruit juice in a grim neighborhood of Soviet-style housing blocks, still pockmarked by shrapnel. An Arabic-speaker, he had studied in Zarqa, in Jordan—the hometown, he was pleased to remind me, of the man described by the United States as al-Qaida's chieftain in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.

"We are all sick of wars here in Bosnia," Bakovic scoffed when I asked him about the Iraq troop deployment. "These guys, if they get killed in Iraq, they'll be killed for a foreign idea, not for their own country. Nobody will take care of their kids."

Some other Bosnian Muslims, he added, had already joined the war—on the insurgent side.

Bakovic told me he had run into a young Bosnian man who had just returned to Sarajevo from Fallujah, where he participated in attacks on U.S. soldiers."
http://slate.com/id/2119393

Oh and you forgot to mention the other TWENTY Americans killed on Greek soil by Muslim terrorists.





43 posted on 11/30/2005 7:25:48 PM PST by apro
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To: apro
I guess American service women do not count in your book as being Americans killed by terrorists in the Balkans, huh? Oh yeah and if I remember correctly an American service man died also. At least I think it was the Balkans...oh yes it was, last time I checked Kosovo STILL was in the Balkans

apro, you do not "remember correctly". Despite your eagerness for such an event to happen, no U.S. military personnel have been killed in Bosnia or Kosovo due to hostile action. Period. Hasn't happened despite the presence of tens of thousands of Americans for years and years.

In contrast, in places such as East Africa & Afghanistan, the Phillipinnes and the Arabian Shield area--where where there really are Islamist terrorists--our soldiers are in combat every day.

However, you are right about one thing, just as you posted, the Greek November 17th terrorists have in fact attacked and killed Americans in Greece.

44 posted on 11/30/2005 7:53:25 PM PST by mark502inf
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To: DTA
>>>>Serbs never are and probably never will be Democractic and CAPITALISTIC. Please don't EVER compare them with America.<<<
Beside being a racist Serb hater, you have no clue of American history


Ah accusation of racism..nothing shows a liberal more easily .Please tell me are there any Asian Serbs or African Serbs ? America is the among the most truly racially tolerant countries in the world.
45 posted on 11/30/2005 11:15:41 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: newfarm4000n
It is liberal projection that being racist relates only to the skin color. Blind hatred of distinct ethnic group, malignant generalisation towards a certain people is racism.

A White American can be racist when he denigrates fellow White American - pay attention how The South is badmouthed in movies and tv shows, 140 after the Civil War ended. (villains usually have Southern accent).

46 posted on 12/01/2005 7:55:08 AM PST by DTA
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To: mark502inf; Argo
mark wrote : no U.S. military personnel have been killed in Bosnia or Kosovo due to hostile action. Period. Hasn't happened despite the presence of tens of thousands of Americans for years and years.

mark, are you sure about that??? I"m sure the 14 y/o Albanian kid that shot and killed an American soldier with his AK is not regarded as a hero among his KLA friends?

47 posted on 12/01/2005 9:33:22 AM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: mark502inf

"apro, you do not "remember correctly". Despite your eagerness for such an event to happen, no U.S. military personnel have been killed in Bosnia or Kosovo due to hostile action. Period. Hasn't happened despite the presence of tens of thousands of Americans for years and years."

Oh but mark502inf, I don't remember telling you they were "U.S. military personnel", now did I? They were American service women & man, part of the United Nations police service in Kosovo. So no, it isn't my eagerness for such an event to have happened, its an unfortunate fact that it DID happen. Unless, like I said, you do not consider the blood of these three Americans as being "killed by terrorists in the Balkans".

"PRISTINA, Serbia-Montenegro - Authorities are investigating whether a Jordanian U.N. policeman who killed three American corrections officers in a gunbattle at a Kosovo prison had links to the Palestinian militant group Hamas, a senior NATO official said."
http://www.theoaklandpress.com/stories/042504/nat_20040425078.shtml

"Officials investigating the bizarre incident said yesterday that Ali had links to the Palestinian militant group Hamas, but they stopped short of calling the ambush an act of terrorism."
"Ali, a member of the Jordanian special police unit, smiled as he blazed away with an M-16 rifle. He was shot to death during an ensuing gun battle."
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/regional/story/187237p-162132c.html

Oh, I'm sorry is this considered a "friendly" fire incedent? ;p

"the Greek November 17th terrorists have in fact attacked and killed Americans in Greece."

At least November 17th terrorists are no more. Unfortunately the same can not be said about Bosnians & Kosovo Muslims attacking and killing Americans and other Westerners in Iraq as we speak. ;p

As this report below points out the reason we haven't seen as many bloody attacks on us by them YET in those Banana Republics is because of the "eyes and ears" we have on ground over there. Unfortunately it isn't a question of IF American blood will be spilled by them again over there but WHEN.
"SARAJEVO, Bosnia -- The raid netted explosives, rifles, other arms and a videotape pledging vengeance for the "brothers" killed fighting Americans in Afghanistan and Iraq. Police found the cache in an apartment occupied by an underground group that was aiming to blow up the British Embassy in Sarajevo, Western intelligence officials said."
"After the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in the United States, the CIA and other foreign agencies set up a joint, fortified headquarters to keep tabs on terrorism suspects in Bosnia, a Western intelligence source in Sarajevo said."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/30/AR2005113002098.html?nav=rss_world

The ironic thing about the news report above that was JUST released confirms what Bosnian-born columnist Nebojsa Malic has been saying all along. Western apologists for Bosnia continue to deny any terrorist links - at their own peril. As it is pointed out by Nebojsa Malic the confirmed existence of several Islamic terrorist organizations in Bosnia, as well as suspicious Saudi influenced and the Islamic propaganda of Bosnia’s former president, Ali Izetbegovic.
http://www.balkanalysis.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=309

DAMN, those Serbs are SO good at spreading propaganda against those Bosnian Muslims. They planted evidence for Italian and Croation police to find against five Bosnian Muslims regarding a bomb plot during the Pope's funeral; they had Abdelmajid Bouchar, a key suspect in the March 2004 bombings of Madrid, seek refugee in Bosnia or Kosovo after the fact; Oh and look they even had Bosnian citizens themselves arrested in terror plots:

"The Sarajevo arrests changed that perception. A Bosnian Interior Ministry official, Robert Cvrtak, released the names of four detainees from the raid: Cesur Abdulkadir, who is of Turkish heritage; Mirsad Bektasevic, a Swedish citizen of Bosnian origin; and Bajro Ikanovic and Almir Bajric, both Bosnian citizens. Among their activities, Bosnian police said, were hiding explosives inside lemons and tennis balls and trying to set up training camps in the hills near Sarajevo. Police officials here say Bektasevic, 19, also ran a Web site on behalf of Abu Musab Zarqawi, the Jordanian who heads the insurgent group al Qaeda in Iraq. He had pictures of the White House in his computer, they added."

YIKES! A Bosnian Zarqawi fan...barfff. Maybe someone should tell him Clintoon support his people during the war. ;p


48 posted on 12/01/2005 9:37:26 AM PST by apro
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To: apro
Check the list with the names of 911 hijackers. Two were alumni of Bosnian terror school. More importantly, Bosnian alumni recruited Mohammad Atta and his leutenant into AQ. Atta trained in Bosnia terror camps in 1999.
49 posted on 12/01/2005 7:47:39 PM PST by DTA
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To: DTA
A White American can be racist when he denigrates fellow White American

Is English your first language ?
50 posted on 12/01/2005 8:56:52 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: DTA
["Atta trained in Bosnia terror camps in 1999."]

Where specifically at in BiH DTA?

LIBO
51 posted on 12/01/2005 9:00:09 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: newfarm4000n
>>>>Is English your first language ?<<<<

The fact whether Engish is my first or second language has no bearing on the facts I cite. Do you want to comment on racist treatment of Caucasian Southerners in the movies and tv shows made and produced by Caucasians or not?

When you shout ("Please don't EVER compare them with America") after uttering a slur "Serbs never are and probably never will be Democractic and CAPITALISTIC." it is not much different.

Ignorance is not an exuse for rude behavior.

52 posted on 12/02/2005 6:36:25 AM PST by DTA
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To: LjubivojeRadosavljevic
Can you read Czech?

January 20 2005

"Svìdek obhajoby, bývalý èlen UNPROFOR, francouzský voják a lékaø Patrick Barriot pøedložil soudcùm v Haagu dokument Interpolu. Podle tohoto dokumentu byl v centrální Bosnì v letech 1994, 1995 a 1999 pøítomen Mohammed Atta, který byl jedním ze sebevražedných atentátníkù na WTC v záøí 2001. Miloševiè i Barriot, který slouží v protiteroristické bojové jednotce francouzské armády shodnì tvrdili, že tento dokument podává jasný dùkaz "pevnì zakoøenìného" islámského terorismu v Bosnì.

Member of antiterrorist unit of French Army, Patrick Barriot has submitted Interpol document to ICTY that Mohammed Atta was in Central Bosnia in 1999. I do not know where exactly, but those in the know pretend they do not know.

53 posted on 12/02/2005 6:54:07 AM PST by DTA
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To: DTA

["Can you read Czech?"]

No, but I know someone who does.

Thanks, DTA.


54 posted on 12/02/2005 3:44:37 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: DTA

There is no "racism" against "southerners" in America.


55 posted on 12/02/2005 6:43:45 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: mark502inf

why the silence on my question to you regarding the "No US Military casualties due to hostile fire", Mark? I know there were US killed over there, and so do you.


56 posted on 12/02/2005 6:57:46 PM PST by ma bell ("Take me to the Brig. I want to see the "real Marines". Major General Chesty Puller, USMC)
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To: ma bell
["why the silence on my question"...Mark?]

You're asking too much ma bell i.e., you want truthful answers to questions.

LIBO
57 posted on 12/02/2005 11:44:58 PM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: Hoplite
[This is is neither the time nor the place for Gotovina...]
pointing a finger at him [Gotovina] "does nothing to exculpate Serbia...]

Well, Hoplite, you might want to on occasion mention Gotovina. Otherwise, some people like me will interpret your comments (posts) to be perceived as biased against Serbs.

This is just a suggestion (You might not even care).
58 posted on 12/03/2005 1:15:23 AM PST by LjubivojeRadosavljevic
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To: MassachusettsGOP

I ask this question without knowing the answer (always a dangerous proposition) but has there EVER been a country in modern times that was Muslim and converted back to Orthodox Christianity without force? I cannot think of one.


59 posted on 12/05/2005 6:59:18 PM PST by MysticCrusader (Dead Dog Trick)
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To: MysticCrusader

I didn't think so until I read this http://www.beliefnet.com/boards/message_list.asp?pageID=1&discussionID=432895&messages_per_page=4


60 posted on 12/05/2005 9:18:23 PM PST by MassachusettsGOP (Massachusetts Republican....A rare breed indeed)
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