Posted on 11/30/2005 6:12:08 PM PST by Amerigomag
The appointment of Susan Kennedy as Chief of Staff to the Governor is a betrayal of the hard working activists that supported the Governor during the recent special election. Kennedy has a track record as an active partisan Democrat that has worked contrary to Republican candidates and beliefs.
Those of us who supported the recall of Gray Davis now find one of his top operatives, Susan Kennedy as the leader of Schwarzenegger staff. Not only did she work for Davis, but Kennedy is plagued by her involvement in the Oracle scandal.
This is a dangerous false start for the Governor, not a fresh start.
The California Republican Assembly Board of Directors will be voting on a resolution calling for the California Republican Party's withdrawal of their pre-primary endorsement of the Governor.
Despite the many posts by party operatives saying that people opposed special election propositions to spite Arnold, and, despite many posts requesting proof of such behavior, said party operatives have yet to provide any support for their contentions.
Several or many posters opposed SOME of the intiatives based on their CONTENT, not Arnold. The reasons were posted here, over and over, with support and logic. NONE of the reasons had anything to do with Arnold and EVERYTHING to do with the content of the propositions. Not all of this legislation was "conservative" as you suggest. For example, Prop 76 deferred more expenses and gave authorization to issue more bonds (more borrowing) and did not cut spending.
On the other hand, I see no reason why a freeper, who touts themselves as a "conservative", would attempt to minimize the damage of the GLBT legislation Arnold passed, unless said freeper favors such legislation and the incremental advancement of the homosexual agenda.
Interesting - since http://www.eqca.org/site/apps/nl/newsletter2.asp?c=9oINKWMCF&b=40337
"Equality California PAC is urging voters to reject Propositions 73-77 not only because each of the ballot measures would harm our allies, but also because each one would negatively impact the GLBT community."
-was urging the defeat of 76 also are you saying that conservatives were fighting on the side of the GLBT's ?
"On the other hand, I see no reason why a freeper, who touts themselves as a "conservative", would attempt to minimize the damage of the GLBT legislation Arnold passed,"
Perhaps because this legislation was in the past, and causing damage to Arnold - thereby helping to defeat the props that WERE acceptable to conservatives, is counter-productive ?
You can try to spin and twist this all you like. Read upthread. The discussion has nothing to do with the Propositions.
I was speaking specifically about GLBT legislation signed by Arnold (AB 2600, etc) in referring to support for the Homosexual agenda (as evidenced by certain freepers), NOT the Propositions.
The state GOP & party hangers-on hates & fears the right wing more than it does the Democrats, and has for years. Those who remember how loudly they whined when the conservative base pulled together the recall election don't really pay them much mind anymore.
Buncha nancies are good for a chuckle now & then - thats it.
When it really is "conservative legislation," yes, when it fails that test upon examination, no.
I'll make the distinction easy for you: Prop 76 didn't qualify as "conservative legislation," quite simply because it did little to nothing to constrain spending while authorizing more borrowing and overspending revenue in years with low tax receipts.
Excellent post. Much appreciated.
"I was speaking specifically about GLBT legislation signed by Arnold (AB 2600, etc) in referring to support for the Homosexual agenda (as evidenced by certain freepers), NOT the Propositions."
But I thought Arnold was supposedly a RINO... since he is painted as such, one would assume that EVERYTHING he supports is coming from the Homosexual agenda. You can't trust him, he is evil and must be attacked, and everything he supports must be evil and attacked....
Basic logic is absent in this statement.
You can't trust him, he is evil and must be attacked, and everything he supports must be evil and attacked....
No... he should not be attacked and I never called him evil. His policies and actions, however, should be scrutinized and criticized when appropriate. The signing of the GLBT legislation, and those on this forum who tried to minimize it, are what is being criticized.
"I'll make the distinction easy for you: Prop 76 didn't qualify as "conservative legislation,"
Well, it dosen't really matter too much since it looks like the lack of support caused the loss of ALL the props.
Let me ask you, even given how you feel about 76, would we be better off now if Arnold had not been attcked by conservatives and republicans and ALL of the props had passed ?
Was defeating 76 worth losing the others ?
"The signing of the GLBT legislation, and those on this forum who tried to minimize it, are what is being criticized."
The legislation was signed and there is nothing you could do about it except lobby for repealing it - a continuing attack on Arnold regarding it only served to further the loss of legislation that might have had a chance to pass.
You'll have to ask Arnold that. He was late getting on the Prop. 75 bandwagon and frankly didn't cut loose very much cash from that fat campaign bank account of his to pass it. 75 was the lynchpin. He endorsed 73, but barely ever mentioned it again and failed to put it on his list. Instead, he obsessed about 76, even threatening higher taxes if it didn't pass.
Not exactly a way to drum up Republican support there, and in fact, a very good way to motivate Democrats to vote against them.
I voted for 73-5. They were the issues closest to passing. They were the issues most strongly identified with conservatives. For you to assert that their failure was because of conservatives, fails the sniff test of the voting results.
Huh? I am speaking of legislation that Arnold signed into law on September 29, 2005. You're saying that vocal opposition to these acts caused failure of his unrelated Special Election propositions? Again, logic is absent.
Bills Signed by Arnold Schwarzenegger, September 29, 2005:
- SB 565 by Senator Carole Migden (D-San Francisco) - Property tax reappraisal exclusion: domestic partners.NOTE: Correction to prior posts--the correct # of the Civil Rights Act is AB 1400, not AB 2600 as I wrote.- SB 973 by Senator Sheila Kuehl (D-Santa Monica) - Public employees' retirement: domestic partners.
- AB 228 by Assemblymember Paul Koretz (D-West Hollywood) - Transplantation services: human immunodeficiency virus.
- AB 1142 by Assemblymember Marvyn Dymally (D-Compton) - HIV/AIDS: African-Americans: statewide initiative.
- AB 1400 by Assemblymember John Laird (D-Santa Cruz) - Civil Rights Act.
"For you to assert that their failure was because of conservatives, fails the sniff test of the voting results."
The voting results said that they all lost -
Could it be that you are saying that even with full conservative support conservative issues lose ? ... That without Arnold the RINO going out for crossover votes and being accused of sucking up to the liberals because of it, you can't win an issue ?
When the homeless guy on the streetcorner curses at you, do you open your wallet for him ?
"Huh? I am speaking of legislation that Arnold signed into law on September 29, 2005. You're saying that vocal opposition to these acts caused failure of his unrelated Special Election propositions? Again, logic is absent. "
LOL - you are still attacking Arnold NOW on those issues - do you expect me to believe you were not attacking him on Nov 7th ?
Pardon me? Criticizing the act is not "attacking Arnold." Are you suggesting that any Politician(R) should be above scrutiny and not criticized for any action? Arnold was elected Governor--not King.
New and Improved Gray Davis - Now Acceptable to Arnoldbots! 
Mr. Gray Davis (R)
Davis bio:
Joseph Graham Davis Jr. (born December 26, 1942), best known as Gray Davis, is a American politician who served as the 37th Governor of California from 1999 to 2003. He was re-elected to a second term in 2002, but on October 7, 2003, he became the second governor to be recalled in American history. He is currently a member of the Democrat Republican Party.
Born in New York, New York, Davis moved to California with his family as a child in 1954. He graduated from a North Hollywood military academy, the Harvard School for Boys (now part of Harvard-Westlake School). He earned a BA in history at Stanford University, where he was admitted to the Zeta Psi fraternity, graduating in 1964. He then returned to New York to attend Columbia Law School. After completing the program in 1967 he entered active duty in the United States Army, serving in the Vietnam War until 1969.
Davis returned to California and entered politics, serving as Executive Secretary and Chief of Staff to Governor Edmund G. "Jerry" Brown Jr. from 1974 to 1981. He met his future wife, the former Sharon Ryer, while on an airplane tending to official business in 1978. Ryer, a flight attendant for Pacific Southwest Airlines, was miffed when Davis held up the departure of the flight from Sacramento to Los Angeles. Davis apologized and asked her out, and they later married in 1983, with California Supreme Court justice Rose Bird officiating. He was elected to the office of Assemblyman from the 43rd district (Los Angeles County) from 1983 to 1987, then as State Controller until 1995. He was Lieutenant Governor until 1999, after winning the 1998 election for Governor with 57.97% of the vote, defeating Republican Dan Lungren who had 38.4%. Davis was re-elected in November 2002 following a long and bitter campaign against Republican candidate Bill Simon, marked by accusations of ethical lapses on both sides and widespread voter apathy. He gained re-election with 47.4% of the vote to Simon's 42.4%
After leaving public office, Davis appeared on several shows, such as The Tonight Show and The Late Show with David Letterman, as well as a cameo as himself on CBS sitcom Yes, Dear. In December 2004 he announced that he was joining the law firm of Loeb & Loeb. Davis has also been in the media since being recalled. Aside from the aforementioned television cameos, he has done many news media interviews about his legacy. After discovering the Arnoldbots don't care how liberal or incompentant someone is as long as they have an "R" next to their name, he switched to the Republican Party in 2006, and is now mounting a comeback bid for Governor
ELECT DAVIS SLOGANS FOR ARNOLDBOTS:
"Vote for Davis or you'll get Angelides!"
"He's a FISCAL conservative and social moderate"
"Elect Davis or the DEMOCRATS will win!"
"Davis will BRING THE BUISNESSES BACK and CUT, CUT, CUT!"
"I don't CARE if his wife is still a scrwely liberal Democrat"
"Davis is fan of "Free to Choice" (he supports unlimited abortion, after all)
"If a Democrat were Governor right now, we'd have socialized health care and tax hikes already. Thank GOODNESS that NEVER happened under Davis!"
"You may not like him, but you can't deny he's ELECTABLE!"
"He'll DELIVER California to George Allen in '08!"
"A Vote for McClintock is a Vote for Westly!"
"Democrats HATE Davis! If the Dems don't like him, he must be doing SOMETHING right!"
"ANYONE but Hillary!"
"Conservatives CAN'T win!!!"
The following are GOP candidates for Governor. All are unelectable right-wing scumbags except for Davis. A vote for ANY of them is a vote to elect Angelides. The ONLY acceptable choice for GOP primary is noted in BOLD:
Vote for one:
Tom McClintock (R)
Tony Strickland (R)
Dan Lungren (R)
Gray Davis (R) - Pre-endorsed by California GOP
Chris Cox (R)
Darrell Issa (R)
Howard Kaloogian (R)
Bill Simon(R)
The following are general election candidates for Governor. A vote for ANY of them is a vote to elect Angelides. The ONLY acceptable choice for Governor is noted in BOLD:
Vote for one:
Phil Angelides (D)
Gray Davis (R)
Peter Camejo (GR)
Art Olivier (LP)
Jim Gilchrist (AIP)
Janice Jordan (PFP)
George Fellows (IND)
Paid for by the California Republican Party
"Are you suggesting that any Politician(R) should be above scrutiny and not criticized for any action?"
Yep, go ahead and join the I hate Arnold group, and then complain as his popularity goes down and the things he could accomplish for you don't happen.
The RNC would have Jim and John on the phone before 10 p.m.
The post would be on Limbaugh's site under his "stack of stuff" before tomorrow's show.
In your opinion, with no evidence, against a great deal of inferential data to the contrary and in accordance with the mantra of the Republican loyalist still roaming in the wild. Republican Party loyalists clinging to this twisted, partisan, logic have a great deal to do with the failure of the GOP in California.
Today, in their present form, the CAGOP, like a person with dual citizenship or a hyphenated last name, is wondering in the wilderness looking for their lost identity.
It would come as no surprise if the hilarious spoof posted earlier this evening by BillBoy on another thread comes true: Seeing the success of the Austrian, Gray Davis switches party registration and challanges the Austrian in the Republican primary with support from the CAGOP.
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