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Kennedy Appointment is Outrageous
California Republican Assembly ^ | 11-30-2005 | Mike Spence, President of the California Republican Assembly

Posted on 11/30/2005 6:12:08 PM PST by Amerigomag

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To: Carry_Okie

Do you need to tell people what they're thinking so you can have someone to talk to?


241 posted on 12/06/2005 9:23:39 AM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: SierraWasp
Geez. What's that old Carson routine, they guy with the cards to his head that can read people's minds?

You'd think I dropped a bomb on this thread instead of dumping an elephant in the room!

242 posted on 12/06/2005 9:27:16 AM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: Carry_Okie

"Looks to me like CONSERVATIVES did show up and your precious "moderates" who don't particularly care about such things were the ones who didn't show."

... and we go full circle again - Arnold is attacked by conservatives for being a RINO and too liberal, but at the same time he is blamed for his supposed failure to deliver those needed crossover votes.

... as a side note your " Looks to me like " is not a FACT, but lets just say it is -
It's a pretty good admission that without SOMEONE reaching out to the moderates, conservatives simply don't have enough juice to push their issues through.


243 posted on 12/06/2005 9:44:22 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: Carry_Okie; GVnana

LOL -

" He had no intention of governing as a conservative...."

NEWS FLASH !!!!

Carry_Okie reports breaking news ... Arnold is not a conservative !

Whoda' thunk it !


244 posted on 12/06/2005 9:48:37 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS
Arnold is attacked by conservatives for being a RINO and too liberal, but at the same time he is blamed for his supposed failure to deliver those needed crossover votes.

That IS why you "moderates" demand conservatives back him. If he can't deliver, he has no justification for conservative support.

Looks to me like " is not a FACT, but lets just say it is -

The votes are there for all to see. That's a FACT.

It's a pretty good admission that without SOMEONE reaching out to the moderates, conservatives simply don't have enough juice to push their issues through.

Which is why 187, 22, 209, and 227 all passed, right? The point is: Conservative issues can and DO win; hence conservative candidates should also, that is, if you "moderates" stop stabbing them in the back like they did to Bill Simon.

Moderates do win elections with conservative support, as did Pete Wilson. OTOH, if "moderates" stab conservatives in the back, they LOSE elections. That's the lession you refuse to learn.

245 posted on 12/06/2005 10:14:42 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: RS
Carry_Okie reports breaking news ... Arnold is not a conservative !

The fools who supported him thought he would cut spending. That includes you.

246 posted on 12/06/2005 10:15:29 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: GVnana
Do you need to tell people what they're thinking so you can have someone to talk to?

Only when they are demnonstrably incapable of it.

247 posted on 12/06/2005 10:16:39 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie

We who live in California and espouse the Republican viewpoint are really stuck, and that's the truth. It's such a diasppointment that the Governor is doing what he is doing and thereby is destroying his base support. I had great hope that he would be able to make a really significant turnaround in this state, but not now.

The districts were gerrymandered years ago in an effort to benefit whatever Democratic majority there might be, and I don't see that it will change in the forseeable future, or at least not in OUR lifetime.

We have illegal aliens coming over day after day expecting and getting all the FREE stuff we give them by way of our taxes here in California, and the wealthy Democrats like Barbara Boxer, Nancy Pelosi, Dianne Feinstein, ad infinitum, just really don't give a DAMN and they are USELESS pieces of skin, all of them.


248 posted on 12/06/2005 10:32:52 AM PST by Max7
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To: Carry_Okie

Incapable of "it"? And what, exactly, does your pronoun refer to?


249 posted on 12/06/2005 11:41:13 AM PST by GVnana (Former Alias: GVgirl)
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To: Carry_Okie

"If he can't deliver, he has no justification for conservative support. "

LOL ... and this from a McClintock supporter...


"Which is why 187, 22, 209, and 227 all passed, right? The point is: Conservative issues can and DO win;"

Just which ones of these were conservative issues and not moderate issues again ?

... or do they become strictly conservative issues only AFTER they win ?


"OTOH, if "moderates" stab conservatives in the back, they LOSE elections."

... and those conservatives are rewarded for this by the election of liberals, sinking us further into the pit.


250 posted on 12/06/2005 11:56:58 AM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: Carry_Okie

"The fools who supported him thought he would cut spending. That includes you."

... ANYONE who thought that Arnold would be able to single-handedly cut spending was a fool.
Anyone who realized that and did not vote for him because of it was a bigger fool.


251 posted on 12/06/2005 12:00:28 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: GVnana
Incapable of "it"? And what, exactly, does your pronoun refer to?

Incapable of thinking, as your reaction amply proves, again.

BTW, people have been banned on FR for maintaining multiple screen names. I suggest you drop one of them.

252 posted on 12/06/2005 12:25:31 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: RS
ANYONE who thought that Arnold would be able to single-handedly cut spending was a fool.

No one said anything about "singlehandedly." What Arnold has done, submitting budgets with an accelerated growth rate and failing to wield the line item veto, is entirely under his control.

Try learning to debate without a strawman as a shield.

253 posted on 12/06/2005 12:28:05 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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To: Carry_Okie


"No one said anything about "singlehandedly." What Arnold has done, submitting budgets with an accelerated growth rate and failing to wield the line item veto, is entirely under his control."

"The Governor made changes, reductions and deletions to 40 different line items in the main budget bill, referred to as "line item vetoes" or using his "blue pencil" - a power granted by the State Constitution."
http://www.namiscc.org/Advocacy/2004/CA-Bills/Summer/GovSignsBudget.htm

Perhaps you mean failing to wield it in the fashion that YOU would like ?

... and "entirely under his control" means "singlehandedly"





"Try learning to debate without a strawman as a shield."

LOL - If you don't like my posts try using Crtl-Alt-Delete


254 posted on 12/06/2005 12:54:58 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS
Things that YOU wanted to see happen did not, because you couldn't stand the thought that the RINO Arnold might have handed them to you.

Just keep making things up, RS. You ignore facts and your "arguments" are absent all logic. I supported Props 73 through 75. I would have been very pleased if Arnold "handed" these to the state of California.

By the way, moderate Republican analyst Dan Schnur has just gone on the record saying that this was "a special-election reform effort supported almost solely by conservative voters. "

Keep on spinning! When will the party give you new talking points? Yours are quite stale and have been proven wrong on thread after thread.

255 posted on 12/06/2005 1:58:05 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: GVnana
Did you happen to catch Limbaugh's remarks about Schwarzenegger and California Conservatives yesterday? "Why would Schwarzenegger need California Conservatives?"

Is Arnold better off without the GOP?

256 posted on 12/06/2005 1:59:59 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: RS; Carry_Okie
Perhaps you mean failing to wield it in the fashion that YOU would like ?

True. $435,322 worth of vetoes out of more than $200,000,000,000 is hardly the "cut, cut, cut" that voters had in mind.

The governor has used the line-item veto 133 times in the past two years, cutting $435,322 in spending. (Source)

257 posted on 12/06/2005 2:18:35 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

"By the way, moderate Republican analyst Dan Schnur has just gone on the record saying that this was "a special-election reform effort supported almost solely by conservative voters. "

Well shut my mouth and call me cornpone ... looks like conservative voters were almost ... ALMOST .... 50%

Too bad they didn't support Arnold more and convince him to drag a few more percentages with him.

But a solid second place ... Great for the Conservative revolution !

</sarcasm>


258 posted on 12/06/2005 2:29:52 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS

The mushy-moderate middle that helps elect action heros didn't show up.
Blame them (and the most inept campaign in recent history).


259 posted on 12/06/2005 2:32:26 PM PST by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl

"Blame them (and the most inept campaign in recent history)."

But, but I thought it was "supported almost solely by conservative voters" ... are you saying their campaign was inept ?

( well obviously, since they lost ... )

BTW, since one of your cohorts here says conservatives are only about 15% -- where did the other almost 35% come from ?


260 posted on 12/06/2005 2:39:40 PM PST by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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