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More on the CIA war against Bush
The American Thinker ^ | December 1, 2005 | None cited

Posted on 12/01/2005 5:33:44 AM PST by Quilla

 

The American Thinker has connected a number of dots in the ongoing CIA effort to subvert an elected American president.  John Hinderaker now suggests that high officials in the CIA itself  deliberately exposed the Agency’s covert flights to transport terrorists to interrogation centers around the world

The New York Times and Washington Post cited CIA sources when they told the world the details – air carriers, flight dates, airports and countries involved. That is all information Osama bin Ladin would love to know. This unbelievably irresponsible publicity could destabilize governments or kill people. But if the Agency had any objection to the blowing of one of its most sensitive operations since the Cold War, apparently it didn’t tell NYT or WaPo.

“The twin leaks to the Times and the Post have severely impaired the agency’s ability to carry out renditions, transport prisoners, and maintain secret detention facilities. It is striking that top-level CIA officials are evidently willing to do serious damage to their own agency’s capabilities and operations for the sake of harming the Bush administration and impeding administration policies with which they disagree.”

“The CIA is an agency in crisis. Perhaps, though, there is a ray of hope:the agency has referred the secret-prison leak to the Post to the Justice Department for investigation and possible criminal prosecution.”

Conclusion: Some well-placed CIA officers are serving the media, not the Government of the United States – or the people. They are endangering their own agents at the frontlines, and undoubtedly other sources as well.

It now seems as if the war against Bush has become a war within CIA. Killing the terrorist transport program would certainly undermine Administration policy, the major goal of the new Iron Triangle of power in the country—- the CIA, the media and the Left. Some sources might be currying favor with the NYT-WaPo axis, perhaps to get their help in covering up their own misconduct in the Plame-Wilson affair. After all, reporters will now be compelled to testify in the Libby trial—and who knows what they might reveal?

The US Congress has oversight powers over the secret bureaucracy. Nothing is more important than for it to carry out an aggressive investigation of sabotage by newsleak.



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushhaters; cia; cialeak; plamegate; presidentbush; prisons; torture
It appears as though the CIA is attacking the Administration with a thousand cuts.
1 posted on 12/01/2005 5:33:45 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Quilla

This is nothing short of a coup... Plame/Rove was also part of it.


2 posted on 12/01/2005 5:38:16 AM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
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To: Quilla

the agency has referred the secret-prison leak to the Post to the Justice Department for investigation and possible criminal prosecution.”


This is the Plame game scenario. Look for the investigation to target a Bush administration official as the leaker.


3 posted on 12/01/2005 5:40:21 AM PST by saganite (The poster formerly known as Arkie 2)
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To: Quilla

Didn't all this start 45 years ago on a grassy knoll??


4 posted on 12/01/2005 5:40:30 AM PST by xcamel (a system poltergeist stole it.)
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To: johnny7

I'd certainly appreciate Porter Goss shutting down this subversive operation.


5 posted on 12/01/2005 5:41:41 AM PST by Quilla
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To: Quilla

Porter Goss and the Justice Department had better get to the bottom of this. There is true EVIL afoot and my guess is that liberals, the media, and Democrats (all the same) have their fingerprints all over this.


6 posted on 12/01/2005 5:43:03 AM PST by Obadiah ( Deuteronomy 6:5)
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To: Quilla
"The US Congress has oversight powers over the secret bureaucracy. Nothing is more important than for it to carry out an aggressive investigation of sabotage by newsleak."


Who will investigate Congress????
7 posted on 12/01/2005 5:48:48 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Quilla

Let's get this straight. Valerie Plame, the flamboyant, in-your-face CIA analyst, is "outed" and the Left screams bloody murder over a complete non-story which has not done and will not do anyone any harm.

However, when a critical, treasonous leak puts real people - indeed, the entire country - at risk, the Left is silent.

Pray to God - PRAY TO GOD - that good Americans who see this farce playing out are still in the majority. If not, we could be the last generation of what we think of as "Americans."

Let NO other issue cloud your thinking. Conservative judges and a Republican Congress are the only things separating us from becoming a socialist, second-rate nation. Hand this country back to the Dems and the MSM, and they'll have succeeded in dragging further down the path to one-worldism, or worse, sharia.

Again, IMHO only one issue matters: security. In this dangerous era, social issues must take a back seast.


8 posted on 12/01/2005 5:48:59 AM PST by StatenIsland
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To: Quilla
"I'd certainly appreciate Porter Goss shutting down this subversive operation."

So would the president, I'm sure. Not easy to move such an entrenched group; overcoming the inertia may take years.

A few years back, I was hearing from someone who had a relative in the CIA, and that person's views were exactly what you would expect if you believe that the CIA is deliberately undermining US policy in this area.

9 posted on 12/01/2005 5:52:46 AM PST by Texas dog
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To: Quilla
Not the whole agency, but one or two (my guess) Clinton Era people. That would be enough to make the whole agency look bad.

As for Congress, can you imagine them keeping a secret?

10 posted on 12/01/2005 5:55:02 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Obadiah
"There is true EVIL afoot and my guess is that liberals, the media, and Democrats (all the same) have their fingerprints all over this."

That's the same thing I've been thinking. I started looking that way shortly after Katrina. Why else I wondered, did the media build up such a frenzy over it and then we find out it was all lies? All their story's were lies!

They got everything wrong? No, you don't make that many mistakes by accident. And that's why I thought the Governors unwillingness to let the President send in the military and the media putting out false stories while she kept the help at bay, were all connected to the dems and maybe the CIA. And I thought they were going for a coup

I still do.

11 posted on 12/01/2005 5:57:15 AM PST by GloriaJane (http://music.download.com/gloriajane "Merry Christmas To Our Troops In Iraq (My Hero's)")
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To: Obadiah

I sincerely hope that the Bush administration is letting this open sore fester in preparation for a blockbuster set of hearings (Able Danger, Libby trial, Tom Delay trail, CIA leaks) just prior to the 2006 midterm election. I know I'm trying to find a silver lining in a dark cloud, but, as has been shown previously, the Bush administration is loathe to tip their hand prematurely.


12 posted on 12/01/2005 5:57:25 AM PST by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: Quilla
Ever since the 1973 Church Committee, the CIA has been padded with bureaucratic pantywaists. It has become obvious that they, who prefer to do their work at embassy cocktail parties... or possibly on the Internet... also happen to be radical, liberal Democrats.
13 posted on 12/01/2005 5:57:41 AM PST by johnny7 (“You have a corpse in a car, minus a head, in the garage. Take me to it.”)
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To: sauropod

mark


14 posted on 12/01/2005 5:58:05 AM PST by sauropod ("The love that dare not speak its' name has now become the love that won't shut the hell up.")
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To: Quilla

Lets not forget the State Department!
Former home of Larry Johnson and Walter Pincus's wife Ann.
Also the former home of Mr. Wilkerson, who claimed that the White House highjacked U.S. foreign policy.
In addition,Joe and Val, in their own words, claim that during March of 03 Val was in the process of moving from non-official to official cover at the Dept. of State (Vanity Fair-January 2004).
Kerry campaign=CIA=State


15 posted on 12/01/2005 5:58:06 AM PST by Bob from De
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To: Quilla

The CIA has apparently become a malignant cancer, devouring it's own cells.


16 posted on 12/01/2005 6:03:08 AM PST by F.J. Mitchell (Okay, bring our troops home. But don't feign suprise when the terrorists tag along.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

I think there are more than two problem employees from the CIA. Consider also, that the Clintons fired and replaced just about anyone they could in any branch of the government while they were in office. I think the justice department is particularly a problem since that is where they go when found out (Sandy Berger, e.g.) so that they can skate. (Yes, I know Berger was convicted, but that was a slap on the wrist.) Even the White House travel office was replaced by Clinton cronies. At the time, I thought it was just cronyism, but now I wonder if even the travel office was covering up for Clinton crimes.


17 posted on 12/01/2005 6:13:46 AM PST by IndyInVa (There either needs to be less corruption, or more opportunity for me to participate in it.)
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To: IndyInVa

IIRC, one of the first things clinton did was fire all 93 U.S Attorney Generals.


18 posted on 12/01/2005 6:16:09 AM PST by mikeybaby (long time lurker)
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To: Quilla

Frank Gaffney was on Fox & Friends this morning making this very point.


19 posted on 12/01/2005 6:29:13 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Quilla

btt


20 posted on 12/01/2005 6:38:31 AM PST by DBrow
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To: All

The CIA Fix is nothing new... check it out:
http://cryptome.org/cia-wmd-fix/cia-wmd-fix.htm


21 posted on 12/01/2005 6:49:55 AM PST by AliVeritas (''I'd rather have Jihadis in front of me than Democrats behind me.'' Go GOP!)
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To: IndyInVa
At the time, I thought it was just cronyism, but now I wonder if even the travel office was covering up for Clinton crimes.

I do not doubt that travel other than that of the potus and 'co-potus' could have been arranged to coincide with the itineraries of anyone else from that venue, which would have at least facillitated any number of nefarious deeds.

Having honest career people in there just would not do for the Clintons. They would have blown the whistle sooner or later.

Nope, they had to have people from their inner circle in those positions, or at least people who owed/feared them.

22 posted on 12/01/2005 7:31:49 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: Quilla

Reagan should have dismantled the CIA in 1981 given how they botched Iran by puffing up the popularity of the Shah and totally discounting Shiite unrest. Not mention putting the DDR's economy on par with West Germany's.


23 posted on 12/01/2005 7:35:45 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Quilla

Just because the NYT and the Washington Post claim that their information came from "CIA sources" doesn't mean that it wasn't leaked by a Democrat Senator or Representative, someone in the State Department, or even a former government employee. Remember how Judith Miller attempted to "shield" Scooter Libby by calling her source a "former Capitol Hill staffer"? The Left-Wing MSM is not past throwing up a little "monkey dust" to protect their source, nor would it in any way bother them if the rest of the Executive Branch "went to war" against the CIA. That might even cause a few more operatives, analysts and employees to come in out of the cold with anti-Bush stories.


24 posted on 12/01/2005 7:42:38 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: StatenIsland

I agree with every thing you said.! We have to stay aware and proactive. MSM and leftist want us to be their third rate country. They are a disgrace and we must never give in to their pettiness and style of corruption.


25 posted on 12/01/2005 7:51:02 AM PST by JFC (W, I am with YA)
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To: Bob from De
"the former home of Mr. Wilkerson, who claimed that the White House highjacked U.S. foreign policy"

Wilkerson's comments were truly frightening, for they did indeed suggest that foreign policy should be run by the bureaucracy, not by our elected officials. When Wilkerson describes Cheney - the vice-president! - as part of a "cabal," he sends a clear message that elected officials who defy the bureaucracy are acting in an illegitimate manner, and should be opposed. This sounds very much like treason, coming from a former top aide to Colin Powell.
26 posted on 12/01/2005 8:07:57 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Quilla

The CIA made a referral to the Justice Department to investigate the leak of a covert agent, but, I have not heard of a referral to investigate the leak of information on overseas detention centers. This would imply that there was no secret to protect. The EU Justice minister has, as yet, found no member country harboring such centers. Yet, this story is treated as fact. This story has more of a Soviet disinformation sound to it, leak something to the media and it will be treated as truth.


27 posted on 12/01/2005 8:16:08 AM PST by depressed in 06
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To: Obadiah

I strongly believe President Bush is gathering hard evidence against those trying to destroy our Republic.


28 posted on 12/01/2005 8:44:28 AM PST by BARLF
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To: Quilla

29 posted on 12/01/2005 8:49:12 AM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan (/strike>)
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To: All

Does anyone think it is at all possible that Saddam Hussein actually infiltrated our CIA? Just because he is in jail and on trial now does not mean his spies and minions woujld necessarily have stopped their efforts to undermine the U.S. in Iraq. We know the USSR placed double agents in very high positions in our foreign policy and intelligence operations. And we know that for years, Iraq was virtually a client state to the USSR and had the most sophisticated intelligence agency of any country in the area other than Israel. Isn't it plausible that the Iraqis learned a thing or two from the KGB? Could we really have a true Fifth Column of Baathist spies throughout our State Department and CIA? Could Joe Wilson be one of them?


30 posted on 12/01/2005 8:55:45 AM PST by Dems_R_Losers (The Kerry/Lehane/Wilson/Grunwald/Cooper plot to destroy Karl Rove has failed!)
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To: Steve_Seattle
This sounds very much like treason, coming from a former top aide to Colin Powell.

And, until some is tried, convicted, and sentenced (preferably to the gallows), this stuff, sadly, will still happen.

For an administration (and a DOJ) that seems so serious about these things, they still have no b@lls to actually do something about it.

31 posted on 12/01/2005 9:12:03 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the RATs and RINOs, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" - Arnie)
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To: BARLF
I agree with you. I'm betting Goss made "whoever" talked to Woodward come clean. And now Viveca, too?? And Valleley (sp)?

Personally, I think we're going to find that Cooper (and wifey) are guilty as hell in all this. Hillary will be played as the "unsuspecting puppet"....the same role she played in Rathergate and Bubba's little affairs.

After all, Hillary and Mandy were in Germany on July 6 2003 when Joe's column came out.

32 posted on 12/01/2005 11:53:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Bump!


33 posted on 12/01/2005 12:08:18 PM PST by BARLF
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To: Quilla
The CIA is an agency in crisis.

I'll say it again - close down the CIA and assign those who should still have a job over to DoD. When an Agency commits sedition, someone needs to be pubished and they should start right at the top.

36 posted on 12/01/2005 3:30:07 PM PST by p23185 (Why isn't attempting to take down a sitting Pres & his Admin considered Sedition?)
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Does anyone think it is at all possible that Saddam Hussein actually infiltrated our CIA?

It seems to me that what's going on is far beyond partisan politics. If however, this is the state of the politics in this country we are in deep, deep trouble.

37 posted on 12/01/2005 4:34:05 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: Quilla

Ping


38 posted on 12/02/2005 11:58:30 AM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: xcamel

[...Didn't all this start 45 years ago on a grassy knoll??...]

The CIA is like the third rail.


39 posted on 12/02/2005 12:01:07 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: StatenIsland

[...Conservative judges and a Republican Congress are the only things separating us from becoming a socialist, second-rate nation...]

That - and our GUNS!


40 posted on 12/02/2005 12:03:47 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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To: Dems_R_Losers

[...Does anyone think it is at all possible that Saddam Hussein actually infiltrated our CIA?...]

No! The CIA has all the ear marks of organized crime. Hussein simply kissed Clinton's ring.


41 posted on 12/02/2005 12:10:41 PM PST by Jo Nuvark (Those who bless Israel will be blessed, those who curse Israel will be cursed. Gen 12:3)
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