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Petersburg shipyard tests new generation submarine (Russia)
RIA Novosti ^ | 18:42 | 29/ 11/ 2005 | Anna Novak

Posted on 12/01/2005 10:48:30 AM PST by mym


ST. PETERSBURG, November 29 (RIA Novosti - North-West, Anna Novak) - The St. Petersburg-based Admiralty Shipyard has begun sea trials of a fourth-generation Project 677 Lada class diesel-electric submarine, the company's press office said Tuesday.

During the next few months, the submarine, called St. Petersburg, will undergo maneuverability and submersion tests and operation in extreme conditions. The latest technological advances were used to create the submarine's main energy unit and other systems.

After comprehensive testing, the submarine will be transferred to the Russian Navy, the company said.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar2; coldwarbyproxy; navy; russia; submarine

1 posted on 12/01/2005 10:48:31 AM PST by mym
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To: mym

This will probably be the follow-up to the Kilo for the export market.


2 posted on 12/01/2005 10:49:54 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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To: Pyro7480

I wondered why they were bothering with a diesel.

I was thinking home port protection, but you are probably correct.


3 posted on 12/01/2005 10:53:02 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: mym

Wait till they get the diesel-powered torpedoes out of the lab.


4 posted on 12/01/2005 10:55:37 AM PST by Steely Tom (Fortunately, the Bill of Rights doesn't include the word 'is'.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

I think the Russian still use Kilos, so it wouldn't surprise me that they would use this new model too. Diesel-electrics are good for "choke point" situations, like the entrance to the Black Sea, for example.


5 posted on 12/01/2005 10:56:53 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Sancte Joseph, terror daemonum, ora pro nobis!)
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6 posted on 12/01/2005 10:59:11 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: bmwcyle

The US ought to buy a few for the Taiwanese. Looks about like what they need. AIP, small crew, a little smaller than a Kilo, same size range as a Collins class.


7 posted on 12/01/2005 11:17:23 AM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

There is also a missle version planned for later.

8 posted on 12/01/2005 11:19:53 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: MeanWestTexan
Diesel-electric subs have the advantage of running extremely quietly because you don't need the noisy pump systems for cooling a nuclear reactor; however, there is the major disadvantage of limited running time under water. Mind you, the Seawolf and Virginia class nuclear subs have highly-insulated reactor sections, which also drastically reduces the noise signature of the submarine.
9 posted on 12/01/2005 11:52:30 AM PST by RayChuang88
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To: RayChuang88

As above, sound like perfect port-protectors to me.


10 posted on 12/01/2005 12:10:13 PM PST by MeanWestTexan (Many at FR would respond to Christ "Darn right, I'll cast the first stone!")
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To: bmwcyle
There is also a missle version planned for later.

Are you sure about that. It's really small for a missile boat. It is certainly too small for ballistic missiles. American missile boats are over 500 feet long, about 40 feet high and displace over 18,000 tons. Russian boats are in the same size range (some slightly larger, some slightly smaller) On the other hand, the figures I've seen for this boat are less than half the length, about 24 feet high, and displacing about 2700 tons.

11 posted on 12/01/2005 4:36:02 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

Line 3 "Missile Weapons". It goes in the vertical tube in the 1/3 aft area.

12 posted on 12/01/2005 6:27:17 PM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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To: bmwcyle
Your chart is for the Amur 'family', which Global Security shows as project 1650 on the table here - http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/ship.htm

It is my understanding, perhaps incorrectly, that the St. Petersburg is a project 677, or Lada class boat on the Global Security chart linked immediately above. (See information to that effect here: http://www.hazegray.org/worldnav/russia/submar.htm )

I note that the particulars given by HazeGray don't match exactly with any of the boats on the Global Security list for the Amur boats. Of course, one or both of the sources could be wrong, or it really could be two different designs.
13 posted on 12/01/2005 7:10:23 PM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35

With modular design it is not hard to modify and enlarge a boat these days.


14 posted on 12/02/2005 3:25:30 AM PST by bmwcyle (Evolution is a myth -- Libertarians just won't evolve into Conservatives.)
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