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Strange New Carnivore Species Sighted On Borneo
Reuters ^ | 12/5/2005 | Reuters

Posted on 12/05/2005 5:15:46 PM PST by FReepaholic

GENEVA (Reuters) - Environmental researchers are preparing to capture what they call a new, mysterious species of carnivore on Borneo, the first such discovery on the wildlife-rich Indonesian island in over a century.

Swiss-based environmental group WWF said on Monday its researchers photographed the strange animal, which looks like a cross between a cat and a fox, in the dense, central mountainous rainforests of Borneo.

(Excerpt) Read more at today.reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: borneo; carnivore; catastrophism; chupacabra; cryptobiology; cryptozoology; ecoping; godsgravesglyphs; species
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...looks like a cross between a cat and a fox...

Lessee, that would be a cox....or a fat.

1 posted on 12/05/2005 5:15:48 PM PST by FReepaholic
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To: tscislaw

phew for a second there I worried they had found crab people


2 posted on 12/05/2005 5:17:10 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: tscislaw

Just a giant Sumatran rat swept there by the sunami


3 posted on 12/05/2005 5:17:28 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: tscislaw
I find neither cats nor foxes "strange", and would find an imagined cross between them (a furry creature with four legs, a tail, sharp teeth and claws, to be not particularly "strange."

I guess they need to sell papers, to hype up what is still an interesting discovery.
4 posted on 12/05/2005 5:17:52 PM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Your FRiendly FReeper Patent Attorney)
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To: tscislaw
Lessee, that would be a cox....or a fat.

Correct. The males of the species would be "cox" and the females would be "fat".

5 posted on 12/05/2005 5:21:20 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: tscislaw

It's catdog.


6 posted on 12/05/2005 5:21:37 PM PST by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: tscislaw

Chupacabra


7 posted on 12/05/2005 5:22:55 PM PST by boomop1
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To: tscislaw

Chupacabra lives!


8 posted on 12/05/2005 5:24:41 PM PST by de Buillion (Close the bases, and bring the troops home from CA!)
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To: tscislaw

You know in this day and age, there really is no excuse for not having a picture of the beast.


9 posted on 12/05/2005 5:26:05 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: tscislaw
It's the dreaded Russian squirrel.
10 posted on 12/05/2005 5:27:03 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: tscislaw
"Swiss-based environmental group WWF said on Monday its researchers photographed the strange animal, which looks like a cross between a cat and a fox, in the dense, central mountainous rainforests of Borneo....
Pictures of the animal were first taken by WWF researchers in 2003, the photos kept unpublished by the WWF as research continued. The WWF decided to make public the photos with the release of a book about Borneo, to be published on Tuesday."


So they've had pics and been researching for 3 years, but aren't showing the pics until they release their new book?? Yeah it's all about science and nature, not money. Sure.
11 posted on 12/05/2005 5:27:07 PM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: tscislaw

fossa?


12 posted on 12/05/2005 5:28:02 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: bnelson44

Read the article or my #11.


13 posted on 12/05/2005 5:28:34 PM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: phoenix0468

14 posted on 12/05/2005 5:28:40 PM PST by Brett66 (Where government advances and it advances relentlessly freedom is imperiled -Janice Rogers Brown)
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To: TC Rider

Fossa - native to Madagascar

15 posted on 12/05/2005 5:29:25 PM PST by TC Rider (The United States Constitution 1791. All Rights Reserved.)
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To: bnelson44
I found the pics here: http://www.wirepix.com/newsphotos/index.php

and here:


16 posted on 12/05/2005 5:31:37 PM PST by CellPhoneSurfer
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To: tscislaw
Fisher Cat

17 posted on 12/05/2005 5:31:53 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: visualops

See my post 16 for the pics.


18 posted on 12/05/2005 5:32:42 PM PST by CellPhoneSurfer
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To: nkycincinnatikid

"Everything You Know Is Wrong"


19 posted on 12/05/2005 5:33:15 PM PST by hang 'em (Is Devil Worship "one of the World's Great Religions"?)
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To: johniegrad
...Correct. The males of the species would be "cox" and the females would be "fat". ...

LOL!

20 posted on 12/05/2005 5:33:36 PM PST by FReepaholic (Admitted FReepaholic since 1998.)
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To: TC Rider

cat and a fox - sounds like the makings for a Batman movie - foxy Catwoman does the dirty deed with the winged rodent and thus is born Batty Babycatfox - flys around all night eating bugs and trying to score some catknip but looks like a million bucks.

It's probably just a rat they want to put on the ESA list of give us some grant money to protect it.


21 posted on 12/05/2005 5:38:09 PM PST by kentj
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To: tscislaw
Image hosted by Photobucket.com

Already discovered in the front row of White House press briefings years ago.

22 posted on 12/05/2005 5:41:03 PM PST by satchmodog9 ( Seventy million spent on the lefts Christmas present and all they got was a Scooter)
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To: SteveMcKing

I use to trap those fisher critters...most interesting animal
Martens can catch a running squirrel as it races through the tree tops...a Fisher can catch a marten and will kill and eat them as well as everything else..

Even Canadian Lynx remains have been found in Fisher dens
and vice versa..

They can run down a tree head first and have amazing leaping and jumping ability.

They are basically an arboreal wolverine..


23 posted on 12/05/2005 5:42:17 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: SteveMcKing

A trapper I used to know swears he saw one fight a badger that was trying to defend a big pile of deer corn...

The badger lost a leg in the fight and limped off...the fisher
got the corn..

Dont know if he also ate the badgers leg...but that would be typical of them.


24 posted on 12/05/2005 5:44:07 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: tscislaw

I suspect I may not get cyberlaid tonight. Oh, well, I guess I'll just have to rely on the real thing.


25 posted on 12/05/2005 5:44:20 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: tscislaw
"Swiss-based environmental group WWF said on Monday its researchers photographed the strange animal, which looks like a cross between a cat and a fox, in the dense, central mountainous rainforests of Borneo."

Foxes are in the Family Canidae with dogs. OMG, dogs are doing it with cats! Can the Apocalypse be far behind!? :-)

26 posted on 12/05/2005 5:53:11 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: tscislaw

Or a Jackinthebox...

"Go Carnivores!"


27 posted on 12/05/2005 5:56:32 PM PST by Diddle E. Squat
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To: tscislaw


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4501152.stm


'New mammal' seen in Borneo woods
By Richard Black
Environment Correspondent, BBC News website




The creature, believed to be carnivorous, was spotted in the Kayan Mentarang National Park, which lies in Indonesian territory on Borneo.

The team which discovered it, led by biologist Stephan Wulffraat, is publishing full details in a new book on Borneo and its wildlife.

"You don't find new mammals that often, and to do so must be extraordinary," said Callum Rankine, head of the species programme at WWF-UK.

"We've got camera traps there, which are passive devices relying on infra-red beams across forest paths," he told the BBC News website.

"Lots of animals come past - it's much easier than pushing through the forest itself - and when an animal cuts the beam, two cameras catch images from the front and back."

Not a lemur


So far, two images are all that exist. But they were enough to convince Nick Isaac from the Institute of Zoology in London that the animal may indeed be new.
"The photos look most like a lemur," he told the BBC News website. "But there certainly shouldn't be lemurs in Borneo."

These long-tailed primates are confined to the island of Madagascar.

"It's more likely to be a viverrid - that's the family which includes the mongoose and civets - which is a very poorly known group," Dr Isaac said.

"One of the photos clearly shows the length of the tail and how muscley it is; civets use their tails to balance in trees, so this new animal may spend chunks of its time up trees too."

That could be one reason why it has not been spotted before. Another could be that access to the heart of Borneo is becoming easier as population centres expand and roads are built.

The WWF says this is the heart of the issue. It accuses the governments of Indonesia and Malaysia, which each own parts of Borneo, of encouraging the loss of native jungle by allowing the development of giant palm oil plantations.

Last week Pehin Sri Haji Abdul Taib Mahmud, chief minister of Sarawak, the larger Malaysian state on Borneo, said that such claims are unfounded and part of a smear campaign.

He told the BBC News website that palm oil plantations are mainly sited on land which had previously been cleared for cultivation or are in "secondary jungle".

But the WWF says species like the new viverrid - if new viverrid it be - are threatened by such development.

It is concerned that other as yet unknown creatures may go extinct before their existence can be documented.

The group is planning to capture the new species in a live trap so it can be properly studied and described.


Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/science/nature/4501152.stm

Published: 2005/12/06 01:21:11 GMT

© BBC MMV



28 posted on 12/05/2005 5:57:33 PM PST by aculeus
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You don't find new mammals that often, and to do so must be extraordinary Callum Rankine

29 posted on 12/05/2005 5:58:23 PM PST by aculeus
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To: CellPhoneSurfer

My first thought was it looks like a lemur.


30 posted on 12/05/2005 6:03:10 PM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: hang 'em

Were we once married?


31 posted on 12/05/2005 6:05:43 PM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: tscislaw

Venkman: This city is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.
Mayor: What do you mean, biblical?
Ray: What he means is Old Testament, Mr. Mayor. Real wrath of God type stuff. Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies...
Venkman: Rivers and seas boiling!
Egon: 40 years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanos...
Winston: The dead rising from the grave!
Venkman: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... Mass hysteria!


32 posted on 12/05/2005 6:08:21 PM PST by TChad
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To: satchmodog9

33 posted on 12/05/2005 6:08:50 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: tscislaw

Its the CHUPACABRA !!!


34 posted on 12/05/2005 6:09:35 PM PST by ColdSteelTalon
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To: tscislaw
It's PROOF of evolution!

(tongue-in-cheek)

35 posted on 12/05/2005 6:11:16 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Attack (Democrats) until they stop twitching and then attack some more." -J. Peter Mulhern)
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To: nkycincinnatikid
Were we once married?

It's possible, but not likely.

36 posted on 12/05/2005 6:11:51 PM PST by hang 'em (Is Devil Worship "one of the World's Great Religions"?)
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To: joesnuffy

We had one (or more?) here in mass. that was spooking people in the suburbs.

My mother saw one - she thought it was a sick dog. We all thought she was nuts, until it was identified.

Glad they don't grow too large...


37 posted on 12/05/2005 6:13:29 PM PST by SteveMcKing ("No empire collapses because of technical reasons. They collapse because they are unnatural.")
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To: tscislaw

38 posted on 12/05/2005 6:14:01 PM PST by Semi Civil Servant
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To: tscislaw
Strange New Carnivore Species

A Koranimal

39 posted on 12/05/2005 6:16:34 PM PST by Alouette (Learned Mother of Zion)
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To: Boazo
You misread the article. The scientists say it's a strange new Carnivore, not a Carny Whore as depicted in that picture you posted.
40 posted on 12/05/2005 6:18:19 PM PST by Unmarked Package
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To: visualops
So they've had pics and been researching for 3 years, but aren't showing the pics until they release their new book?? Yeah it's all about science and nature, not money. Sure.

Maybe they don't want us to bag one.;)

41 posted on 12/05/2005 6:19:44 PM PST by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: SteveMcKing
That's a new one to me. I have never even heard of a fisher cat.

I'll have to google it, learn something about it.
42 posted on 12/05/2005 6:24:07 PM PST by Fatuncle (Iffen I wuzn't iggnert, I woodn't need to be eddiecated.)
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To: pepperhead

lol


43 posted on 12/05/2005 6:25:20 PM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: tscislaw
[ Lessee, that would be a cox....or a fat. ]

LoL..

44 posted on 12/05/2005 6:37:58 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: Unmarked Package

Ah rats!


45 posted on 12/05/2005 6:40:37 PM PST by Boazo (From the mind of BOAZO)
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To: tscislaw

Well, let's just go out and shoot one and then we'll know what it is.


46 posted on 12/05/2005 6:45:20 PM PST by Kirkwood
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To: Unmarked Package

"Cats and dogs, living together...MASS HYSTERIA!!"


47 posted on 12/05/2005 6:52:09 PM PST by fightnback (I hope the liberals love their children, too.)
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To: visualops

"My first thought was it looks like a lemur."

Exactly my thought - wouldn't it be something if this were a primate?


48 posted on 12/05/2005 7:57:29 PM PST by Bubbatuck ("Hillary Clinton can kiss my ass" - Tim Robbins)
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To: Bubbatuck

I'd be interested to see some better pictures than these though.


49 posted on 12/05/2005 7:58:54 PM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: Tribune7

The hair from Russian squirrels is used for lettering and artist's brushes, great stuff. I've got a few still left from the days when I did a lot of lettering.


50 posted on 12/05/2005 8:03:21 PM PST by Sam Cree (absolute reality) - "Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one." Albert Einstein)
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