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Kan. Professor Attacked Along Rural Road (had planned course as "nice slap in their big fat face"
Houston Chronicle ^ | December 6, 2005 | AP

Posted on 12/06/2005 12:59:08 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

LAWRENCE, Kan. — A college professor whose planned course on creationism and intelligent design was canceled after he derided Christian conservatives said he was beaten by two men along a rural road early Monday.

University of Kansas religious studies professor Paul Mirecki said the men referred to the class when they beat him on the head, shoulders and back with their fists, and possibly a metal object, the Lawrence Journal-World reported.

"I didn't know them," Mirecki said of his assailants, "but I'm sure they knew me."

Messages left by the Associated Press on Mirecki's cell phone were not immediately returned.

Sheriff's Lt. Kari Wempe said Mirecki reported the attack just before 7 a.m.

The professor said he confronted the men after they were tailgating his vehicle along a road south of Lawrence. "I'm mostly shaken up, and I got some bruises and sore spots," he said.

Mirecki planned to offer a spring course called "Special Topics in Religion: Intelligent Design, Creationism and other Religious Mythologies" after the Kansas Board of Education decided to include more criticism of evolution in science standards for elementary and secondary students.

Last week, Mirecki asked the university to cancel the class after he created a furor by sending an e-mail to a student organization mocking Christian fundamentalists.

Mirecki had referred to religious conservatives as "fundies," and said a course describing intelligent design as mythology would be a "nice slap in their big fat face." He has apologized for those comments.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Kansas
KEYWORDS: cawcaw; creation; creationism; crevolist; evolution; intelligentdesign; ku; mirecki; paulmirecki; religion
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Kansas Prof. Apologizes for E-Mail [referred to religious conservatives as "fundies" ....]

University Cancels Class on Creationism [Professor Paul Mirecki, chairman of religious studies...]

1 posted on 12/06/2005 12:59:10 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I think this professor Mirecki is another one of THESE clowns:

Professor Kerri Dunn vandalized her own car and then led student protests against "hate".
It didn't take long for the police to discover that the vandalism was Dunn's own handiwork.


What I'm saying is, I think this professor Mirecki beat himself up.
I bet the cops have figured out the same thing.

2 posted on 12/06/2005 1:06:39 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

nice slap in his big fat face.


3 posted on 12/06/2005 1:11:22 AM PST by howlingmule
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To: Lancey Howard

As I was reading it, I did not think it passed the smell test either.


4 posted on 12/06/2005 1:14:26 AM PST by JLS
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To: Lancey Howard

Agreed -- this guy's a total liar. Though I do think the very existence of dudes like the Prof raises a serious challenge to the argument for "intelligent design". :)

-Dan

5 posted on 12/06/2005 1:15:50 AM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I was thinking exactly the same thing.

Remember "Dirty Harry?"

[How do we know you didn't beat him up?

Because he looks too damn good.]


6 posted on 12/06/2005 1:20:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: howlingmule

But by whom?

This fellow sounds unbalanced.


7 posted on 12/06/2005 1:21:24 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2005/dec/06/mirecki_treated_after_roadside_beating/?city_local


Mirecki said in a phone interview that the incident happened as he was “going out for breakfast, taking a drive and thinking about things.” He declined to say exactly where it happened, and the sheriff’s department did not release the location, except to say it was south of Lawrence.

Mirecki said that when the pickup truck began tailgating him, he stopped his vehicle hoping it would pass. Instead, the men pulled up directly behind him, he said.

“They got out, and I made the mistake of getting out,” he said.

Mirecki said the beating began almost instantly. The men punched him about the head and shoulders and struck him with a metal object, he said.

(snip)

The sheriff’s office is classifying the case as an aggravated battery. On Monday afternoon, the office asked for the public’s help finding the suspects. Mirecki described them as two white males between the ages of 30 and 40, one wearing a red visor and wool gloves and both wearing jeans.

(snip)

“The information that we have is pretty basic,” Lt. Kari Wempe said. “Our investigators are working on it right now.”

(snip)

When told that some people were questioning the truth of his report, Mirecki fired back.

“The right wing wants blood, period. They’re not going to stop until they see blood. They’re not into anything else,” he said. “Whatever I do, whatever I say, they don’t believe anything because that’s the way they are... I know what happened. I got the hell beat out of me. They can say what they want.”

(snip)


8 posted on 12/06/2005 1:28:22 AM PST by maggief
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To: maggief

How very interesting.....

Thanks for the post.


9 posted on 12/06/2005 1:37:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Lancey Howard

I agree with your assessment - he beat himself - or had someone else beat him up.

In the article:
KU religious studies professor Tim Miller said he saw Mirecki on Monday and that he looked “scraped up.”

Also -

“This whole incident is starting to cast doubt that I can actually share my thoughts effectively without someone waiting for me at my car,” said Kansas University student Andrew Stangl, president of KU’s Society of Open-Minded Atheists and Agnostics.


One of Mirecki’s most vocal critics, conservative activist John Altevogt, said he couldn’t imagine anyone he knows doing such a thing...

But Altevogt said he was skeptical about whether Mirecki’s report was legitimate.

“He (Mirecki) has very little credibility left,” Altevogt said. “The one thing that could save his bacon is to become a martyr of sorts, or to elicit sympathy from being the victim rather than the persecutor.”


10 posted on 12/06/2005 1:44:07 AM PST by Anita1 (You can't argue against the truth!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Remember that California professor who faked an attack on her and defaced her own vehicle with graffiti???

Could this be another hoax?

11 posted on 12/06/2005 1:46:24 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: Lancey Howard

I did not see your post under the article before I wrote mine... LOL!!


12 posted on 12/06/2005 1:50:35 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: Flux Capacitor

Its also a serious arguement against the notion of 'survival of the fittest'.


13 posted on 12/06/2005 1:52:19 AM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I remember Morton Downey, Jr. tried a stunt like this at SFO to gin up his TV ratings.


14 posted on 12/06/2005 1:54:59 AM PST by Prince Charles
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Time to start packing Prof. Amen.


15 posted on 12/06/2005 1:56:54 AM PST by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Lancey Howard

My first thought as well.


16 posted on 12/06/2005 2:01:06 AM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Lancey Howard
I think this professor Mirecki is another one of THESE clowns

Roger that. Who, in their right mind, stops to "confront" two people tailgating them?

17 posted on 12/06/2005 2:04:53 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I have no doubt that there are people out there who would do something like this, but I have a hard time believing this one. If two guys go to the trouble of stalking him at 0630 and get their chance to dance on his face at roadside he would be more than "scraped up". He claims he pulled over to let them pass then gets out of the car when it is clear they want a piece of him. BS - I don't believe he is that stupid, but I do believe he is gutless enough to arrange for ridiculously minor injuries in order to save his sorry keister in the media.


18 posted on 12/06/2005 2:21:10 AM PST by 70times7 (An open mind is a cesspool of thought)
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To: JLS

I thought the same thing.


19 posted on 12/06/2005 2:44:22 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Especially some wimpy liberal!


20 posted on 12/06/2005 2:46:18 AM PST by mlc9852
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To: maggief

LMAO!

Two white guys in jeans with WOOL GLOVES? Oh, and a "metal object".

Maybe it was Monty Burns and Mr. Smithers judging by the "pummeling he recieved.
"right wingers!"


21 posted on 12/06/2005 2:47:14 AM PST by Forte Runningrock
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To: Lancey Howard
What I'm saying is, I think this professor Mirecki beat himself up. I bet the cops have figured out the same thing.

My first thought too. This is all a little too tidy to pass the smell test.
22 posted on 12/06/2005 3:28:24 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Obviously a fake "hate crime", modelled after Tawana Brawley.

Since Saint Tawana did her thang, there have been many, many other examples. All of them result from the Left's projection of their own hatred and wish to destroy onto normal people. This is so they can say, to themselves, "See - we are in danger from them", when they are the source of all the danger.

23 posted on 12/06/2005 3:32:09 AM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: GeronL
Could this be another hoax?

THAT is a given.

24 posted on 12/06/2005 3:33:18 AM PST by Jim Noble (Non, je ne regrette rien)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'VE GOT IT!!!!!!!!

Police should "arrest" two police officers that have irrefutable alibis for the time of the incident, and dress them similarly to this fruitcake's description. When he positively ID's them as the assailants (as I'm sure he would), NAIL HIM WITH THE EVIDENCE AND ARREST HIM!

25 posted on 12/06/2005 3:41:21 AM PST by cincinnati65 (Just up the road a piece.......)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

let's see - oh ya here we go - "Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me".

Then how come all this liberal BS is killing me?


26 posted on 12/06/2005 3:45:25 AM PST by kentj
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To: Lancey Howard
"What I'm saying is, I think this professor Mirecki beat himself up. "

I agree.

27 posted on 12/06/2005 3:54:28 AM PST by OldEagle (May you live long enough to hear the legends of your own adventures.)
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To: maggief
Mirecki said in a phone interview that the incident happened as he was “going out for breakfast, taking a drive and thinking about things.”

I'm not sure but this seems sort of an odd time of year to be out just driving around thinking. Hasn't it been pretty icy and snowy around Lawrence? Maybe a Freeper in the area would know.

28 posted on 12/06/2005 4:04:53 AM PST by foolscap
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To: All
Mirecki
29 posted on 12/06/2005 4:07:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: maggief

... one wearing a red visor and wool gloves and both wearing jeans...

Dang. The temp. yesterday morning in Lawrence, KS was around 12 degrees with a 10+ mph wind and this dude was wearing a visor?

30 posted on 12/06/2005 4:10:02 AM PST by elli1
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To: maggief

I bet it will come out that he wasn't even on that road.

Something doesn't pass the smell test.


31 posted on 12/06/2005 4:11:33 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Jim Noble

But that was justified even if false! Anything to advance the cause is acceptable!


32 posted on 12/06/2005 4:14:21 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

They could have executed him just as easily. I don't believe this happened.


33 posted on 12/06/2005 4:16:24 AM PST by ez ("Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is." - Milton)
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To: maggief
Mirecki described them as two white males between the ages of 30 and 40,
one wearing a red visor and wool gloves and both wearing jeans.


34 posted on 12/06/2005 4:17:03 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Lancey Howard
What I'm saying is, I think this professor Mirecki beat himself up.

OK you're going to have to explain that one to me. How do you beat yourself up?

35 posted on 12/06/2005 4:19:33 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: JLS

It smells like Tawana Brawley to me.


36 posted on 12/06/2005 4:22:26 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: cincinnati65
When he positively ID's them as the assailants (as I'm sure he would), NAIL HIM WITH THE EVIDENCE AND ARREST HIM!

You are watching too much TV. ;)

37 posted on 12/06/2005 4:23:22 AM PST by TankerKC (Done with the NFL..)
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To: cincinnati65

"Police should "arrest" two police officers that have irrefutable alibis for the time of the incident, and dress them similarly to this fruitcake's description. When he positively ID's them as the assailants (as I'm sure he would), NAIL HIM WITH THE EVIDENCE AND ARREST HIM!"

Never have a plan of action that requires your opponent to be a bigger idiot than you, and you will avoid unpleasant surprises.


38 posted on 12/06/2005 4:24:39 AM PST by BeHoldAPaleHorse (MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
they were tailgating his vehicle along a road south of Lawrence.

They were having a keg party in anticipation of a sporting event?! LOL

39 posted on 12/06/2005 4:26:28 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

"The professor said he confronted the men after they were tailgating his vehicle along a road south of Lawrence."

Not to excuse the beating, if it actually happened, but if he confronted them, then he is stupid.


40 posted on 12/06/2005 4:31:27 AM PST by caver (Yes, I did crawl out of a hole in the ground.)
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To: oh8eleven

LOL, call crime stoppers. ;)


41 posted on 12/06/2005 4:43:42 AM PST by maggief
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To: Forte Runningrock
Ok... we did it... !!!!!!!

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42 posted on 12/06/2005 4:50:48 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Dick Vomer
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43 posted on 12/06/2005 4:52:24 AM PST by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: mlc9852

If I know it's some wimpy liberal tailgating me, I stop and use his ashtray as a urinal. You just never know when the person tailgating you is crazier (and better armed) than you are.


44 posted on 12/06/2005 4:58:16 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That cinches it. He's a fraud.


45 posted on 12/06/2005 5:00:06 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (NY Times headline: Protocols of the Learned Elders of CBS, Fake but Accurate, Experts Say)
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To: Lancey Howard
My first thoughts/suspicions about this - surely has the Liberal, desperate, mal-content MO to it. It is their own hate that is transparent.

But. . .we must wait/see. . .

46 posted on 12/06/2005 5:01:41 AM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: Lancey Howard

My thoughts exactly. This is, dollars to donuts, a fake crime.


47 posted on 12/06/2005 5:10:37 AM PST by gridlock (eliminate perverse incentives)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Mirecki

========

The mind reels with sarcastic responses

48 posted on 12/06/2005 5:17:45 AM PST by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: Lancey Howard
What I'm saying is, I think this professor Mirecki beat himself up.

If somebody was going to "beat" someone up, would he be able to walk into a room and nobody notice anything different? No busted lip, broken arm, internal injuries? In a middle aged man? Give me a break.

49 posted on 12/06/2005 5:22:18 AM PST by Nonstatist
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To: elli1

Heading out to play a round of golf,no doubt!


50 posted on 12/06/2005 5:23:52 AM PST by babydoll22 (If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
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