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Isn’t 25 years of Burning Candles for Lennon just Boringly Enough Already?
opinion | 12-8-2005 | brianbaldwin

Posted on 12/08/2005 10:30:24 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin

A Korean brothel on 23rd Street in New York proudly displays John Lennon’s signed photograph. Mr. Lennon was a patron in the early 70’s, during the time Yoko Ono was pregnant. At the time he had just dumped his “mistress” May Pang, another Oriental like Yoko, who was one of his “toys” often at the arrangement of Yoko herself. Drugs, sex and rock and roll were certainly his forte as with so many “rock stars” of the decade, that is when he wasn’t totally impotent, often due to use of heroin. Everyone who lived the times knows the factual details of John Lennon’s behaviors, whoring with prostitutes and such – I guess by the early 70’s he decided he wasn’t Jesus after all.

In 1967, no doubt after too much acid (LSD), John Lennon announced to his cohort at the time, boyhood friend Pete Shotton, “Pete!” – Lennon whirling his arms slowing in birdie motion – “I think I’m Jesus Christ!”.

He make it clear, “I’ve got to tell everyone! I’ve got to let the world know who I am!”. When Pete told Lennon that they would kill him, Lennon ask how old was Jesus when they killed the Christ. Pete guessed 32 years old, and Lennon came back excitedly and serious that this means he has a good four more years to live. The next day Lennon then called a hasty “staff” meeting at the Apple H.Q., for “important” information. By that afternoon, Ringo, Paul and George (thus all four Beatles), and Neil and Derek and such Apple crowd big shots show up keen on what the important information would be. Everyone sitting around the desk, Lennon stands up and says, “I have got something VERY important to tell you all . . . I am Jesus Christ come back again.” He then demanded that Apple Inc. prepare an immediate press release announcing his return, the return of Jesus Christ.

Incredibly, Apple officials dared not even question it with objection. They were silent. They said they needed time to “think about it”.

Later, Lennon and friend went to a restaurant. A middle aged man asked him, how are you? Lennon replied, not jokingly, “Actually, I’m Jesus Christ.”

You know, the fatty who shot John Lennon, Mark Chapman, he too got into a Jesus thing. And like Lennon, this was after a goodly spout of hippie hippie hippie doing meths, barbs, maryjane, and of course, LSD. Like Lennon, Chapman, and all the others of the hippie hippie hippie, it was drugs. Some fools too young to even know those years, today hold candles to makeshift shires constructed to commemorate the “death of Lennon” and “imagine” themselves a hippy. They pretend to be “Beatles fans”.

Like everybody else, I too was a Beatles fan. I remember going into the equivalent of the 7-11 of it’s time, it wasn’t even a record store, and piled high, HIGH, stacks of “Sgt. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band” records ready for sale. I think it was the summer of 1967. I picked one up and bought it. Of course, it was a shock to me. To me, the Beatles were the “Hard Days Night” scene, the mop heads with the girls screaming for them, “I want to hold your hand” and such. But now, the Beatles were changing their image. We were on to it a year previous, with albums such as “Rubber Soul” and such.

And just before that, some album which had a controversial cover, of all the Beatles sitting on and around boxes, and all about them at their feet and such chopped up babies and blood, the Beatles holding the instruments of such chopping. The babies were dolls, of course, not real. But it looked real. This cover was plastered over with a more respectable one and went to sale. On many of the records, you could peel off the respectable cover to reveal hidden one under it.

Yes, and the shreaks of girls during those months when “Paul is Dead!” – the hidden messages on the covers of the albums, and in the songs. What year was that? 1969? If you play Number Nine backwards it says Turn Me on Deadman.

Oh yes, the hippie hippie days. Everyone was a Beatles fan.

You know the world is a small place. I kid you not. I remember going over to a friends house, and there was this girl who lived there, long, straight and long, black hair. She always wore dark sun glasses when it was most inappropriate to wear them. She sure was a Beatles fan.

Yes, she would get us boys in the neighborhood to all gather around, and we would play a little game. It went like this. She would take the Beatles album Hard Days Night. On the flip side of the jacket were all these black and white photos of the Beatles, Paul, John, Ringo, George, each in little squares they were like a checkerboard was the back of this album. The Beatles, each portrait in a cute pose, pointing up, looking sideways, and such.

Out would come little plastic pieces. A little plastic telephone. A funny dragon. A skeleton head. And such. And the dice.

The pieces would be moved about on the checkerboard of the Beatles faces on the back of this album. The rules of the game were unusual. The objective wasn’t to win. The objective was to lose. You try to lose and get out as fast as possible. If you are the last one, the winner, then you’re the square. The loser by winning, and the winners are the losers.

Yes, she was sure a big Beatles fan. And, the real reason the boys would come by and play, is because these strange fellows would show up, and we would listen through the wall into the next room to “hear them getting it on”. The inside of the house, was dirty. Outside, on the back and side, fleas leaped, latterly as if they were in ecstasy.

The hippie hippie guys would show up. I remember one day, this really old beat up crap of a car pulls up. I knew the drive was bad news. Another guy gets out, he’s a freak. Scratchy beard. A Levi’s like, shoulder-less, jacket, with all these patterns sewn on it. Real freak.

It was later, I learn that Susan Atkins murdered some actress. I figured out, without a doubt, the freak was Charlie. Charles Manson.

Like John, and Mark "David" Chapman, and those freaks, they dropped acid and all of that. Hippie hippie hippie. The freaks, they took DMT. That was real bad stuff, it would tear their head off and spin it.

The freaks, like Susan, real Beatles fans. They liked to hang green apples with strings, and light candles instead of your old bulb. They got religion. The messages, they were in the Beatles songs. Hidden codes in the album covers. The blacks, they were all going to riot and kill white people, but the hippies would hide down in a hole in the desert, but after the killing, the “Helter Skelter”, the hippies would come out of the hole, and being the only ones who hung out to “survive” in a hole like lazy and losers (after all, the way you win, is to lose … if you are a loser, you’re a winner), they would inherit the world.

The only thing was, for them freaks it was taking too long to happen. So they figured after a lot of DMT they would speed up the process of Helter Skelter by killing some white folks for the blacks a head of time and get the fighting started.

Meanwhile, there was John Anderson ("Jack") hanging out in Haight Ashbury. Like John Lennon, John Anderson was doing acid and, like John, he too figured out that he was Jesus Christ. So he took all of his clothes off, and walked around the neighborhood being Jesus. Folks looked up to him, John, the naked Jesus.

John Anderson, he was a big time Beatles fan. Would sing the songs on the guitar.

Today a bunch of ex-hippies are big time liberal Democrats. Them big time liberal Democrats sure hate the “Jesus crowd”, them “Christian conservatives”. But back then, religion was big time. Real big. Real big religion. It was Jesus, long hair. And, mixing in Buddha. And 20 other Gods. And, religion was a real big thing. Some who weren’t there, but think they want to be hippie hippie hippie today, I don’t really think they know just how big religion was – like there were cults you wouldn’t believe. In fact, the whole core of the head thing that the drugs did was the colors and the “color t.v. behind your eyelids” and then the religion. Only it was bad religion.

John Lennon. Now it’s been 20 years of lighting candles for John Lennon.

What a bunch of dopes. Candles.

What a bunch of dopes. The phony liberal, old, media.

Candles.

Isn’t 25 years of burning candles for Lennon just boringly enough already?

You know. Mark "David" Chapman didn’t kill John Lennon. Yoko did.


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To: Kokojmudd

BTW the beatles would have gone out of business had they not been inspired by Pet Sounds to change their own sound.




Say it again.

The Beatles were really into ripping off other styles/genres.


141 posted on 12/10/2005 3:06:42 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: Fruitbat

Yoko Ono is a nutjob as well.

If she had only married Luigi Nono and written a piece for nine instruments based on the tunes of a famous French musical show, we'd have the: Yoko Ono Nono No No Nanette Nonette.


142 posted on 12/10/2005 3:17:27 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch ist der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: eleni121

Whether you like them or not is a value judgment... You just look silly trying to say The Beatles are a passing fad, when, I'd be willing to bet money more people alive today know more of their songs by heart than the popular songs of the rest of the top ten put together.

Staying power, they've got. A permanent place in music history, they've got. Whether eleni121 likes them, has no bearing on that. Sorry!


143 posted on 12/10/2005 3:46:36 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
Like everybody else, I too was a Beatles fan.

Nope. I grew up in the late 60's and 70's, and never thought they were a big deal. Never bought any of their music. None of my friends were big Beatles fans, in fact I knew few people who were. There were plenty of parties to attend, and I don't remember much Beatles music being played. We must have been living in bubble.

144 posted on 12/10/2005 3:53:41 PM PST by FlyVet
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To: HairOfTheDog

I do not disagree that they have so far had "staying power". But I think once the boomer bubble has passed on their popularity will shrink...the Beatle "thing" is tied into the youthful memories of that demographic group.

Seriously I actually liked some of their songs as a teen..cute little melodies, derived from other more talented musicians and composers..nevertheless soothing and cute...kind of hippie lite stuff. Certainly not hard edged nor ground breaking. But at the same time I was listening to other more complex music and the Beatles just evaporated into OZ.

You apparently have access to a limited array of music from which to judge..



145 posted on 12/10/2005 4:19:55 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121
You apparently have access to a limited array of music from which to judge..

You apparently have pretty inaccurate perceptions on more than one count.

146 posted on 12/10/2005 4:21:52 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: AZRepublican
And Pat Boone's albums don't, right?

I don't know anything about Pat Boone's albums.

Do you like Pat Boone? I don't.

147 posted on 12/10/2005 4:33:47 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: msf92497
All we are saying ...
Is give it a rest.
148 posted on 12/10/2005 4:36:01 PM PST by bvw
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To: HairOfTheDog; Mr. Mojo; deadhead

no doubt

the time space and familiarity divide between my music (1965-80) and my childrens' music (now) is much closer than between mine and my parents (40s-very early 50s..big band-boogie woogie-Elvis en utero)

i feel sorry for kids today regarding popular music...and i don't mean that condecendingly...it's like it's played out

my teen daughters love to mine my music...as long as it's not the Dead....they HATE the Dead


149 posted on 12/10/2005 4:38:57 PM PST by wardaddy (A Christian President whom I like who would say Christmas on his cards is all I ask for.)
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To: wardaddy
"my teen daughters love to mine my music...as long as it's not the Dead....they HATE the Dead"

LOL...the Dead rule, tell your daughters that I said so. Maybe your youngs ones haven't heard the best songs from the Dead :-) Great dancing music. Was listening to the DEAD as I decorated my house for Christmas today...

150 posted on 12/10/2005 4:49:03 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: deadhead

I listen almsot daily myself although my 3 and 5 year old manchildren beg for anything Black Sabbath from the first thru Volume IV


motivational music...I think it stirs some deep Celtic DNA in them....like bagpipes used to do

AC-DC works too...and The Cult


151 posted on 12/10/2005 4:52:13 PM PST by wardaddy (A Christian President whom I like who would say Christmas on his cards is all I ask for.)
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To: wardaddy
Wonderful that your children like listening to music :-) When I was young, my Mom loved rock n' roll. (60's 70's) We would sing and dance while cleaning up after dinner, etc... My Mom always played music. LOL...remember well when she went through her country faze in the late 70's. Wonderful memories!

Sing and dance with your young ones, years down the road...they will remember the happy times you shared

Yep, I love the Dead....been to many, many shows and miss seeing them after Jerry died in '95. Listen to them all the time. But, I love all music...am right now listening to Dire Straits..'Sultans of Swing'

152 posted on 12/10/2005 5:04:47 PM PST by deadhead (God Bless Our Troops and Veterans)
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To: wardaddy
Still listen to the Fab Four. ....Rubber Soul earlier today, in fact. Timeless music...

I find most of Lennon's post-Beatles material bitter, nasty, and self-indulgent. (Harrison's triple album All Things Must Pass was the finest post-Beatles moment for any of them, imo). JL was an undisputed musical genius, but I ain't lightin' any candles for the guy or singing "Imagine there's no countries" while draped in a UN flag surrounded a bunch of nostalgic freaks badly in need of a shower.

153 posted on 12/10/2005 5:45:58 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: deadhead
Last Dead show I attended was in '86 at the Ventura County Fairgrounds. Excellent show. ....they were tight that day. When Lesh was on, the Dead were on. He was their backbone.

Best Dead show I ever saw was in San Diego at the Golden Hall in '82. ....first night of three.

Jerry's incredibly underrated as a guitarist. ....outside of Deadhead circles, that is.

154 posted on 12/10/2005 5:54:55 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: HairOfTheDog

http://www.areddy.net/beatles_suck/


155 posted on 12/10/2005 6:32:16 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

Good night.


156 posted on 12/10/2005 6:33:18 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: Brian_Baldwin
A Korean brothel on 23rd Street in New York proudly displays...

A fitting tribute.

157 posted on 12/10/2005 6:49:24 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Petronski
You gotta hear this one!


158 posted on 12/10/2005 7:02:08 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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To: Delta 21

I heard ABOUT it. But I'm betting it sucks.


159 posted on 12/10/2005 7:03:18 PM PST by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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To: Petronski
Ozzy definatly does a better Crazy Train!!
160 posted on 12/10/2005 7:08:05 PM PST by Delta 21 (MKC USCG-ret)
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