John and Ono
Posted on 12/08/2005 10:30:24 PM PST by Brian_Baldwin
Yes, the Beatles were no doubt the deepest, most intellectual lyricists the world has ever known. Who could ever forget ---
We all live in a Yellow Submarine. A Yellow Submarine, a Yellow Submarine. We all live in a Yellow Submarine. A Yellow Submarine, a Yellow Submarine. We all live in a Yellow Submarine. A Yellow Submarine, a Yellow Submarine. We all live in a Yellow Submarine. A Yellow Submarine, a Yellow Submarine. [Repeat first verse 4 more times]
Or who could ever forget the first time we beheld the incredibly deep and soul-searching wordsmithing found in ---
Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? No one will be watching us, Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? No one will be watching us, Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? Why don't we do it in the road? No one will be watching us, Why don't we do it in the road?
And last but not least, we'll never forget the pithy, profound, philosophical lyrics of ---
Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Jude, Jude. Judy Judy, Judy Judy. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude. Na na, na na, na na na na. Na na na na, hey Jude.
Well, okay .... if you were high on acid away back yonder, these lyrics actually could seem quite deep and profound. But for the rest of us ......
Imagine there's no lib'ruls. It's easy if you try. No haters, no race-baiters. No one to cheer when babies die. Imagine all the taxpayers, Living their lives free.....
Why should we care how folks remember Lennon. It;s not for me but it's their business.
It's a moody Victorian building. There have always been rumors of it being haunted. Personally, I find it uncharming. The main draw for the place are the enormous rooms.
p.s. the Ansonia Hotel/apts in the same neighborhood is a much cooler building.
I was one of those who had been brought up on the whole Beatle "Legend." They had broken up long before I was old enough to listen to them. The closest thing to a Beatles experience my generation had was Kiss. Lennon was an intellectual goofball, but he was able to clean up his act so that he could be a father to Sean Lennon. Had he lived he probably would have wound up as semi-retired rock royalty, making occasional appearances on talk shows; heck there might even have been a reality show starring him by now.
Lennon was a truly great musician and writer but probably an unpleasant and selfish person, addled by drugs and emotional difficulties.
I never will forget Merv Griffins description of dealing with the Lennons after their time on his TV show. He said they totally trashed their studio rooms and went out of their way to be rude and mean to underlings. And his treatment of his older son wasn't too hot either.
I've always given him a little bit of a pass considering he seems to have been a true drug addict. Doesn't anyone wonder why he spent all that time in bed? He was too sedated to move.
Judging from Yoko Ono, he had terrible taste in women.
She looked like a little boy. But then, maybe that was the point with him.
Yeah, his death has been overdone.
The "peace and anti-war musician" couldn't even make peace with Paul. He could be a real prick sometimes.
What a phoney.IMO
The only thing I remembered about Dec. 8th is that it's the Feast of the Immaculate Conception. I didn't even remember that Lennon was shot on the 8th; wasn't on my radar screen. I remember that it happened, but I frankly wasn't that affected by it, though I loved the Beatles as a group. There was an editorial in our local community news about how it had such a profound effect on our generation. BUNK! There were some, to be sure, affected, but not any that I knew. Maybe up here in the Northeast it was more pronounced, but not in the South where I grew up.
Because of the technology available at the time, pop culture didn't impact certain parts of America as much as others. That's changed. My guess is that hip-hop has more of an impact than the 60s music.
Sorry Brian, he was a crazy drugged out freak who played music. I feel crazier for having read this.
The cult of personality the surrounds him grates on me. He,,,wasn't,,,all,,,that. "Jealous Guy" is a great song, the rest of his solo stuff is just average or below. Roxy Music did a cover of "Jealous Guy" that I thought was better than the Lennon original. Go figure.
"John -- and George -- were a big part of lots of our lives. Lots of us are sorry they are gone."
Agreed. Makes me harken back to my innocent and uncomplicated younger days. I remember, along with several girlfriends, winning a radio contest for tickets to see the opening show of A Hard Day's Night. Silly me,I actually tried to hear the dialogue over the screams of fellow Beatle fans;) Ah,good times,good times.
I liked the Beatles. Doubt I'll ever see their like again. Didn't care for their solo stuff much, and agree that Lennon's post-Beatles work was relatively weak. Interesting at times, but invisible compared to his contributions as a Beatle.
However, saying that the Brits' pushing black music is "BS" is flat wrong. The central figures in blues music had been popular enough earlier among black American audiences, but had never broken into the mainstream and were languishing in most places by the mid-1950s. There was a vital blues scene in Chicago, but other than isolated - not to mention dangerous - road houses and clubs, that was pretty much it. Same thing happened to jazz, only its musical center had shifted to Paris, its low point occurred in the mid-'60s, and most of the big names of the genre attribute it to the vast popularity of rock. The Jazz Crusaders, for example, changed their name to the Crusaders in the '60s in an attempt to appeal to a broader audience, as jazz had simply dried up from a fiscal perspective.
It's simply a fact that British music labels brought American black blues musicians to their shores, recorded them and promoted them, and achieved a great deal of interest among Brits in their music. No doubt do-wop and rockabilly were influenced by black music, but neither were ever anything but minor currents in American music. The British invasion changed the entire landscape, and it was definitely a British phenomenon, not an American one. The non-black names associated with those British recording sessions are familiar today: Eric Clapton, John Mayall, Steve Winwood, John McVie, Mick Taylor, Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, just to name a few. Major American labels missed the boat completely, and joined the parade well after it had begun. They subsequently sought and bought established black artists' contracts, but had pretty much ignored them up until the mid-'60s. There was a major revival in blues music in the '60s, and major American labels had almost nothing to do with starting it.
Say what you want about Lennon's and the Beatles' influence on anything, but at least stick to the facts about the music environment in which they became top players.
Thankfully there was soul music out there at that time.....thank you Berry Gordy and thank you Stax Records and thank you Muscle Shoals and thank you Ahmet Ertegun and thank you Jerry Wexler and thank you Phil & Leonard Chess! And thank you to DJ's like Porky Chedwick and TL in Pittsburgh for all the great soul music back then! I'd hardly call ANY of the Fab Four geniuses or brilliant, though certainly they had a few songs that were fun to listen to. However, those four nasally voices and the snotty demeanor of John and Paul were very off-putting. Now I'll sit back and watch all you Beatlemaniacs get your Fab Four Underoos in a twist as I turn up my Temptations and Four Tops CD's.
Phil & Leonard Chess!
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