Skip to comments.Professor Mirecki blasts KU, sheriff’s investigation: Alleged beating by "Christians" a hoax?
Posted on 12/10/2005 9:13:23 AM PST by rface
Kansas University professor Paul Mirecki said hes hired an attorney and is ready to go to the mat with KU and the Douglas County Sheriffs Office.
If I have to sue, I will, he said.
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Professor Mirecki now mum on alleged beating: Alleged beating by "Christians" a hoax?
WHAT HAPPENED TO PAUL MIRECKI? (Phony Hate Crime Alert) by Michelle Malkin ^
Mirecki said hes angry because KU didnt back him after religious conservatives attacked him for his plan to teach a course dealing with intelligent design.
Mirecki became a political lightning rod after his new course was announced and his derisive comments on an Internet message board about conservative Christians and Catholics were later widely distributed.
His planned spring course was canceled. Still, some legislators said they would call Mirecki and KU Chancellor Robert Hemenway on the carpet for a public hearing.
On Wednesday the university announced Mirecki had resigned as chairman of the religious studies department. But Friday, Mirecki told the Journal-World he was forced to step down. Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki displays on Friday the bruises that he says came from a beating two men gave him early Monday. He says the university has not been supportive of him through his ordeal.
Photo by Richard Gwin
Kansas University religious studies professor Paul Mirecki displays on Friday the bruises that he says came from a beating two men gave him early Monday. He says the university has not been supportive of him through his ordeal.
The University penalized me and denied me my Constitutionally protected right to speak and express my mind, he wrote in a statement prepared for the newspaper. Ive become radioactive and the Universitys administrators wont support me.
Mirecki said his career was ruined and that speaking engagements that I had lined up now have been canceled.
On Friday, he displayed two black eyes and a bruise on his arm that he said came from a beating administered early Monday by two unknown men who had followed him in a pickup truck as he drove to breakfast. He said his attackers mentioned the controversy.
He said he was not pleased with the sheriffs investigation because he had been treated more like a criminal than a victim.
He said he was interviewed by officers several times, once for five hours straight. They keep asking me the same things over and over. They seized my car; they entered my office and seized my computer. They said they need them for their investigation but it didnt make any sense to me.
Lt. Kari Wempe, a spokeswoman for the Douglas County Sheriffs Office, released a statement Friday night that said the sheriffs office had not seen a copy of Mireckis prepared statement to the media.
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* 6News video: Mirecki hires lawyer to look into resignation (12-09-05) * Mirecki press release (.pdf) * Professor blasts KU, sheriffs investigation (12-10-05) * Embattled KU professor has long history with religion (12-10-05) * Conservative made postings public (12-10-05) * KU provost says ID course needed (12-09-05) * Pastors condemn attack (12-08-05) * 6News video: Mirecki resigns from KU department post (11-30-05) * Mirecki resigns leadership position (12-08-05) * Kansas ranks last in science (12-08-05) * Police report (.pdf) * 6News video: More information released in alleged Mirecki attack (12-06-05) * Mirecki mum on details of beating (12-07-05) * 6News video: Mirecki hospitalized after beating (12-05-05) * Mirecki treated after roadside beating (12-06-05) * K-State, others tackling intelligent design in classroom (12-04-05) * KU could face heat in Topeka (12-03-05) * Conservative critic known for inflammatory speech (12-03-05) * 6News video: KU professors make statement about academic freedom (12-02-05) * Intelligent design course canceled (12-02-05) * 6News video: Intelligent design class at KU canceled (12-01-05) * Several of Mirecki's Yahoo! group posts (3.3 MB PDF) * More coverage * RSS LJWorld.com's Evolution in Kansas coverage
Until we are provided with a document from Mr. Mirecki, we are not able to comment on it. Our agency continues to thoroughly investigate this crime against Mr. Mirecki, Wempe said.
Mirecki said he has hired Lawrence attorney David Brown to represent him.
Hemenway said he had been told by other administrators that Mirecki stepped down from his chairmans post. He said KU has supported Mirecki.
Professor Mirecki still has a job at the University of Kansas, Hemenway said. That would appear to be support for his rights to his tenured position and his rights to free speech ... The university deplores the fact that he was apparently attacked. Weve said so.
Hemenway also said he had been told that KU police called Mirecki to see how they might help him.
But Mirecki said the university had done little to back him and that he was fired as department chairman because he had the temerity to challenge the power of the religious right in Kansas and the university capitulated to demands of the conservative minority.
He said he felt let down by the administration and colleagues who sought his resignation Tuesday.
He said he had no choice but to sign the resignation letter, which was typed on stationery from the office of Barbara Romzek, interim dean of the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences.
Mirecki said he lived under threat of another attack.
If the University doesnt support me, I could be in more physical danger because the University is not standing up to the religious extremists, he said.
He said the number of threatening letters and e-mails has increased since the chancellor called Mireckis online comments repugnant and vile in a public statement.
He said he also had received more than 2,500 e-mails and letters from academics around the world supporting him.
The University has a duty, as a protector of intellectual honesty and debate, to support its teaching staff when controversial issues are raised, Mirecki said. Now those on the right are emboldened and feel they can take this a step higher.
At this point, I just want this to be over. Comments
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Posted by RayanaSandy (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 4:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with Mirecki. KU hasn't done enough to support him at all.
Posted by even_money (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 4:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I agree with Mirecki that I, too, just want this to be over!
Posted by Sandman (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 4:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Take the polygraph! Prove everyone wrong...
Posted by truthlawrence (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 5:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)
hide behind the lawyer,boy does that say guilty
Posted by audvisartist (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 5:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Is it just me, or is anyone else REALLY tired of seeing this guy make the front page on an all too regular basis? And what's up with the black eyes? They're the most symmetrical I've ever seen!
Posted by macon47 (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 5:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)
At this point, I just want this to be over. ok, just move to boulder or southerh calif. this guy is a legend in his own mind. another educated liberal twit, that thinks KU owes him a living due to his tenure. He is so in love with himself we should clone him and let them get married.
Posted by jwmound (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 5some comments at the end of this story:
:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
yeah, don't look like any black eye ever had, but it isn't a surprise to me when the university asked for a resignation. If you believe in a high power, it will prevail reguardless of this political bullshiste!
Posted by enochville (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 5:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Those bruises look like they could come from the bottom of his glasses being smashed against his face.
Posted by audvisartist (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 6:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
hmmmm good point, enochville! But like the old cartoons say, "You'd never hit a guy with glasses!"
Posted by ksmattfish (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 6:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"Is it just me, or is anyone else REALLY tired of seeing this guy make the front page on an all too regular basis?"
Not as tired as I am of ignorant, superstitious, fundamentalist BS making the headlines.
Posted by malachi (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 6:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Unbelievable, this could have all been avoided had we left intelligent design where it belonged. In a book of fairy tales.
Posted by ksmattfish (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 6:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"hide behind the lawyer,boy does that say guilty"
I'll keep this in mind as half the Republican party lines up for court.
Posted by LawrenceMommy (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 6:17 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Just an interesting point. One of the methods they use in Emergency Departments to determine child abuse is by "staging" the bruising. Bruises of different ages appear different colors due to the process of breaking down the components of blood. The "bruises" on his face are definitely not from the same time as the one on his arm...the arm one is older. The face bruises are still a deep purple color, which indicates they are about 2-5 days old. The arm bruise is green and yellowing toward the edges. That is indicative of a bruse that is 7-10 days old. The alleged beating happened on the 5th and the picture was taken on the 9th. My math must not add up.
Posted by truthlawrence (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 6:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
now were talking,,thats why the cops had him for five hours and he now has a lawyer,the math is two plus two isnt nine,he needs to shut up and go hide at this point and wait for the cops to come get him
Posted by nschmi04 (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 7:10 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Oh, you right wingers are going to have a field day on this board this morning.
Posted by even_money (anonymous) on December 10, 2005 at 7:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It will be interesting to compare the comments here with those under the Altevogt article.
These ass***** believe their "right to free speech" includes lying and unsulting people. Someone needs to "take HIM to the mat...".
America has bigot shortage. They are so scarce, liberals have to create their own hate crimes.
Well, if it is a hoax, they'll unravel it [like they did Tawana Browley's one]. Till that time it would be more proper to refer to "allegations".
Seems like he's been perfectly free to speak his mind. He doesn't understand that there are consequences and responsibilities that go along with that.
Probably this "beating" was not how he says it was if it occurred at all.
He is still a hero to a significant subset of hardcore anti-Christians here at FR who pretend to be interested in evolution.
Is it just me or does this guy look just like Ward Churchill?
Google images of black eyes and compare. His look nothing like black eyes from an assault. Why isn't his face scarred, swollen, and bruised?
:^D The picture is funny, pointing his bruised arm at the camera. Aw, Wook at my widdow boo-boo! Jim Carey did a better job. (What was the name of that movie? Seems to me it rhymed with, "pants on fire...")
I'll take issue with the poster who's amazed at the symmetry of the black eyes... I've seen that kind of symmetry, before. On people with NOSE JOBS!
Probably paid for some sodomite rough trade.
If a couple of nutballs beat the heck out of him, there should've been some trace evidence left behind. Like red wool fibers. Anyone heard if the cops found any?
I predict that your little "hate crime" will be revealed as a hoax & that you are about to disappear into the dustbin.
If it is discovered he lied........can he be fired?
I strongly agree with you
I was going to post the same thing, except I have seen similar bruises on people who have had their nose broken. Funny, his nose looks fine to me.
The words "alleged beating by "Christians" a hoax?" do not appear in the title of the original article.
So when did this guy take off his glasses during the "fight"?
And look at those eyes. I have a hard time to believe both eyes would be like that in a one minute fight, especially if his nose didn't end up being broken. There was premeditated intelligent design in his injuries.
I have to say I'm sorta disappointed with the link the paper provided to Mirecki's email. It includes none of the more outrageous stuff; it's more trying to exculpiate him then show why people are so outraged.
Also, Note there's some good-cop/bad-cop going on with Mirecki and Hemenway. Hemenway was originally all "Tee-hee-hee, that Mirecki, he's a pisser!" Now he's closer to, "I'm outraged, outraged, I tell ya! Round up the ususal suspects!"
Don't let Hemenway get a pass on this! He's every bit the bit the screwball Mirecki is, and only changed his tune once people started wondering who on Earth would pick a raving, raging, anti-Christian bigot to lead a Religious Studies department.
In a sense, Hemenway is worse than Mirecki. Mirecki is just a stupid ball of hate handed power. (Would YOU turn down a departmental chair?) True evil is the one who would give a man like Mirecki power.
You know, I'm looking at those black eyes and very minor bruise on his arm, and thinking about this:
Ever see the MASH episode where Frank Burns brings a court-martial against Hawkeye and Trapper John?
He says he was run off the road by people looking to attack him. He says he happened to have foolishly gotten out of his car, but if they had stalked him, they must have intended to force him out of his car, right? And if he wasn't a random victim, and was attacked at six in the morning, they must have staked him out, right?
OK, suppose there's some violent, rage-filled goon. He stakes Mirecki out all night, forces him off the road, heads over to smash his way into the car, but lucky Mirecki pops out. Now you let him have it. You gently poke him in the arm, push in his glasses and drive off. Right?
Of course not! No wonder the DailyKOS people presumed he was beaten to within inches of his life! If his version of the story were true, certainly the beating would have been bad enough that the spinners at KOS would at least be reasonable in SAYING it was to within inches of his life; certainly we would forgive a slight bit of hyerbole or miscommunication. Imagine the egg on their faces when they saw this silly picture.
Now picture this:
Talk about a bad day! A religion professor just got exposed to the entire world as the vicious hate-mongerer he is. And he got fired. He's driving to breakfast and some guy cuts him off. Perfect set up for road rage. He slams on the horn, and the guy who cut him off pulls over and gets out of his car.
Mirecki is so blind with rage, he jumps out of his car seat, and wangs his arm on the door just before slamming it shut. He barrels over in a head of steam to the other drivers, head down, sleeves up. Two guys get out of the car, and as Mirecki plows at one of them, that man shoves Mirecki's head out of the way, catching his eyeglasses with the base of his palm. Mirecki falls to the ground, realizes the very dangerous circumstance he has placed himself in, and scampers off.
Notice Mirecki never claimed they said anything to connect him to his hate rants; The media and the like just highlighted that aspect of the circumstances. But what else was happening to Mirecki? Isn't it just as possible that someone in Mirecki's circumstance could bring trouble onto himself?
Right to free speech does not mean a right to be free from criticism.
If he was physically attacked, that's wrong. But criticism of what he has said and written is just free speech countering free speech.
Nice mug shot. Someone should start a collection of those. I doubt if the liberals at "The Smoking Gun" have that photo in their gallery.
Poor baby needs a hug.
Knowing a bit about academia, he is lying here. It is very unlikely that the course was pulled from him. If he was pressured to pull it, well that's his own lack of courage. Ditto with resignation as chair. He could have simply refused to resign. Having read a previous story about this, it was his colleagues that pushed the resignation. But still, if he'd had even the smallest amount of courage, he would have stayed.
He's got all the earmarks of a hoaxer: Indignant that the police ask him questions about the event and assuming that they're questioning his story. Paranoid that everybody's against him. Blaming the "right wing" and not his attackers. No word about the attackers in this story.
He wants out of Larrytown and he wants KU to give him a big chunk of money to go away. The fact is that KU has defended his academic freedom publicly even though they can't be too happy that such a bigot sits in the department chair of religious studies.
BTW, in an earlier story, it was mentioned that he had a broken tooth. No mention of it here and he didn't show it off in the photo. Hmmm...
Yes, to the extent that those consequences involve public ridicule and possible sanctions taken by one's employer.
either does the word Mirecki, but it helps everyone understand the story. If anyone does a word search for the title of the original article, they will find this post
Actually, tenure gives him the right to deny and denigrate the beliefs of others and not get fired. It will lose him the chairmanship of the department, choice of teaching assignment and other perks he might find desirable.
He's alleging that he's a victim of natural selection.
I think the lawyer is to handle the negotiations for his severance package.
I have had many a black eye, and I've seen even more. Everyone I have seen the white of the eye is always extremely bloodshot. I don't see that in these pictures.
This just gets better and better. I'm surprised the folks displaying the mock outrage a few days ago haven't shown up to defend this.
I saw no signs of any swelling, shouldn't there be at least some swelling with two black eyes?
Gee, what if...
...a rival atheist assistant or associate professor hired thugs to pose as rednecks, to frame Mirecki as a hate-crime faker, as part of an evil plot to get his job as full professor?
Nah; that is TOO far fetched...or, is it?
What do you know...'crickets'.
A blow to the nose can make both eyes turn black.
(snort!) I think he bumped his upper lip on the steering wheel--and saw an opportunity. And he's got a PhD from Harvard, so he can't possibly be intelligent.
Accompanied with a lot of blood.
I saw that. Looks like the black shadow stuff football players use.
The blood's under the skin--you'd need a doc or a nurse, but I believe this kind of an impact the blood would follow the natural depressions in the structure of the face and sinus cavities. Around the eyes, around the nose, even down the "smile wrinkle" between mouth and nose.
Wouldn't his eyes be a little bloodshot at least?