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John Altevogt, a conservative activist from Edwardsville,
helped stir the controversy surrounding Paul Mirecki.
Posted on 12/10/2005 8:19:39 PM PST by rface
If not for John Altevogt, an Edwardsville real estate broker, many of the people who became outraged by Kansas University professor Paul Mirecki’s comments might never have learned of them.
Altevogt, 60, is the conservative activist and Internet discussion board contributor who compiled and spread Mirecki’s remarks across the online Kansas Conservative Network mailing list.
Within hours, conservative Kansas lawmakers were raging. Some called for public hearings about Mirecki’s plan to teach a religious studies course on the controversial topic of intelligent design. Mirecki pledged to teach creationism and intelligent design as mythology.
“John is very effective at what he does,” said Cindy Duckett, founder of Kansas Conservative Network. “I think he has voiced an opinion that is shared with very, very many on this particular issue.”
Supported, reviled or ignored, Altevogt is a controversial character on the Kansas political scene. He said he views himself as both a populist and a gadfly.
To Altevogt, stirring up the Mirecki controversy was one of his many “research projects.” He simply compiles reports, puts the information in the public domain and hopes somebody sees it, he said.
For him, the Mirecki issue never had anything to do with intelligent design. He couldn’t care less, he said. His attention to the subject was partly due to Mirecki’s hateful approach, he said. John Altevogt, a conservative activist from Edwardsville, helped stir the controversy surrounding Paul Mirecki.
Blistering comments
As researcher and activist, Altevogt has taken on former state senator and unsuccessful attorney general candidate David Adkins, writing blistering columns about what he saw as questionable grants awarded to a nonprofit corporation run by Adkins’ wife.
In 1999, when the Department of Administration investigated the Kansas State Lottery following allegations of sexual harassment, Altevogt distributed a photograph of director Greg Ziemak with four female workers wearing bras on their heads.
Altevogt is a frequent contributor to the Kansas Conservative Network, a discussion board for conservatives, and other Internet chat groups.
His words can be inflammatory. When Mirecki proposed the course on intelligent design, Altevogt called the professor a “bigot” and said the course would be like David Duke teaching about race relations or Fred Phelps teaching about homosexuality.
Duckett said she’s not that fond of Altevogt’s direct language, but that his acerbic style can be effective.
“He’s very good at getting people’s ear,” she said. “He does carry a lot of influence, a lot of respect.”
But not with everyone.
Dick Bond, a moderate Republican, former state Senate president and member of the Kansas Board of Regents, said he pays no heed to Altevogt.
“He has been a major gadfly,” Bond said. “He is not on my radar, nor am I going to put him there ... I haven’t heard about him in a long time.”
Roy Teicher, former managing editor of The Kansas City Kansan, said many people try to marginalize Altevogt, but that’s dangerous.
Teicher, spokesman for Minnesota Senate candidate Patty Wetterling, a Democrat, said people like Altevogt prevent issues from coasting along and being controlled by a powerful few.
“It’s important to listen to all the John Altevogts of the world out there,” he said. “I just think those voices are so, so critical.”
Early days
Altevogt grew up in Fort Wayne, Ind. He said he attended the inner-city Fort Wayne Central High, a school that was about 90 percent black at the time.
There, he said, hanging out with black friends in front of the bowling alley, he saw racial bigotry firsthand.
“There was a look that you would get — just a look of hate,” he said.
He wasn’t a very good student.
“I just had a good time,” he said.
He has attention deficit disorder, and as a teenager never followed the rules. He dropped out of high school and later received his GED.
He enrolled at Indiana University-Fort Wayne intent on becoming a teacher. He fell in love with sociology instead. At Indiana, he met Saul Alinsky, the Chicago activist considered to be the father of community organizing. Altevogt calls Alinsky one of his heroes.
“This is just a guy who cared about neighborhoods and taking care of people in those neighborhoods and letting the common guy have a voice,” he said.
Altevogt said he sees himself as giving voice to conservatives who he said are often painted as lunatics or idiots.
Altevogt went to graduate school at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign.
“I really have never had much to do with the Democrats,” he said. “They just have never impressed me as a party.”
Liberalism, he said, is associated with authoritarianism, bigotry and corruption. Altevogt said he found a home among religious conservatives because he is a person of faith and he was impressed by what others in the group were saying.
On the sidelines
Altevogt attended KU in the 1990s, pursuing a doctoral degree, but he turned away from academia.
In the late 1990s, he contributed to The Kansas City Star’s op-ed page, but his political views ultimately put him crosswise with the newspaper’s management, he said.
After stints as a Christian radio host, Altevogt has settled into a routine he said enables him to be free of any conflicts of interest in his writing.
“I’ve arranged my life so I don’t have to get along with anybody other than my wife,” he said.
His political and social wrangling are a small part of his life, he said. He plays bass in the blues band Cotton Candy & So Many Men.
“I actually spend a lot more time doing music than I do politics,” he said.
And he hasn’t done any more digging into Mirecki, he said.
“I’m sort of watching the world go by at this point,” he said. “I have no desire to become a part of this story.” Comments
Thanks and sorry. . .was rereading "Swastikas for Campus Conservatives" . . .and got the Liberals mixed up. . .nothing serious. . .just 'keep on moving' please!
(The good news/bad news is, do not think anyone else noticed. . . ;^)
I think it's a Machiavellian thing...
These are tactics of sharp eye and dulcet guile. I love it. He'd be good for a long discussion on FR...
Why should the devil have all the good tactics? This is a handbook for winning rhetoric--for those wise as serpents are in a better position to be gentle as doves.
Makes perfect sense to me that Altevogt would use Alinsky's playbook. Totalitarians are totalitarians. For such people, power is what counts - the power to make others live by your rules. Whether it's theocracy or the Dictatorship of the Proletariat is just a detail.
That's an example of inflammatory??? I think it's objectively true that Mirecki is a bigot.
Interesting, because the op-ed is often supposed to be at odds with the paper's editorial view.
"You must renounce post #82, or be thought a bigot" "I'm here to remind you, you did not renounce post this and post that..."
The truth is, KU did stand up for him publicly and it was, reportedly, his colleagues who didn't want him as chairman. The lawyer can't do anything. Mirecki has tenure and KU can't do anything more to him. The lawyer is, in my humble opinion, on retainer because Mirecki wants to negotiate a fat severance package because he wants to get out, having embarassed himself.
Although his "attack" has all the hallmarks of a hoax, that hasn't been proven yet.
Could be his 'peers' who know him. . .suspect as much as well. And yes. . .does sound like he has an angle and a lawyer to help sharpen it.
The Dean said his colleagues didn't want him as chairman.
The resignation letter was on the Dean's stationery.
a.k.a. the power to maintain solely atheistic science in public schools.
I find it very interesting that this guy decided that to teach the course in his own department would be to denigrate the subject. What does that say about the rest of his "scholarship"?
The dean's role in his resignation was only known after the fact. If he felt it was a travesty, he could have refused to sign the resignation. Instead, he acquiesced.
It isn't just a denigration of the subject he had in mind, but the denigration of people who reasonably maintain that intelligent design may be a better way of explaining organized matter than whatever other explanation evolution has heretofore offered.
I can understand the emotional attachment to one's convictions, however, and have often been guilty myself of indulging inflammatory remarks just because the other side sees things differently. Bottom line is that education should allow the free expression of ideas to be accepted or rejected as reason might dictate. Mirecki is not about the free expression of ideas, but about squelching the expression of ideas with which he disagrees.
Mirecki may be knowledgable about many things, but his knowledge is not above question.
Nah. They condemned his email.
The dean's role in his resignation was only known after the fact. If he felt it was a travesty, he could have refused to sign the resignation. Instead, he acquiesced.
Zero for two. It was the dean who announced his resignation.
A chair serves at the pleasure of the dean. I'm sure it was 'resign or be fired'.
Then you make them fire you.
In the English world, maintaining a clean resume can be crucial to future employment
Such spirit!
I await with bated breath your first tussle with a dean, grasshopper. In preparation, let me give you the advice given to me by a colleague who himself was a former dean, had worked on the Manhattan Project, and went on to become a member of the Academy.
"The mistake you're making when dealing with the dean is that you assume he's a dean because he's good at administration. He's not. They don't make you dean because you're good at something. They make you dean because you're bad at everything else."
(The dean in question was a mathematician, BTW. He was particularly incompetent. ) :-)
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