Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]

University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

[Uri’el-2012]

XS>Has it been observed twice, published and independently observed?"

CG> Yes, but if you took a philosophy of science class, you would know that direct observation isn't a requirement for a scientific theory. MOST scientific theories have a lot of indirect evidence. Again, next time actually take the class, or study harder.

171 posted on 12/17/2005 10:22:13 AM MST by CarolinaGuitarman

You are right; it has been deconstructed in our post-modern universities.

When I took the course, direct observation was mandatory.

b'shem Y'shua

[Senator Bedfellow]

Thx, but it's apparently not a new creationist canard - it didn't take long to google up the reality of the situation. Ya gotta love this internet thingy :)

[Chaguito]

Your adversary might respond like his academic counterparts, “The faculty on campus is I am under no obligation to waste its my time supporting Hovind’s evolutionists' little charade.”

Please don't attack me; I'm just an innocent bystander :^)

[CarolinaGuitarman]

" When I took the course, direct observation was mandatory."

No it wasn't. We have never directly observed an electron, have we? No. It's all INDIRECT evidence. You must have slept through your class. No wonder you didn;t pass it. :)

BTW, we have DIRECTLY observed new species forming:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-speciation.html

[Uri’el-2012]

Mazel Tov

Have a nice journey!

b'shem Y'shua

[CarolinaGuitarman]

Bye!

[stormer]

"This fact was not translated into English and made public until 1971 - nearly 100 years later!"

Not sure about this "fact". Looks like Huxley admitted the error.

"Bathybius was not a fossil, but a putative primitive organism that was "discovered" living on ocean floors. It was a gelatinous layer with tiny granules in it that were sometimes observed to move around. In 1868, Thomas Huxley named it Bathybius haeckelii, because it seemed much like Ernst Haeckel's idea of a very primitive organism -- Urschleim or ancestral slime.

However, during the Challenger expedition (1872-1875), chemist John Buchanan noticed that Bathybius appeared in ocean-floor samples preserved with alcohol, but not those in normal seawater. After some experimentation, he discovered that he could produce Bathybius by adding alcohol to an ocean-floor sample; this "organism" turned out to be a precipitate of calcium sulfate. When the expedition returned, Huxley "ate leek", but otherwise took it in stride. For more details, check out this Huxley archive (http://aleph0.clarku.edu/huxley/guide9.html)."

From: http://www.evowiki.org/index.php/Fake_fossils

[AntiScumbag]

how can he make a $250,000 offer?

No, no, he's got no money. Nope, none at all. Just kiddie rides in his back yard.

But, Full Court knows all. Never mind that couple of million he scammed from idiot true believers and didn't bother to report 'cause he's a preacher with a little tax protester flavor mixed in.

She can't comprehend simple English, but she just knows her boy is innocent. Innocent, I tell ya, innocent!

[shuckmaster]

If you had read the link you would know that the "offer" comes with an asterisk that has absolutely nothing to do with evolution. Now, get back on your stake.

[stormer]

Oops - The period and close quote goofs up that link. Try this: http://aleph0.clarku.edu/huxley/guide9.html

[Alter Kaker]

Mazel Tov Have a nice journey! b'shem Y'shua

lehitra'ot eizel

[Stultis]

I actually attended one of Hovind's presentations years ago. It was much lamer than even I (at that time very familiar with the antievolution movement) expected. For instance at one point he was discussing discrimination against creationists. Asked for examples of "science journals" that had refused to publish creationist research he cited two: National Geographic Magazine and The Readers Digest. (Yep, seriously. I nearly fell out of my chair.)

[shuckmaster]

Well, you may be pig-ignorant and devilishly dishonest but, with posts like this, you're certainly good for a hearty belly laugh! Thanks for sending me off to do my chores with a huge smile.

[RunningWolf]

Well Sagan said its fact, some of your cultist buds here say its fact.

You with them or not? No schukn n jivin now either.

Wolf

[stormer]

LOL - What about the Weekly Reader?

[spinestein]

[...it didn't take long to google up the reality of the situation. Ya gotta love this internet thingy...]


It comes in handy when debating the latest Bush basher I hear tossing out "Haliburton", "selected, not elected", Bush lied, people died.", "tax breaks for his rich oil buddies" and other such brainless pap.

[AntiScumbag]

Well, you [Full Court] may be pig-ignorant and devilishly dishonest but, with posts like this, you're certainly good for a hearty belly laugh!

Pig-ignorant is a bit too charitable. But, the ownership of FC is complete.

All hail Dr. Dino!

Assuming he hasn't shut his garbage site down, he will be civilly enjoined at some point. It's also pretty obvious that he'll either plead guilty to various tax crimes or be indicted at some point.

All hail Dr. Dino!

[Senator Bedfellow]

It's always fun to find whatever crackpot source the script is coming from.

[Thatcherite]

Even Darwin, who called this his ‘strongest single class of facts’, was duped.

Too funny. You need to examine your timelines. Cretin.

[MRMEAN]

Don't you remember when your ancestors were swimin' around? Someone HAD to come up out of the water to take that first breath!