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Creation evangelist derides evolution as ‘dumbest’ theory [Kent Hovind Alert!]
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee Post ^ | 17 December 2005 | Kayla Bunge

Posted on 12/17/2005 3:58:48 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: VadeRetro
M-Mao: Positive Atheism's Big List of Quotations

You'll have to pardon me; all the atheistic websites come up when I start with Mao; they seem to think he's a beautiful, wise man. Positive atheism and Mao. Too funny.

2,101 posted on 12/26/2005 4:52:24 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: VadeRetro

There's something a bit disturbing about his ranting paranoia. I certainly don't remember killing any Jews.


2,102 posted on 12/26/2005 5:27:08 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Yes, we know that you are so utterly delusional that you believe that anyone who accepts the theory of evolution as bad science is an atheist

I must have had too much to drink last night. That should be "valid science", not "bad science". I meant to say that He Rides a White Horse is delusional for assuming that anyone who accepts the theory of evolution as valid science is an atheist. Because not everyone who accepts the theory of evolution as valid science is an atheist. And HRaWH is clearly delusional and paranoid.
2,103 posted on 12/26/2005 5:29:59 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
What's funny is that the one quote from Mao in that collection is the famous "Hundred Schools of Thought" policy which was designed to lure dissent out of the woodwork lest any particle escape uncrushed. Which is to say the policy was reversed and all that it exposed were arrested with the usual results. The operators of that site don't seem to know that.

But none of that has anything to do with what belongs in biology class.

2,104 posted on 12/26/2005 5:32:03 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Dimensio
I certainly don't remember killing any Jews.

I'm trying to quit. When I get down to one a month, I'm going cold turkey.

2,105 posted on 12/26/2005 5:32:57 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Dimensio; VadeRetro; Stultis
There's something a bit disturbing about his ranting paranoia.

I'm beginning to find it disturbing that I'm wasting my time arguing with The Three Stooges wearing monkey suits congratulating themselves on their evolutionary superiority.

2,106 posted on 12/26/2005 5:43:25 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Dimensio; VadeRetro; Stultis
I mean really, listen to you guys.

VadeRetro: Your argument is based on paranoia.
Dimensio: Yeah.
Stultis: (Shows a flashcard)
VadeRetro: Yeah, he's right. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.
Stultis: (another flashcard)
Dimensio: You're a genius and they're stupid VadeRetro.
VadeRetro: That because they're Luddites.
Stultis: (yet another flashcard)
Dimensio: They're just paranoid.
VadeRetro: Libertarians are the best. Your hit, Dimensio.
Stultis (flashcard)
Dimensio: 'ere dude, your hit. We won this one (exhales).
VadeRetro: Atheism, free dope, Darwin and Margaret Sanger. All that makes America great. Gimme that.
Stultis: (flashcard-My hit)

2,107 posted on 12/26/2005 5:51:34 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Mao-Tse Tung, Adolph Hitler, Pol Pot, Joseph Stalin, Nero, Caligula; I could go on and on.......my cadre?.....look at the company you keep before you throw stones. There is nothing paranoid about listening to you talk, and hearing the same words that came out of the mouths of the men I list above.

Bush only gets compared to Hitler. I get Hitler and Caligula! Woo-hoo!

Now go find your medication and take it. Seriously.

2,108 posted on 12/26/2005 5:53:13 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Teasing the nutcases is fun, yes. However, it isn't worth missing the last real Monday Night Football.
2,109 posted on 12/26/2005 5:56:23 PM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: Stultis
Bush only gets compared to Hitler. I get Hitler and Caligula! Woo-hoo!

All the above I listed were atheists. You've heard the all quotes before; banning of religion is the common theme. Religion is the mortal enemy of atheists, dictators, totalitarians. They are all in the same camp.

Now go find your medication and take it. Seriously.

When you atheists make your move, I'll have your medicine. A steel jacketed round right through your open mouth.

2,110 posted on 12/26/2005 6:09:50 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: VadeRetro; Stultis; Dimensio

The worst thing for you is that I'm not afraid of you would be dictators....keep shoving your agenda down our throats and see what happens.


2,111 posted on 12/26/2005 6:15:32 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
I'm beginning to find it disturbing that I'm wasting my time

FINALLY!

You've been wasting all our time for days. Glad you finally have a clue. Your time would be best spent talking to a mental health professional. At least talk to a family member or an old friend.

I'm putting putting you on virtual ignore. You'll get no more replies from me. Be well. Try to understand that, while as a citizen you can influence the world, you can't control it. You live in a free society and people will disagree with you about many things. Not all of these people are evil. Not all of these people want to destroy you. Most just want to live their own lives and will readily tolerate your doing likewise.

Again, you live in a free society. People in this society associate many different ways, in many different kinds of coalitions and other cooperate arrangements, even when they don't agree on everything. Their are many cleavages in this society, but there are also many strands running in many directions that hold it together.

Your notion that there is only one cleavage overriding all, that everyone falls definitively to one side or ther other, and that universal and violent social conflict will result, IS DELUSIONAL. Even if you see the world this way, there are not enough other people who do: even among the most conservative of the conservative. You may have some freinds that feel this way (or pretend to rather than argue with you) but there are deviant. There are not enough such people to initiate the violence you anticipate. That's simply a fact. IT ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN.

Whatever flaws you percieve, you live in a society that provides you more freedom and potential to realize your own values in your life than any in all of human history. Please try to find a way to live in this society and have some optimism.

And finally, just a recommendation: Stop posting awhile. I assure you that with your present approach and outlook you are NOT helping any cause that you believe in, but only discrediting it.

2,112 posted on 12/26/2005 6:17:40 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
A steel jacketed round right through your open mouth.

Just one more thing... Although I won't be replying further, I will be reading your messages. After a day to two (as I think it would be better if you take some time off voluntarily) I start flagging extremist threats like this to the moderators.

2,113 posted on 12/26/2005 6:20:56 PM PST by Stultis (I don't worry about the war turning into "Vietnam" in Iraq; I worry about it doing so in Congress.)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
The worst thing for you is that I'm not afraid of you would be dictators....keep shoving your agenda down our throats and see what happens.

*runs into the night*

2,114 posted on 12/26/2005 6:21:19 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: Stultis
I start flagging extremist threats like this to the moderators.

Flag away. It's a warning, a warning that if you continue in your present way, there will be conflict. This is not Nazi Germany, and you and your friends will not inflict such a state of affairs on this country.

Read my posts, open my mail while you're at it, Herr Stultis. But whatever you do, just remember we'll be there to protect ourselves when the time comes.

Seriously.

2,115 posted on 12/26/2005 6:24:47 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Seriously.

hmm

2,116 posted on 12/26/2005 6:34:49 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: bobdsmith; Stultis
*runs into the night*

I doubt that very much.

I'm not talking murder here, as any discerning person would see.

I'm warning you that if you attempt to impose any type of totalitarian society upon us, you'll pay the consequences.

If you attempt to exploit the weak, you'll pay the consequences.

If you attempt to practice the genocidal policies of Eugenics, you'll pay the consequences.

American soldiers overthrowing Saddam, American soldiers opposing atheistic communism, American soldiers fighting the Nazis, none were crazed, paranoid, or whatever such label you would attach to them.

You see Stultis, I'm a vet also.....and I swore an oath to defend this country against all enemies, foreign and domestic. The difference between you and I is that I meant it when I said it.

Being a soldier in any war such as I have described above does not make me a murderer if it comes down to it. Especially when you are the obvious aggressor. As a Christian, I don't fear death. Do you?

2,117 posted on 12/26/2005 6:38:23 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

lol ok very funny. You did well to play this joke on a few people for so long but im calling it now. Im afraid the "As a Christian, I don't fear death. Do you?" gave it away - Islamist parody.


2,118 posted on 12/26/2005 6:46:07 PM PST by bobdsmith
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To: He Rides A White Horse; Dimensio; VadeRetro
Have they brought in witch burning, or slavery during Egyptian time against you?

How about God is evil because there is disease and suffering in the world, and baby's die from causes other than abortion?

Or here is one I often hear. The universe and human body are so poorly designed, they can do better with almost a snap of the fingers LOL.

Sighh.., So little science from the FReeper scientists. So many questions demented never answers, only runs off to shout 'coward liar' from a distance.

The best case against the cause of cosmo-evo, is to come here and see the products of that flying spaghetti monster ideology.

Wolf
2,119 posted on 12/26/2005 11:02:23 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: Havoc
You got a lot of wisdom there Havoc.

I wish I could write it as well as you do.

Regards,

Wolf
2,120 posted on 12/26/2005 11:27:38 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: RunningWolf
It is only when you are asked to believe in Reason coming from non-reason that you must cry Halt. Human minds. They do not come from nowhere.
-C. S. Lewis

If the whole universe has no meaning, we should never have found out that it has no meaning: just as, if there were no light in the universe and therefore no creatures with eyes, we should never know it was dark. Dark would be without meaning.
-C. S. Lewis

Education without values, as useful as it is, seems rather to make man a more clever devil.
-C. S. Lewis

A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading.
-C. S. Lewis

A man can no more diminish God's glory by refusing to worship Him than a lunatic can put out the sun by scribbling the word, 'darkness' on the walls of his cell.
-C. S. Lewis

2,121 posted on 12/27/2005 4:55:44 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: RunningWolf

Evidently, they've been rather quiet since that last one.


2,122 posted on 12/27/2005 5:04:58 AM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: He Rides A White Horse
Caligula believed in more gods than you do. He'd have considered you one god removed from atheism.
2,123 posted on 12/27/2005 5:23:46 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: onja
Where are the sandstones, limestones, and shales? Is that supposed to look like the Grand Canyon?
2,124 posted on 12/27/2005 5:48:10 AM PST by VadeRetro (Liberalism is a cancer on society. Creationism is a cancer on conservatism.)
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To: RunningWolf; Havoc; VadeRetro
Yes RunningWolf, Havoc's points and posts are beyond doubt the best I've seen on this thread.....and all they muster is "dude, you're wrong", and congratulate each other on their 'superior' knowledge.

They accuse me of wanting to gun down people, etc. Far be it from the truth. I'm warning them they are headed down the wrong road, one which will inevitably lead to conflict. The current state of affairs is such that they are becoming the dictators they claim to despise so much. Their talking points are ripped right from the pages of the left wing media establishment, yet they claim to be vanguards of conservatism.

They have what one might call a narrow intelligence, they can only see what is in front of them, yet they lack an important ingredient-vision.

It is pointless to debate with such dishonest people. They pretend that people such as myself are in the minority of thinkers, when my local YMCA has more members than their Libertarian Party.

Let them continue in their way. In the end they be sitting there saying, "What just happened?"

2,125 posted on 12/27/2005 7:31:37 AM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: Havoc
Why do you presuppose they sprang from the womb fully formed?

This is the best that you have? Suggesting that energy, like biological life forms, goes through a developmental life cycle despite absolutely no similarities? This pathetic analogy is the best defense of your completely unsupported presuppositions that you have to offer?
2,126 posted on 12/27/2005 7:41:30 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio

Similarities have zero to do with it. When you don't know, you can't rule out what you don't know. Yet you want to rule out anything you don't know that doesn't support your theory. That isn't science. And that is the core point. You aren't dealing with evidences, you're dealing with assumptions in place of evidence and modelling based on assumptions. That is the base point of your position - the weakest link. And at that level, your construct is only as good as your assumptions and then only one possible option in a pool of infinite possibility. You chose a fiction you liked and adopted it. Bully for you. But that isn't science.


2,127 posted on 12/27/2005 8:05:07 AM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: Havoc
When you don't know, you can't rule out what you don't know.

But there's nothing wrong with making inferences based upon existing observations. You seem to be willing to invent any sort of conjecture not because there's evidence to suggest it, but because you need it to be true to satisfy your need to adhere to Biblical literalism, and then you invent excuses to justify putting your assumptions on the same level as rational science.

Variations in universal constants, such as lightspeed or radioactive decay, would have serious consequences in the observable natural history record of the planet that simply are not observed. The most logical and rational assumption is that such constants -- not observed to change currently -- did not change in the past. You, however, don't like the implications of a millions-of-years-old earth so you invent all manner of excuses to ignore rationality and logic.
2,128 posted on 12/27/2005 9:34:34 AM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
But there's nothing wrong with making inferences based upon existing observations

Inference or assumption is all the same thing. What you observe is one thing. Assuming what you observe has always been that way is as valid as looking at Mt St. Helens and assuming it's always looked the way it looks now. I use that as an obvious example because we know it has not. On the other hand, there are countless regions we could look at and make any number of assumptions about - any of them could be valid or non of them. Picking one and pontificating on it doesn't make it valid - it just makes that assumption the one you like.

Biblical literalism has zero to do with it. Taking the Bible seriously is rather the issue. And it isn't "Biblical" literalism many of you have a problem with.. it's language literalism you eschew - wanting to change the meaning of language to allow you to say something the language doesn't contextually support.

As for the "serious consequences" you speak of for variable rates, you assume you know what you're talking about. If you don't know the environ and how it all happened, you can't possibly speak to the impact of a variable rate. Ie, pull the other one. You're trying to tell us that wind speed is a factor in bullet travel even when the bullet travels through a vacuum as it were. Wind doesn't exist in a vacuum, therefore, it would not affect the travel of the bullet. You also don't know the rate of change if it did happen. Without knowing rate of change or environment, you sit there and say it's impossible. How big a moron do you take the planet for?! This is part of what we speak about consistently. You don't know, therefore you pontificate what you'd like to be the case in ignorance hoping everyone lets you get by with it. We're not ignoring reality, we're just ignoring your spin.

2,129 posted on 12/28/2005 3:46:02 AM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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