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Cheaper Than Mink Or Sable - Fur Coats Made From Dogs That Were Skinned Alive
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12-18-2005 | Katy Duke/Elizabeth Day

Posted on 12/17/2005 6:07:46 PM PST by blam

Cheaper than mink or sable - fur coats made from dogs that were skinned alive

By Katy Duke and Elizabeth Day
(Filed: 18/12/2005)

It looks like the must-have item in every glamorous woman's winter wardrobe: a sleek, black fur coat dripping with opulence.

But despite the seductive appearance, the coat is not mink or sable. Instead, it has been manufactured from dog fur - possibly from an animal that was drugged and skinned alive to preserve the fur's freshness.

Heather Mills-McCartney with a rug made from cats' pelts Similar coats are selling rapidly in fashion boutiques across Europe.

An undercover investigation has revealed a booming trade in dog fur coats from eastern Europe, some of which are likely to be on sale in Britain. The fur, which comes from both strays and captured pets, is often re-labelled to disguise its origins before being stitched into coats and re-dyed. This Bulgarian fur, for instance, was incorrectly passed off as "Korean Wolf".

Unlike a mink, which can cost £10,000, a top-price coat made from dog pelt may sell in markets of western Europe for around £400.

The investigation by a German television documentary crew focused on Bulgaria, where it found that stray dogs were routinely rounded up by licensed trappers and delivered to fur factories.

Anita Singh, a campaign co-ordinator for People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals in Britain, said that there were also reports of pets being snatched for their fur. "They tend to be bigger dogs like German shepherds or golden retrievers," she said. "It is important for people to realise that when they buy fur it is nearly impossible to tell whether real dog or cat has been used unless it undergoes extensive DNA testing.

"You can find dog fur in shopping centres in Britain labelled as something else. It is a disgusting industry and our advice is simply to avoid all types of fur."

It is not illegal to trade in dog and cat fur in Britain, although bans have been imposed in the United States, Sweden, Denmark, Greece, Italy, France and Australia.

The British Fur Trade Association, which represents the fur industry, said none of its members knowingly used dog fur, and it had introduced a labelling system to try to guard against its use.

Most furs - such as mink, fox, seal or rabbit - have their own classification so it is possible to see how much is imported and exported. Fur that falls under the "other fur" category, however, does not have to be listed by species and could include dog or cat fur.

Historically, the British have been unwilling to buy dog fur. In the children's book, 101 Dalmatians, written by Dodie Smith in 1948, the villainous Cruella de Vil tries to steal dalmatian puppies to make herself a unique spotted coat.

Yordanka Zrcheva, the president of the Bulgarian Society for the Protection of Animals, went undercover for a German television documentary to demonstrate the extent of the problem.

Miss Zrcheva said that the country, which is hoping to join the European Union in just over a year, produced "tens of thousands" of dog pelts to sell across Europe.

"There is a massive industry based on the systematic killing of dogs," she said. "There are dog fur factories all over Bulgaria, and they produce all sorts of items, like fur coats, leather shoes and bags made from dogs and so on."

According to Rumi Becker, a spokesman for the Doctors for Animals group which works for the protection of Bulgaria's stray dogs, the authorities are unwilling to clamp down because the industry is "big business".

In Bulgaria the average salary is around £35 a month, while a teacher makes about £80 a month and a doctor £100. One fur coat can be sold inside the country for £200 and more than double that abroad.

"It is hard to collate exact numbers but around 10,000 dogs are collected and killed in Sofia alone every year, often shipped straight to fur factories from dog pounds and animal shelters," said Dr Becker.

"The so-called fur lords who run the factories are farming the dogs on the street without having to pay any support. They don't have to feed or house them or anything except round them up and then skin them.

"I bought a black and white coat labelled Korean Wolf. I asked if it was made with street dog fur, and the vendor said it was, but that I should keep my voice down. I was pretending to be a dealer, and asked if it would be possible to have more. She told me she had 750 in a storeroom in Sofia."

Last week, the anti-fur campaigner Heather Mills McCartney urged the European Union to ban the trade in cat and dog fur, citing the example of the Czech Republic.

"Domestic cats are stolen off the streets, and we're talking about 2,000 to 3,000 just in the Czech Republic, not in the whole of Europe," she said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: alive; cats; cheaper; coats; cruelty; dogs; eu; europe; fur; made; mink; petapropaganda; sable; skinned; than
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To: calex59

"I have two words to convey my feelings about this article: BS. No one skins dogs or any other animal alive. killing an animal would not ruin the freshness of the fur, even if you let the animal hang for a day. As I said, BS."

Yup, I think this one ranks right up there with the "Banzai Kittens" hoax that was going around a couple of years ago.


41 posted on 12/17/2005 6:43:31 PM PST by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: blam
Dogs? Who gives a rip? But CATS?!

Nuke 'em.

:-)

42 posted on 12/17/2005 6:43:59 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Merry Christmas .... and Happy New Year ... you can take your seat now ...")
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To: Hack

I've seen them. At 16, they are beauties. At 30, they are bench pressing small naval vessels. At 45, they are babushkas.


43 posted on 12/17/2005 6:46:52 PM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: FairOpinion

That's who they buy the dogs from


44 posted on 12/17/2005 6:47:11 PM PST by kentj
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To: CrazyIvan

Skinning an animal alive would destroy the pelt 100% of the time. Struggling animals tend to get blood all over the pelt (bye bye, fur), and would make it impossible to make clean cuts. The more I look at this story, the more convinced I am that it's a 100% manufactured LIE. It simply doesn't hold water.


45 posted on 12/17/2005 6:48:02 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: calex59

I was just going to post this same observation but you have done it the credit it deserves - BS. "Freshness", if that were even a valid concept, would be more a function of the season the animal was in and the treatement of the pelt before it was tanned.


46 posted on 12/17/2005 6:53:33 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (The problem with being a 'big tent' Party is that the clowns are seated with the paying customers.)
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To: FairOpinion

and hundreds of millions of pre born children and....young
children who doctors or social workers determine have disabilites...too difficult for the social workers or doctors
to live with...

They should consult the Ed Gein handbook on skinning people
for fine leather goods like gloves and handbags...even lampshades...


47 posted on 12/17/2005 6:54:25 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: blam

Skinning animals alive...their pain makes a nice sacrifice to allah...


48 posted on 12/17/2005 6:55:28 PM PST by joesnuffy (A camel once bit my sister-we knew just what to do- gather large rocks & squash her-Mullet Ho'mar)
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To: blam

Spot?


49 posted on 12/17/2005 6:57:46 PM PST by woofie
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To: FairOpinion
It seems like the "skinned alive" stories all seem to be coming from the same PETA sources. Not entirely credible in my book. They've been known to produce their own animal torture videos to illustrate their case. I have no doubt China is using Dog and Cat fur, but anything coming from PETA is dubious.

Model-turned-activist HEATHER MILLS McCARTNEY is furious with Chinese officials after watching hours of video footage of dogs and cats being skinned alive for their fur.

Animal rights group People For the Ethical Treatment of Animals obtained the footage after infiltrating a Chinese dog and cat 'warehouse' this summer (05) and Mills McCartney has agreed to air the harrowing video on her website.

But Mills McCartney, who lost her leg in a motorbike accident, admits that watching the footage made her furious with Chinese officials who refuse to outlaw the "barbaric" practice - because she feels for the animal victims.

She fumes, "We watched hours of it (footage) and the dog is still alive for 20 minutes, it's still blinking and shaking and just in total shock.

"I know, from losing my leg... the endorphin and the adrenalin rushes in and you feel the pain but then you're just in absolute shock.

"It's (dog) lying there in complete shock and then they just throw it on another pile of flesh."

Mills McCartney has also exploded the myth that the Chinese eat dog flesh, despite reports to the contrary.

She adds, "The dog that they eat and have the meat from, they don't use its skin or its fur, and the dog whose skin and fur is used, they don't eat the meat. It's barbaric."

Like I'm supposed to believe that the Chinese can't figure out how to use the meat from an animal the've skinned for it's fur, or use the fur from an animal they are going to use for meat? This is not credible.

50 posted on 12/17/2005 6:59:24 PM PST by joshhiggins
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To: blam

Her peg leg was made from petroleum products.


51 posted on 12/17/2005 6:59:25 PM PST by JustAnotherOkie
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To: blam

"Skinned alive". Right. They are much easier to skin when they are clawing and biting you. Before the article even starts it's way off the BS meter.


52 posted on 12/17/2005 7:01:15 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: blam

Dog pelts being sold as wolf pelts I can believe. Pelts from strays is a maybe, the quality would be poor, but maybe portions would be suitable for hood and cuff trim. Skinning them alive while drugged is just stoopid Peta BS. Drugs cost more than bullets, clubs or throat slitting.

But the people who will believe this tripe can't think their way out of a wet paper bag and won't want the realities explained to them anyway.


53 posted on 12/17/2005 7:11:37 PM PST by Valpal1 (Crush jihadists, drive collaborators before you, hear the lamentations of their media. Allahu FUBAR!)
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To: blam

Consider the source.

EuroWeenie PETA BS.


54 posted on 12/17/2005 7:14:27 PM PST by msf92497 (Was Republican...Now just a Conservative.)
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To: joshhiggins
1. There is no way they're producing rugs of this kind with multiple pelts, all of which have identical color balance. In the photo we can see 14 pelts, but we also see as many as 5 columns and at least 4 rows, for a minumum of 20 pelts. The writer is stressing the use of pets and/or strays. To achieve this result it's not inconceivable that the makers would have to go through at least hundreds, but much more likely thousands of cats to get this result, taking into account that strays usually have diseases and wounds that would ruin their pelts. How long does it take, in terms of man-hours to scout a couple of thousand cats? A year? Two years? Less, the more scouters you have, of course, but then there's that pesky problem of paying them. Not to mention the fact that if people suffered under a rash of having their pets disappear, it could become rather dangerous for the skinners. Oops, time for the skinners to start buying weapons, and muscle.

Sable pelts would be cheaper.

2. But let's take it a step further. Let's assume that the cats are farmed, such as in an evil empire like the People's Republic of China. Once again, unless they're breeding purebloods, they have to have perhaps hundreds to thousands of cats on their site. What does it cost to feed and shelter a thousand cats? What's more, what does it cost to feed them well, immunize them, protect them from each other, and otherwise coddle them to ensure good quality pelts? A heck of a lot, I'd wager. What does it cost to pay the people to take care of them? Or if the caretakers are prisoners, what does it cost to guard them?

One HECK of a lot. Sable pelts would be way cheaper in the end.

3. Skinning alive. We've already gone over this to death. TOTAL BS. There is only one way to ensure a good pelt when skinning/tanning, and that's to kill the animal as easily as possible (to protect the pelt), drain it, carefully skin it, and then go on with the tanning process. It's a time-consuming process, and involves a cost as well:

  a. LOTS of lumber for tanning (unless the lefties are naive enough to think we would believe that people would tan the pelts one at a time).

  b. Twine for stretching the pelt and fixing it to the lumber.

  c. TIME. Tanning takes days, and for something of this scale, time is money. A lot of money. A heck of a lot of money. 20+ pelts for one rug? Give me a break.

  d. And last but not least, salt for curing the pelt (several pounds per pelt). Not cheap, and also requires storage space, which involves its own costs, like rent and manpower).

Sable pelts would be a bargain.
55 posted on 12/17/2005 7:20:48 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: calex59
http://www.animalsasia.org/

Wrong, wrong, they DO skin them alive and eat them because a 'skint alive' dog is supposed to taste better.

Doubt me? Read http://www.animalsasia.org/index.php?module=3&lg=en

And this is not the worst of it.
56 posted on 12/17/2005 7:22:04 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (In Memory of Crockett Nicolas, hit and run in the prime of his Cocker Spaniel life, 9/3/05.)
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To: Windcatcher
"Skinning an animal alive would destroy the pelt 100% of the time. Struggling animals tend to get blood all over the pelt (bye bye, fur), and would make it impossible to make clean cuts. The more I look at this story, the more convinced I am that it's a 100% manufactured LIE. It simply doesn't hold water."

Add to that the fact that it could become conscious and get loose. I would hate to think about dealing with a 100+lb dog that is somewhat irritated at this stage. Of course that's just what someone who would try this would deserve.
57 posted on 12/17/2005 7:22:32 PM PST by CrazyIvan (If you read only one book this year, read "Stolen Valor".)
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To: Viking2002

No kidding. I knew a couple who let their dog stay outside their home throughout the Upper Midwest winter, with minus 20 degree nights. It was obvious the dog just wanted inside their little hallway, but no, he never came in. And yes, they were heartless people.


58 posted on 12/17/2005 7:46:19 PM PST by sine_nomine (Every baby is a blessing from God, from the moment of conception.)
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To: martin_fierro
Its wearer was tipped off when a pack of dogs ran up and sniffed her butt.

She was reported as saying, "It's better than where the little brutes usually jam their snouts!"

59 posted on 12/17/2005 7:51:41 PM PST by Shalom Israel (Well, I got better...)
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To: FairOpinion

What can you expect from savages who eat horsemeat?


60 posted on 12/17/2005 7:52:16 PM PST by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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