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Cheaper Than Mink Or Sable - Fur Coats Made From Dogs That Were Skinned Alive
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 12-18-2005 | Katy Duke/Elizabeth Day

Posted on 12/17/2005 6:07:46 PM PST by blam

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To: Windcatcher
This is reprehensible, but I smell another political agenda coming along for the ride.

Maybe. . .but every so often. . .there is a story that does deserve the ride. . .

61 posted on 12/17/2005 7:54:56 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: Windcatcher
It may be or it may fall somewhere in between. . .but no matter the truth test here. . .it appears a 'fact' that cat and dogs are being harvested for 'fur'.

. . .and I doubt that these people. . .hunter/ gatherers of the worst sort. . .harbor any humane feelings whatsoever for these animals and so would probably kill them in the cheapest of manner. . .their pain not part of the equasion here.

They could be partially drugged; or just stunned somehow. . .but still conscious. . .

WhatEVER they do. . .it is a cruel and I hope soon, a criminal, enterprise. ..but somehow I doubt that Bulgaria cares. . .

62 posted on 12/17/2005 8:08:59 PM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: blam

Cat - the new mystery meat.


63 posted on 12/17/2005 8:14:53 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: blam

I am not a paganistic animal worshipper but this strikes me as almost evil......


64 posted on 12/17/2005 8:15:38 PM PST by cherry
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To: FairOpinion

"Where is PETA now?"

Hmmmn = now that you ask, PETA may also do this, but the Humane Society of America was cought killing dogs nad cats. Maybe they had a reason?


65 posted on 12/17/2005 8:16:56 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: blam; FairOpinion

I'm not buyin' it, not pingin' it.

blam... can't you find a nice pet story? It's Christmastime.


66 posted on 12/17/2005 8:20:58 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: HighlyOpinionated

If this is true then this only confirms that some asians are savages. Only a savage would treat a dog, man's best
friend, this way.


67 posted on 12/17/2005 8:22:21 PM PST by rahbert
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To: ZULU

"What can you expect from savages who eat horsemeat?"

You are not trying to hijack this thread with a reference to Sam Clements book titled The French and the Comanchees are you?

;-)


68 posted on 12/17/2005 8:28:52 PM PST by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon Liberty, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: blam

Cruella DeVille.


69 posted on 12/17/2005 8:58:23 PM PST by PLK
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To: HairOfTheDog
"I'm not buyin' it, not pingin' it. "

"blam... can't you find a nice pet story? It's Christmastime."

Be so kind and take me off your ping list. Thanks.

70 posted on 12/17/2005 9:00:40 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Because I didn't ping your depressing/disgusting story?

Sure... But I'd like to know why a story like this is so important to you, and why dog lovers would want me to bring it to their attention. Who needs this crap?


71 posted on 12/17/2005 9:06:04 PM PST by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/ 1,000 knives and counting!)
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To: afnamvet

My ex had a distant relative that saved the combed out fur, and yada yada yada, made into a sweater.


72 posted on 12/17/2005 9:20:51 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: blam
preserve the fur's freshness...

I'll quit wondering what the hell that means.

73 posted on 12/17/2005 9:23:00 PM PST by SwankyC (1st Bn 11th Marines Semper Fi)
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To: Calvin Locke
My ex had a distant relative that saved the combed out fur, and yada yada yada, made into a sweater.

My dog sheds enough in 2 days to make 6 stadium blankets.

74 posted on 12/17/2005 9:24:13 PM PST by afnamvet
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To: blam

This is about as bad as it gets. Skinning a domestic dog or cat alive. SICK...HORRIBLE...


75 posted on 12/17/2005 9:29:34 PM PST by shield (The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge: but fools despise wisdom and instructions.Pr 1:7)
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To: Viking2002

Peta is overblowing this issue to get moderates to hang with them. If they can convince enough people that this is a widespread practice, then their goal of outlawing furs altogether can be achieved.


76 posted on 12/17/2005 9:38:25 PM PST by flying Elvis
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To: FairOpinion; Slings and Arrows; Glenn; quantim; republicangel; Bahbah; Beaker; BADROTOFINGER; ...
Thanks for the ping. Based on the comments and the source, I'm taking the article (and the "skinned alive" angle especially) with a healthy dose of salt.


77 posted on 12/17/2005 9:43:25 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("MOO...BANG...MOOO!")
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To: flying Elvis

I forget who it was who said that the best way to tell a lie was to sandwich it between two truths. They're spinning this like there is industrial-scale cat- and dog-pelt harvesting going on. I call BS on this one. As far as I'm concerned, the industrial-ness is a hoax until someone not sympathetic to PETA proves otherwise. I have no doubt that people in China are eating cats and dogs due to lack of food (because I've met Chinese nationals who were studying here who told me that they eat anything that moves, including cats and dogs), but that isn't what the article is about -- it's about industrial-scale commercialization of dog and cat pelts. I don't buy that for one second -- it simply isn't economically viable, and wouldn't be able to persist in any (non-totalitarian) EU country. The assertion of live-skinning for commercial pelt freshness is such a steaming pile of cr*p that I can't believe they tried making it. Either they don't know anything about tanning or they're assuming that no one else does. That, plus the "recommendation" of avoiding all fur products are overreaches on their part and completely undermine the credibility of this story.


78 posted on 12/17/2005 9:46:14 PM PST by Windcatcher (Earth to libs: MARXISM DOESN'T SELL HERE. Try somewhere else.)
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To: calex59

"You can find dog fur in shopping centres in Britain labelled as something else. It is a disgusting industry and our advice is simply to avoid all types of fur."

I see you smelled the BS too. Remember, this is coming from PETA, so take it with a ton of salt. The above just shows you why they may want to spread disinformation: They want people not to buy fur period. To meet that goal, they try to scare people into thinking it's Lassie, skinned alive. I wouldn't put anything past PETA. Their credibility is so shot that I wouldn't believe anything they say unless they have some hard evidence. So far, nothing.


79 posted on 12/17/2005 9:54:22 PM PST by winner3000
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To: blam

Sorry PETAphiles, you have about as much credibility as the DNC on national security.

I'm calling BS on this one. These people will say anything to advance their agenda of destroying what they disagree with.


80 posted on 12/17/2005 9:59:33 PM PST by Dr.Zoidberg (Whats with the Marquis of Queensbury Rules bullsh*t, we fight for our very survival! Fight Dirty!)
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