Posted on 12/19/2005 4:42:21 AM PST by unionblue83
Use their systems, passports, citizenship, laws, traditions, books and media, create internal divisions among them, and inflict defeat on the kuffars [infidels], for in the current balance of power, all we need to do is to use their weaknesses as our strength." – Abul ala’, comment posted in the Al-Ansar chat room, September 2005.
Opening the first salvo in the newly launched "battle of the terrorist surveillance," the Associated Press wrote: "President Bush said Saturday he personally has authorized a secret eavesdropping program in the U.S. more than 30 times since the Sept. 11 attacks and he lashed out at those involved in publicly revealing the program." When I read this far in the report, I thought the article was about finding who in America is helping al-Qaeda. The AP added: "He said it is used only to intercept the international communications of people inside the United States who have been determined to have 'a clear link' to al-Qaeda or related terrorist organizations." This would overlook homegrown jihadists, or those who infiltrated the country years ago and aren’t making international phone calls. Moreover, well-trained terrorists would not reveal their plans on international calls; hence, the administration will likely be criticized for not spending enough resources investigating internal networks of terror, those who will probably produce the next terrorist strikes. Obviously, the government – in a full fledged state of war with al-Qaeda and its allies – should be spending all possible resources to monitor, listen to, analyze, and act against potential threats. Despite that, the intelligence establishment has asked the president to only authorize 30 monitoring of possible cases since September 11. Most analysts believe al-Qaeda has 200 cadres operating within the U.S. ....
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I gotta try and stay cool about this BS the Nazis are pulling on this one.
Getting over a heart attack and staying out of some of these things that upset me will in no doubt help my condition.
So December 2005 liberals outed national security for political gain.
This is disingenuous. The FBI would be investigating domestic terror cells and this NSA flap has nothing to do with that.
Would they? Able Danger's data-mining seemed to be working but they weren't allowed to share. I hope the FBI would be investigating. But I also don't believe that we should rule out any options in this war.
I was simply responding to the assertion in the header of this article that authorizing the taps of suspected terrorist conversations was inadequate in terms of surveilling domestic terror groups. That's not the NSA role. I'm sure the FBI and other domestic police organizations are working in that area.
Gotcha. I concur.
I suppose it will take more than an obscure chat room to convince some of our leadership; particularly the loud incoherent ones.
One can't help but wonder which "nazis" and what BS you are referring to.
I suspect it's anyone to the right of Fidel Castro...
50 USC 1802 Permits Warrantless Surveillance
Posted by angkor
On 12/19/2005 4:25:09 AM PST · 58 replies · 1,249+ views
United States Code ^ | 12/19/2005 | Self
Throughout the "illegal wiretaps" debacle of the last several days we have not heard a single citation of the actual law that is alleged to have been violated. And that's from both the accusers (Rats, the NYT, WashPost, etc.) as well as Republicans, up to and including the White House staff (e.g., Condi Rice on talking head circuit, Sunday morning, where she did not cite the law in defense of the practice). Well, the fact of the matter is that the alleged "illegal surveillance" is not illegal at all. In fact it is specifically permitted under 50 USC 1802, and...
Look. This is all about the National Socialist Democrats political agenda. The howling about evesdropping is all BS. Its legal and will continue never mind what happens.
Understand now?
The United States government should only posses powers which are specifically granted to it by the Constitution.
Many of the laws of today no longer reflect those of the founding fathers. It's not the work of evil people that bring about such change. The best of intentions and the wonders of creative interpretation are what bring them to be. My views may be a bit too conservative for the insecure people living in todays corporate republic especially in a time of war, but its the truth. These subtle changes don't really effect me directly now, but I do wonder what the United States will be like in another 200 years.
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